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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 15 Mar 91 Volume 9 : Issue 65 Today's Topics: [*] 7.0 compatibility matrix [*] GambitScheme1.51.sit.hqx [*] Great Recycle ICL8 [*] LaserChase! v1.2 [*] Voyager Startup Screen A Personal Postscript Laser Printer for MAC IIsi AppleLink Arabic, ATM and StyleWriter A suggestion about the distribution of ResEdit 2.1 BACKUP SOFTWARE Copying PC-Files via a Mac? DeskZap - new version? Falcon 1.0 compatible with Sys 6.x? HP Laserjet II with PostScript Card and a Mac Info-Mac Digest V9 #60 Info-Mac Digest V9 #61 Info-Mac Digest V9 #63 Mildly Misleading & Insulting Revisited New Aple Printers NEW RODIME DRIVERS Ohio Distinctive Software PLI 40 Turbo disk formatter utilities Postscript Queries ResEdit 2.1: getting it ResEdit 2.1 Distribution (again) shareware authors Special Gamma System 6 and System 7 on the same drive Thanks for LaserWriter Access Info Toxic Ravine 1.1 : Bug/Virus? Waterloo Script to Earth The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 08:10 EST From: RX80639%INDYLLY.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: [*] 7.0 compatibility matrix I am submitting the following file of that contains a first pass at 7.0 compatibility for PD CDEV's/INIT's and other items. The testing was done in 32-bit addressing mode on a IIfx with 7.0b4 and was looking for GROSS functionality problems. So some subtle problems on an item that is marked compatible may still be present. The Stuffit Deluxe archive contains some Excel spreadsheets and a MS Word readme file. Please contact me author with any corrections: Wayne Kauffman [Archived as /info-mac/misc/compatibility-70.hqx; 33K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 14:30:05 est From: "Marc Feeley" <feeley@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: [*] GambitScheme1.51.sit.hqx Gambit is a Scheme programming system under development at Brandeis University. Gambit runs on many M68000 based computers (such as SUN3, HP300 and NeXT). This version, for Mac+/SE/II computers, includes an interpreter (GSI), compiler (GSC) and a linker (which can be used to build standalone Macintosh applications). GSC generates very efficient code that in some cases is faster than the one produced by optimizing C compilers. Those of you that are used to MacScheme's user-interface will feel at home with GSI. The Gambit system supports the IEEE Scheme standard. Only exact arithmetic is implemented (bignums and ratnums but no flonums). The interpreter offers a minimal debugging environment. You must debinhex and then unstuff (with version Stuffit 1.6) the binhex document at the tail of this message. A short documentation file and a couple of sample programs are included. For those with ftp access, you can get Gambit (for Mac and other systems) by anonymous ftp to acorn.cs.brandeis.edu (129.64.3.8) in directory 'dist'. Marc -- feeley@cs.brandeis.edu [Archived as /info-mac/lang/gambit-scheme-151.hqx; 575K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1991 01:16 EST From: MacPhreak! <JPONS@vax.clarku.edu> Subject: [*] Great Recycle ICL8 A couple of days ago I requested some ICL8s of the recycle symbol to replace my trash can Icon. A few dats later I got this, and it's great! Needs a color mac with Sundesk or System 7.0. Enjoy Juan A. Pons INTERNET JPons@Jack.ClarkU.Edu BITNET JPons@ClarkU AOL MacPhreak [Archived as /info-mac/misc/trash-can-recycle-icl8.hqx; 9K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1991 14:45:37 +0100 From: Knut Mork <kmork@ulrik.uio.no> Subject: [*] LaserChase! v1.2 This is a strategy/action game for two players which provides a unique chal- lenge for one. Players guide two snakes (lasers, whatever) around the screen which leave a path of slime (or light rays, or they grow, or whatever). The object is to force the opponent to crash into an obstacle. [Archived as /info-mac/game/laser-chase-12.hqx; 35K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 91 13:00:18 GMT From: Michael Everson <MEVERC95%IRLEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] Voyager Startup Screen Here is a beautiful startup screen of the Voyager probe. Michael Everson [Archived as /info-mac/art/voyager.hqx; 11K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 22:17:47 CST From: Marshall Carroll <NU163467@vm1.nodak.edu> Subject: A Personal Postscript Laser Printer for MAC IIsi Hi. I'd like to get a good-quality Postscript Laser Printer for a Macintosh IIsi. Here's the details: 1) I don't need any networking capabilities. In other words, I want a Personal Postscript Laser Printer. 2) I don't need the printer to be "multicomputer compatible". In other words, as long as it works with a Macintosh IIsi, I don't care if it works with an IBM or any other kind of computer. 3) Speed is not a major concern. I'd even live with 2 pages a minute, though 4 pages a minute (or more) would be nicer. 4) I don't want a colour printer. 5) I only need one letter sized paper tray and no others. Well, I guess I could survive with a legal or envelope tray too (-: 6) It would be great if the educational discount price was under $2000. Thanks a lot for your help. Sincerely, Marsh Internet: NU163467@VM1.NODAK.EDU BITNET: NU163467@NDSUVM1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 17:09 CDT From: <JOHNSO03%UTSW.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: AppleLink Dear moderator, Please tell me if it is possible to connect with AppleLink via bitnet,internet,etc. Also,can anyone tell me where I can get a modem driver to run White Knight on a VAX connected via a Rolm phone system? Thank you Michael Johnson Johnso03@utsw.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 15:17:03 PST From: peterw@blia.sharebase.com (Peter Wisnovsky) Subject: Arabic, ATM and StyleWriter I am trying to set up a Mac Classic system with the Arabic system software and a low-cost high-quality printer. I have looked at the StyleWriter, and am rather dissappointed with its lack of speed when printing TrueType fonts. Does anyone know if the StyleWriter is faster with ATM at the wheel? I understand also that there is software to convert fonts >From Adobe type 3 to type 1, and to TrueType fonts. Is there a public domain package that will do this? The other printer I am thinking of getting is the DeskWriter: has anyone made a controlled comparison of the two? The samples of output I've seen suggest that the StyleWriter has higher quality output. Is this what other people have seen too, or could this be some artifact of the paper or ink used? Finally, does anyone familiar with the Arabic system software know if a special word-processor is required? Or will is there a public-domain script-manager compatible editor that will work? The editing will be done in Microsoft Word, which I know does not support Arabic editing: I was planning to just copy arabic excerpts from an editor into Word. I know this is a lot for one query, but I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Peter Wisnovsky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 16:47:08 EST From: yu@math.duke.edu (Yunliang Yu) Subject: A suggestion about the distribution of ResEdit 2.1 Dear Sirs; I am a regular user of your info-mac archive (about 1 year now) and I have the following suggestion about the distribution of ResEdit 2.1. Please think about it first before posting this message or whatever. First, RedEdit is a great program, many people need it. As I understood, in order to have it on sumex for people to download, you have to pay Apple Co. $100(?) to get a site license. It's difficult to ask the university to pay for this; so I thought maybe it's a good idea to ask regular users to denote some money to your site *voluntarily*. Each denotation should be at most $1. This is just my idea, I don't know if it's workable or not. Thanks. --Yu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 91 11:17:04 SST From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: BACKUP SOFTWARE Can someone point me to good backup software which will incrementally backup from a harddisk to a REO-650 600 meg erasable optical drive? Please send replies to isstth@nusvm. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 11:15:22 EST From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Copying PC-Files via a Mac? > I just got a FDHD-Update for my floppy and can now write also DOS-Disks. > So I tried to download a PC-Archive (which is a binary file) and to > transfer it to the DOS-Disk. But I can use a DOS-Disk only with File- > Exchange, and File-Exchange always makes some translation with the file, > assuming the downloaded PC-file to be a Macintosh-file. Has anybody an > idea how to make a one to one copy of a file on a Harddisk to a DOS- > disk? I've had no difficulties moving DOS binaries between a U*ix box, my Mac, and DOS machines via ftp, Kermit, and the Apple File Exchange. Several times I have download the McAfee virus software from Simtel to a U*ix box where I UUDecode it, then binary ftp the ZIP files to the Mac, UnZip them (using UnZip 1.01 for the Mac), run them through the _default_ translation in the AFE to a DOS disk, and boom, they're all set to go on a PC. I've also moved the DOS executables via binary ftp back to the U*ix box, where they are available for binary Kermit download by DOS users logging into the U*ix box via asynch lines. (If this process sounds a little crazy, it's because I've lost my PC Ethernet connection to the U*ix box temporarily, and have been using my Mac Ethernet connection in the meantime). Sometimes getting the AFE exchange to work in default mode is not as simple as one might like - I've found that I often have to deselect any extra translators so that the AFE reverts back to default mode. Binary DOS executables and compressed files usually don't confuse the AFE (since they don't look like something that can be translated), but the AFE usually assumes that a text file should be translated. In these cases you need to turn off any filters so that the file goes through unchanged. This will happen both with straightforward DOS text files _and_ UUEncoded files, since they are text as well. You'll probably have the least difficulty with the translation if you move ZIP files between the machines, since they are least likely to confuse the AFE (for both executables and text). UUTool 1.2 and UnZip 1.01 for the Mac are available in the archives: -r 134545 Nov 9 1989 ./util/unzip-101.hqx -r 27738 Jan 1 14:26 ./util/uutool-12.hqx Gregg TeHennepe ** gateh@conncoll.bitnet ** SysAdm, Connecticut College ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 91 00:49:04 PST From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca Subject: DeskZap - new version? >But the version I have (1.3a8, 1986) has a bug whereby almost any >time you are typing in a new filename (such as when creating or >renaming) it takes about 4.5 seconds to echo each character. There is a newer version that fixes that bug. I had it, but lost it in the crash of 1990 (my Miniscribe 380 died then - luckily under warranty). You can probably find it on Genie, but hopefully someone will upload it to Sumex. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 21:53:30 cst From: charles@calshp.cals.wisc.edu Subject: Falcon 1.0 compatible with Sys 6.x? Is Falcon 1.0 (for Plus and SE, 87' version) compatible with Sys 6.5 ? Or does it require lower version of system? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 10:28:59 EDT From: "J. Feustle" <FAC0395%UOFT01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: HP Laserjet II with PostScript Card and a Mac Hi. Has anyone successfully connected a Laserjet II with either an Adobe or HP PostScript card in it to a Mac? If so, could you please tell me what hardware and software are needed? I have an HP that I'd like to get more use from, particularly with my IIcx. Card? I mean cartridge. Many thanks. J. Feustle FAC0395@UOFT01.BITNET Acknowledge-To: <FAC0395@UOFT01> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 10:23:39 CST From: hirchert@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Kurt Hirchert) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #60 In article <9103110532.AA26614@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> you write: >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 91 16:00 EDT >From: <LONSTERE8185%SNYONEVA@ricevm1.rice.edu> >Subject: TERMINAL EMULATOR... > >Hi Netters! >The questions I have was suggested and I felt that this was the place to look! >Is there a program that allows a Macintosh to emulate a Tektronix or Vectrix >terminal? The idea is to tie directly into the VAX as a graphics terminal and >use its power for complex graphics rather than the limited resources of our >Macs. Anyone heard of this or have any ideas? Depending on the particular model of Tektronix terminal you want many (perhaps even most) of them do. In particular, I know that Versaterm does 401x emulation and Versaterm Pro does higher models. I'm certain there are others, but Versaterm is the program I use, I could check its features more conveniently. If you're looking for TCP/IP connections rather than a serial line, NCSA Telnet does 401x emulation and a subset of the features from higher models. -- Kurt W. Hirchert hirchert@ncsa.uiuc.edu National Center for Supercomputing Applications ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 19:31 GMT From: SCCS6075%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #61 Hello all, I'm about to ask a VERY basic question about Xwindows on the apple 2fx, so all you gurus can skip on to the next message. My query is How do you call all the wonderful Xwindows routines from your C program ? I hope this query makes some sense to some one out there. It might be of use to know I'm using A/UX on the 2fx, this is where I write my C programs, so where do the Xwindows calls fit in ? thanks in advance David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 10:46 MST From: Steve <SLOUIE@ccit.arizona.edu> Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #63 To Kee Nethery with the exceptionally large stack (16000 cards). When you issued the command to unmark all cards, I don't know if HyperCard automatically assumes a lockmessages and lockrecent mode. That is, as it goes through card by card if you don't have the lockmessages and lockrecent set to true condition, perhaps it's also executing some sort of opencard handler. Just a thought. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 17:34 -0600 From: Alan Keahey <umkeahey@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Subject: Mildly Misleading & Insulting Revisited OK, no problem, here is the same message again... Is the complainant serious? If so, I must express my astonishment that anyone would let a 14K freeware hack become a stimulus for a 1000-byte, thinly-veneered tirade, such as he has seen fit to disseminate. I can appreciate that the "advertisement" in question could be open to misinterpretation (anything can be misinterpreted). However, the plaintiff himself admits that said "advertisement" only IMPLIES that Cubist will work on any small-screen Mac, in much the same way as his quoting of "advertisement" IMPLIES that I have something to gain >From this program. At no point have I made any guarantee that this program will work on ANY machine (a message which is stated quite clearly on the title screen). I would also point out that eliminating all programs from these archives which do not run flawlessly on the machines for which they are intended would come as a serious blow to the Macintosh community. Not even Microsoft (or perhaps, especially not even Microsoft) can live up to those kinds of standards. Further, the complainant states that Cubist has been "designed *not* to work with small Macs that have been enhanced with a large display"; this statement is at best inacurate and at worst slanderous. It is easily shown from the source code that Cubist has in fact been designed to not run on ANY large screen, the implication that a special case has been foreseen and accounted for vis-a-vis the large-screen-on-a- small-Mac is rejected out of hand. As a final note I would point out that in the future Jon's interests might be better served if he were to adopt a somewhat less "uptight" posture. As it happens, I neglected to consider the possibility of his configuration occuring. Had he dropped me a friendly note telling me of his difficulties, I would have been more than happy to make the necessary changes to the program and provide him with a new version; indeed, I would have been grateful to receive the "user input". Under these circumstances, however, I must confess to being somewhat reluctant to modify Cubist merely to accomodate an user of his particular ilk. Sincerely, Alan Keahey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1991 17:30:08 EST From: IOCONNOR@sunrise.acs.syr.edu Subject: New Aple Printers Netters, The only info I have on the new Apple printers I got from the Tuesday edition, 12 Mar 1991, of the New York Times. They had a write up on both machines. The Stylewriter does sound like the deskwriter, but it sounds so much slower. The article quotes 2 minutes for some docs. The DeskWriter isn't that slow. I agree that prices will probably fall for the HP and the Stylewriter. Up to now, HP had no competition for its Deskwriter, certainly not the Imagewriter. Kieran O'Connor Kep on Mac'in! IOCONNOR@SUNRISE (bitnet) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 91 11:19:18 SST From: ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu Subject: NEW RODIME DRIVERS This is a response to my earlier question on new Rodime Drivers. There are two new drivers for the Cobra drives as well as for the Rodime drives. Different brand names from the same company. Unfortunately, I was told that Rodime does not want its software to be distributed electronically for whatever reasons, so those who want to upgrade can simply send Rodime your floppies and the folks there will copy the drivers for you. Don't forget to put your return address and postage, and send in your original disks. Thanks to all who replied. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 11:02:02 CST From: Randy Bradley <MARC003@unlvm> Subject: Ohio Distinctive Software Does anybody know of "Ohio Distinctive Software" company? A friend of mine got an offer for some programs: 1) Executive Diet Helper 2) Menu Planner 3) Weight Loss Planner as a "special promotion offer" to increase public awareness. Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 08:28 EDT From: AL BEST <BEST@ruby.vcu.edu> Subject: PLI 40 Turbo disk formatter utilities I have a PLI Infinity 40 Turbo hard disk (removable) with (apparently) old software (v 1.2). I've got one platter that refuses to format. Does anyone know how to get hold of: PLI Formatter 3.0 REMVINIT 1.4 ? THanks, Al Best, Medical College of Virginia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 19:53:38 GMT From: mbrown%9296.span@sdsc.edu Subject: Postscript Queries I need to take some generic postscript (generated by a 3D plotting program on an AMDAHL) and incorporate it into a Word file. Is there any program that I can read this postscript file into and then save it in encapsulated so I can load it into Word? I can send-ps the file to a NTX and it has no problems. Any help would be appreciated and summarized for the net. Mike Brown - reply to: mbrown@um.cc.umich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 16:02:06 CST From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu> Subject: ResEdit 2.1: getting it I took Alexander Falk's advice and bought Alley&Strange. Like him I think it's an excellent book, and it comes with ResEdit 2.1 on a disk. However, as has recently emerged, 2.1 has bugs, and is being fixed. How do those who bought the book get the fixes if they don't have access to a service that posts them? If a license to post ResEdit costs $100 would the Moderators be willing to acquire one if they were given $100? Are there another 99 readers out there like me who'd be happy to send them a dollar for the convenience of being able to download ResEdit upgrades from sumex? Graeme Forbes What the heck. Make it 19 and $5 respectively! [If it was only a matter of getting $100 from somewhere, that's one thing. But from what I remember when I tried to find out about getting Resedit here, one extra requirement was that we would need to get a list of the people who downloaded it. Since we use anonymous ftp, there is no easy way that I know of to get such a list. The commercial services apparently keep records of this kind. That was a while ago, and things could have changed (or I could be wrong), but it presents another possible difficulty. -Bill] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1991 08:52:35 PST From: Rex Sanders <sanders@parc.xerox.com> Subject: ResEdit 2.1 Distribution (again) > d) If you want to get ResEdit 2.1 as fast as possible and don't > have access to commercial services like America Online or GEnie, > the easiest way to get ResEdit is to go to your local bookstore > and get yourself a copy of "ResEdit Complete" by Peter Alley and > Carolyn Strange (Addison-Wesley, 1990), which includes a disk > with ResEdit 2.1 on it. It is also a great book about ResEdit and > sells for only $29.95. > e) If you want ResEdit 2.1 soon, cheaper, and with a book "for the rest of us", BMUG sells "Zen and the Art of Resource Editing". -- Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, Mar 14, 1991 1:37:07 PM From: Adam Engst <ace%tidbits.UUCP@theory.tn.cornell.edu> Subject: shareware authors shareware authors I'd like to nominate Dave Warker, who created Remember?, for shareware author fame. He's been extremely responsive (I'd estimate two days between reporting a bug and getting a fix back via email on America Online) and very helpful. The shareware fee for Remember? is well worth it. Adam Engst, TidBITS Editor ------------------------------ Date: Thu 14 Mar 91 11:17:43-EST From: Carl Lizza <LIZZA@a.isi.edu> Subject: Special Gamma Can anyone explain the value of the "Use Special Gamma" options for the MacII Hi-Res Video Card. I cannot find any documentation anywhere and received none with the card...Thanx --Carl ------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 16:30:09 PST From: ntg!dplatt@apple.com (Dave Platt) Subject: System 6 and System 7 on the same drive Also, System 7 seems to have the need to be in the root (top level, first to mount) partition of a hard partitioned drive. This was not my experience. I was able to set up System 7 on the second partition on a Rodime hard drive that had been formatted with the Cobra installer. To boot 7.0, I would simply "un-bless" the System folder on my first (6.0.7) partition. The machine would start up, try to boot from the first partition, reset itself, and then boot from the second partition... no problem at all. Many drive-formatting packages (including the older Rodime installer) aren't able to set up the second and subsequent partitions as bootable volumes. I'm not certain why this is. If your drive has been formatted using one such utility, then your bootable partition _must_ be the first regardless of whether you're using System 6.0.x or System 7.0x AND, System 7's Virtual Memory will only work on drives formatted with Apple's HDSC Setup, which, stupidly enough, does not allow more than one Mac partition... Once again, this was not my experience. I had no difficulty running VM on a Rodime disk under System 7.0b2. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 10:52:18 EST From: Mark Edward Toomey <MTOOMEY@uga.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Thanks for LaserWriter Access Info Thanks to all the folks providing info as to LaserWriter access restriction on an AppleTalk net. The LaserWriter Lockout from Sumex seems to fit the ticket nicely and when we get on the broadband using Cayman's Gatorbox I've been told I'll have a sufficiently high degree of access control to various resources on the net. * Mark Edward Toomey Internet: mtoomey@uga.cc.uga.edu * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 13:25:33 CST From: Your friendly neighbourhood Lab GTA <chai@hawk.cs.ukans.edu> Subject: Toxic Ravine 1.1 : Bug/Virus? Dear Netters, I recently downloaded Toxic Ravine from sumex/info-mac/game and ran it on my Gatekeepter-protected Mac IIx. Gatekeeper then vetoes a "Res(Other) against System"!!! I can't think of a reason why a Game would want to modify system, so I am not willing to give it permissions... does anyone know what is going on here? I did try it on a RAMdisk-based machine with no HD and it *seem*ed to run fine... Ian Chai chai@cs.ukans.edu 2fntnougat@ukanvax.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 18:12:57 +0200 From: "David L. Hirschberg" <BNHIRSCH%WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Waterloo Script to Earth Dear Nettters, I have yet another question. Does anyone know of a program that can translate documents written in Waterloo script into something that can be read with in a Macintosh word processor? Even if there is something out there that would strip out all the special codes and just leave a text file, hours could be saved manually deleting all those characters. David Hirschberg ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************