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Info-Mac Digest Sat, 27 Apr 91 Volume 9 : Issue 94 Today's Topics: Archie ATARI EMULATION OF THE MAC PLUS AUDIO ROUTINES Classic and Modem Problem Fractal software wanted. Help on E-Mail Retrieval of Info-Mac Archive Help with SendPS and lwsrv HP LASERJET IIP Hypercard Virus icl8 and System 7.0 lookin' for an da like SETSOUND but for screen colors Mac Classic RAM options Mac implementations of uucp Multi-platform Flexible Benefits Software PICT/PICT2/TIFF file format? Portable vs. Laptop Problems with MacX request: NetHack System 7.0 and IIfx Terminal 2.1 ? TokenRing/NetWare/Mac II's TrueType Observations Versacad 2.1.1 template (and the lack thereof) The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 10:54:35 EDT From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil> Subject: Archie >FROM > >I know this was mentioned earlier this year, but could someone tell me how >to connect to the Archie archives? I can't remember or seem to find the >address. There was also some mention about NOT ftp'ing to this site. If >anyone would be kind enough to reply, I'd appreciate it. > Brandon, Type the following: telnet quiche.cs.mcgill.ca -or- telnet 132.206.2.3 Login as 'archie'. Follow the instructions... >Brandon Hopper > >Bitnet: vzhnw@ttuvm1 >Internet:vzhnw@ttuvm1.ttu.edu > tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil ------------------------------ Date: 22 APR 91 22:03:13 CDT From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: ATARI EMULATION OF THE MAC PLUS Francois Bonnafy <francois@LOIRE.EDRC.CMU.EDU> requests information on the Atari ST's ability to emulate a Macintosh. ~ Using 128K Mac ROMs, the Spectre GCR Macintosh Plus emulator does a rather decent job. Simple to use, it plugs into the Atari ST's cartridge port and and does just about everything that the Mac Plus does. The ST is a slightly faster box than the Plus so runs Mac software about 10% faster than a stock Plus. ~ The emulator reads and writes standard Mac 400K MFS disks and Mac 800K HFS disks. 1.44 meg floppy support is not supported yet. ~ Other niceties include sound support but the 6.0.7 SoundManager is not supported. However, SoundMaster works--it's just that the user won't get "game" sounds with 6.0.7. Consequently, most Atari users run their emulator with 6.0.5. ~ Printer support is currently limited to IBMish Centronics Parallel printing with some PostScript support which I'm not sure of since I don't have a PostScript printer. However, Orange Micro printer drivers and so forth work perfectly. ATM and TrueType works perfectly. Atari users have been saving files as PostScript files and going to the Atari side, printing with the popular PostScript Atari emulators. ~ Hard Drive support is quite transparent with a single mechanism able to be split into Mac format and MS DOS/Atari ST format. While on the ST side, the Atari cannot see the Mac partitions and while on the Mac side, the "Mac" cannot see the Atari ST partitions. ~ Hard partitions are ironically easier to create than they are on the real Mac. For example, SilverLining is not required. ~ SyQuest Mac cartridges are perfectly happy with the emulator. ~ Commerical programs work perfectly. By commerical, I mean PageMaker, HyperCard 2.0, FullWrite, Excel, Microphone II, etc. ~ Games are another beast, though. If there is a slight degree of copy protection, then the Spectre will choke since it doesn't contain Mac hardware, other than the 128k ROM chips. ~ Monitor expansion is quite good and getting better. Two paged monitors are popular and interestingly, portrait monitors have been slow in arriving. Monitor speed with the Spectre is quick and screen refresh is very fast and faster than a real Mac Plus. Standard screen resolution is 640 * 400. The Atari ST accepts standard multisync monitors, so monitors such as the paperwhite NEC GS2A works perfectly. ~ Color support does not exist as far as color Macs are concerned. No 256K ROM chip use is planned. ~ As with an other emulator, the Spectre GCR on the Atari ST is not meant to replace the Mac Plus, but is meant to be an extension to the ST. Atari 1040STe's can be had for $350.00, emulator with ROMs for about $400.00. Therefore, it can be seen that the price is already approaching that of a Classic, especially if the cost of a monitor is thrown in. Hence the statement that the emulator is meant to merely provide an extension to the Atari ST. ~ So, I guess in summary: color Mac support is not there, copy protected games do not work. That's it. PostScript support is weak, but ATM/TrueType works perfectly. There are no other real negatives. ~ Hope this helps. Larry Rymal <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET> | ATARI ST USERS OF EAST TEXAS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 91 07:15:15 SST From: ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu Subject: AUDIO ROUTINES Hello from Singapore again. Many months I posted my excitement concerning Ed Bogas' Super Studio Session technology. This is sort of a repost with new stuff. Games such as Tetris, Faces, Weltris, Vette!, and the Carmen series for the Mac licensed Ed Bogas' technology to provide a low-cost and easy to create (plus low-memory and low-cpu usage) background sound system for their games. I tried writing to Ed Bogas but so far no reply. I think such a wonderful piece of work should be make generally available to programmers as a programming library. The other games with their own background music stuff are Mission Starlight and Sky Shadow from Cassday and Greene, which again do not license out this technology. The closest thing is a combination of delving into MIDI and using Sound Exciter. This is a memory resident program that plays 8 digitized voice MIDI files in the background. I suspect heavy collaboration from Ed Bogas. But this is not a good solution because it requires that user purchase the init (about US$45), plus it has to run under MFinder. Folks, the MSDOS people are laughing at us right now because their Sound Blaster cards (and relatively cheap Roland cards) simply blow away our Mac sound abilities. All comments on this topic are welcome. Please email to isstth@nusvm and I will summarize. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Apr 91 20:16 GMT From: KURAS@applelink.apple.com (Kuras, Patrick) Subject: Classic and Modem Problem >Why does my Kyocera KM 1200S Full Duplex Direct modem work fine >with a 512KE, but not at all with my new Classic? When I hook up >the modem to the Classic and turn on the modem, the TM light >(which is always lit when it's connected to the 512KE) turns on, >then off in half a second. No terminal emulation program then >can work with it on the Classic, so it seems like a hardware >issue. Both serial ports on the Classic work perfectly with my >printer. Do I need to reset dipswitches on the Kyocera (if so, >which ones? - I've lost the manual) - or buy another modem? >Thanks, in advance, for any advice. > -Roland Moore (moore@qal.berkeley.edu) This is probably because the GPi pin (pin 7, the receive/transmit clock input) is not connected on the Classic's serial ports. This is the same as on a Mac Plus. I'm not sure why your modem is looking for this, but you may be able to get it to work with a configuration change on the modem. Good luck. pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 16:11:30 EST From: John A Romanski <V4080%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Fractal software wanted. I have a talk to give about fractals next Tuesday and I want some whiz-bang pictures, programs, demos, anything that has anything to do with fractional dimensions. I want to impress some of my fellow students, so no bells or whistles shall be held back. I know there's something at the sumex info-mac archives but I don't know where and I am interested in any other archival locations as well. Thanks, John Romanski Temple University [Check out MandelZot. It even animates the fractals. -- Jon] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 12:03:25 PDT From: Byung-Sun Choung <hplabs!sc%cns.SanDiego.NCR.COM@labrea.stanford.edu> Subject: Help on E-Mail Retrieval of Info-Mac Archive Is there any way of retrieving files from the Info-Mac archive thorugh e-mail? I do not have direct Internet access so I CAN NOT do FTP. I would appriciate you help. Thank you. Sunny Choung ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 18:23:00 EDT From: rocket!cory@uunet.uu.net (Cory Myers) Subject: Help with SendPS and lwsrv I am trying to get SendPS (version 2.22) to talk to a CAP LaserWriter server (lwsrv). The postscript file sends just fine but then prints out as if I had done an "lpr" of a postscript file. The problem seems to be that the file sent by SendPS does not begin with %! and the Unix printing software assumes that if it gets an input without this prefix then it should think it is a text file and print it. I can work around the problem by capturing the postscript file on the Unix machine after it has been sent by SendPS and editing it to have a %! prefix. DOes anyone have a better solution? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 91 07:12:16 SST From: ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu Subject: HP LASERJET IIP Hello from Singapore. A HP IIP recently came into my possesion. I want to use it with my Classic and my (God Forbid) MSDOS PC. I am planning to add postscript to it. What else must I do for the connection? Can both systems be hooked to the IIP at the same time? Is it auto-switching? Please email to isstth@nusvm and I will summarize. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 15:24:06 EDT From: <v4080%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Hypercard Virus I have heard that Disinfectant will not be updated for the HC Virus, which was written up in April 16's MacWeek like this: The new HyperCard virus, consisting of just a few lines of HyperTalk code, is the Mac's first musical infection. If a corrupted stack is launched on Nov. 11, 1991, the virus will produce three effects in sequence. First it sends the message "What are you doing?" across the screen, then it plays "Muss i Denn" a German song popularized by Elvis in the 1950's. Then it will play "From the Blue Mountain" another German song. John A Romanski Apple Student Representative Temple University ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 09:54:29 -0700 From: kretchma@hac2arpa.hac.com (Scott Kretchmar) Subject: icl8 and System 7.0 As I understand it System 7 is going to incorporate icl8s (color icons) into itself eliminating the need for such things as SunDesk or IconColorizer. I still like to have the color icons I created or collected the past couple of months to be used. Does anybody know if SunDesk or IconColorizer still work under 7.0??? and if not is there an easier way to put the color icon resources into every program short of hunting through my icon collection and finding the right (ICN#/icl8) pair, pasting it into the Application and renumbering the resource so that it mathces the BNDL in ResEdit? Sounds kind of tedious........... Reply to: gecko%spl0@hac2arpa.hac.com NOT to the Sender ID of this letter please...(it's not my account) Thxs.. [The new MacUser claims that you can paste your own icl8 into the GetInfo box and change the icon that way. -- Jon] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 02:02 EST From: THE GOAT SLAYER <G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu> Subject: lookin' for an da like SETSOUND but for screen colors Hi there.... I was just wondering if there was such a DA, or if anybody would be willing to write a DA that would let the user change the number of colors displayed on a MAC LC/2 without going into the control panel. The DA SETSOUND does this for the speaker volume, making it a much easier task than to access the control panel each time. Some programs that I have require the color setting to be set to 16 COLORS, when the default is 256 COLORS. If anybody can help, please let me know. Thanks in advance G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu [Check out Switch-a-Roo and DepthGauge. I use them both! -- Jon] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 10:36:38 EST From: Pete Tamas <V5296E%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Mac Classic RAM options I heard that the Mac Classic w/ 1 meg RAM has the RAM soldered on. Does this limit the maximum of RAM we can put in a classic? Can 4 meg SIMMs be put into a Classic. Can 4 meg SIMMs be put in a Mac Plus? What is the max amount of RAM for a classic? Thanks, Pete Acknowledge-To: <V5296E@TEMPLEVM> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 11:10:34 EDT From: chap@art-sy.detroit.mi.us (j chapman flack) Subject: Mac implementations of uucp Hi! I'm looking for uucp and mail (and possibly news, but that's gravy) implementations for Macintosh. I understand there's a commercial package called uAccess ($$$), but also an old Mac port of `uupc' running around, and perhaps others. I'm searching on behalf of several Mac-owning friends, who by and large do not own development software, so binaries would be a plus. If I could snail-mail someone a Mac diskette and return envelope, that would be ideal, since I've yet to master the arcane steps required to transfer a binary to a Mac (that's not too bad--I know a guy with a Daynafile), then convince the Mac that it *is* a binary (the tough part) and make it go. I guess if someone could explain that procedure easily, emailed binaries would be ok. ...I understand the Mac version of `uupc' included a Macbinary <--> native Mac file structure converter, which would make such transfers easy once someone had uupc, but there's a chicken/egg problem at this point. Any information anyone can offer will be warmly welcomed. Thanks for the help! -Chap Flack chap@art-sy.detroit.mi.us (313)554-3703/110 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 09:43:38 EST From: Dean Williams <DJW%UVMADMIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Multi-platform Flexible Benefits Software The University of Vermont is planning to implement a full blown LAN based Flexible Benefits system in November of this year. This system must include: 1) Cafeteria style benefits (sect. 125> 2> COBRA administration 3> Retirement annuity modeling 4> Flexible spending account administration and must interface with our mainframe and other systems across campus. Concurrently, I am evaluating software for Applicant Tracking. We are currently in the process of installing Information Associates Human Resource System (HRS) on our mainframe. The system does not adequately address flexible benefits or applicant tracking. Both of these functions will be performed on a local area network. Information Associates offers a Flex package that runs on a LAN but it is quite deficient in many ways. I have looked at several packages and the range of quality and price varies greatly as does the technology. Vendor consulting is often a part of the package purchase and I would recommend it based on my findings so far. I am interested specifically in a functionally complete SQL based package with a reasonable price tag. We also need to address connectivity to the system from multiple platforms. The application should run on Macintosh and DOS/Windows systems (at the very least), sharing a common database. Users should see substantially the same user interface in all environments. We very much want to avoid applications that require one specific operating system, and we strongly prefer a graphical user interface over a character-based interface. Are any other Universities/Colleges running any LAN-based packages for the forementioned functions? I would be most interested in any information or experience anyone has relating to this topic. I think we will see more and more use of emerging technologies and software to solve our needs, save money, and save time! Thanks for your time.. please respond to the list or directly to me. Chris Walker CAW@UVMADMIN Analyst/Programmer Administrative Information Systems University of Vermont (802) 656-1184 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 12:13 ??? From: Absolut Swedish Quality <JPNILSSON%AMHERST.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu> Subject: PICT/PICT2/TIFF file format? Path: amh!jpnilsson >From: jpnilsson@amherst.bitnet Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest Subject: PICT/PICT2/TIFF file format? Message-ID: <12909.281424af@amherst.bitnet> Date: 23 Apr 91 12:12:31 GMT Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA. News-Moderator: Approval required for posting to comp.sys.mac.digest Lines: 10 Could anyone describe the PICT, PIC2 or TIFF formats on the MAC. I am usually not Mac programmer but we have a FX graphics lab here and I would like to transfer a digitized image to my computer and there use it in my program. To transfer it is no problem I just don't know the format of the these Mac files. Which one is best to use? I want the data in as raw format as possible, preferably in bitplanes (Many if possible that represent the grayscales) Please anwer to JPNILSSON@AMHERST Thank you, Jonas Nilsson ------------------------------ Date: 23 Apr 91 20:15 GMT From: KURAS@applelink.apple.com (Kuras, Patrick) Subject: Portable vs. Laptop >Hello: Would someone please explain the difference between a laptop and >a portable? I always thought they were the same. Thanks in advance. According to most in the industry, a portable computer is one which has essentially all the functionality of a desktop computer, but is packaged in a self-contained case and is usually battery-powered. Portables usually weigh in >From 12-20 pounds. The Mac Portable fits quite nicely into this definition. The term "laptop" is usually applied to a leightweight (7-12 pounds) battery-powered computer which lacks some of the functionality of a desktop computer. Functions that are typically eliminated are disk drives (e.g. no floppy or no HD), expansion slots, networking capability, or processing power. The terms "transportable" (heavy, AC powered, all in one desktop) and "notebook" (very small, lightweight but limited power and functionality) round out the vocabulary of portable computing. pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 17:31:20 +0100 From: reinder@neuretp.biol.ruu.nl Subject: Problems with MacX QUESTION: We are currently trying to install MacX 1.0.1 on a Macintosh and it does not quite work: Configuration: Macintosh IIsi Apple Ethernet Card System 6.07 with some INIT's (SuitCase, On Cue, Public Folder, Broadcast) Communications Toolbox 1.0 installed MacTCP 1.0.1a2 MacTCP was configured so as to make the use of a special MacTCP version of Telnet 2.3 possible. When MacX was started it complained that there were no connection tools for the selected connection type. After some twiddling with the Control Panel settings (we changed the MacTCP settings from 'Ethernet' to 'Ethertalk' we got MacX so far to acknowledge the existence of the MacTCP Tool in the Communications folder. Now we can launch MacX without any problems, but when we try to execute a command on a remote machine the command seems to timeout in 10 seconds, after which the error message: The remote command 'xclock' could not be executed via the tool 'MacTCP tool'. Creation of the remote command stream failed. The connection came up halfway and then failed. Acoording to Apple's documentation this error message is to be explained as: Sorry, I ran out of memory due to this request. (see page 118 in the 'MacX User's Guide'), so I increased MacX's partition to 3000K and checked how many memory it actually used. This appeared to be approximately 1500K. ANSWER: That's what I am asking for now. Hints are welcome, too. Reinder Verlinde ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 16:49:38 -0700 From: John Doug Reynolds <jdr@racer.physics.ucsb.edu> Subject: request: NetHack I'm looking for NetHack, and it seems to have been removed from INFO-MAC/GAME. Could someone please mail it to me? Thanks. Doug Reynolds Internet: jdr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (preferred address) Bitnet: jdr@voodoo.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1991 12:49 CDT From: EWINGRA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu Subject: System 7.0 and IIfx A Mac IIfx with 16 megabit SIMMs can indeed address 128 megabytes of main memory. Such SIMMs exist, but the 16 megabit chips do not. Instead, Newer Technologies fashions a large SIMM with 4 banks of 4 megabit chips to do the same thing, and it works. They even had an example working at the last MacWorld in a Mac IIci using Connectix's Optima 32 software, since System 7 couldn't be shown at the show. But System 7 would be able to use all of it, no problem. Such SIMMs at last check cost about $2000 apiece. A have a friend who ordered 4 megabit SIMMs for his IIfx from the Chip merchant and is quite happy with them. He'll be even happier when he switches to System 7 full time. --Rick Ewing Vanderbilt University ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 23:57:26 EDT From: 93ajm@cc.williams.edu (Andrew Mauer) Subject: Terminal 2.1 ? I am looking for the *sources* for a terminal program called Terminal 2.1 (or newer) written by Erny Tontlinger. I was released in December 1990, I believe. Any help would be appreciated. Please E-mail replies to me or just submit the sources to Info-Mac Andrew Mauer 93ajm@cc.williams.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 19:51:28 -0400 From: George Conant <geconant@eng.xyplex.com> Subject: TokenRing/NetWare/Mac II's Mark Cole sent a message inquiring about token ring cards for the Mac. h-three Systems in Research Triangle Park, NC has such a product, I believe. You can reach them at h3info@uunet.uu.net or by phone at 919-549-9868. I don't have any connection with them but have met them. They seem like good folks. George ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 06:57:46 PDT From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca Subject: TrueType Observations As far as I can tell, there is no need to use the Installer to install TrueType. Dragging the TrueType init into the System folder and installing the fonts with Font/DA Mover 4.1 seems to be all that is necessary. If anybody knows differently, please let us know. Although only the basic four LaserWriter font families are included in the original release, it is generally believed that Apple will provide the full LaserWriter Plus family with the release of System 7.0. Apparently, it will be left to others to provide TrueType versions of standard System fonts such as Chicago. I thought it strange that there is no italic or bold italic versions of Helvetica and Courier, but Troy Gaul of Drake University offered this explanation: >You don't need any italic and bold italic versions for those two >typefaces. The reason is that these are two fonts that use >'obliques' as their italic versions. This means that the italic is >simply a slanted version of the normal styles. I believe TrueType, >for these, simply has a code that tells the INIT that this is the >case and tells it what angle to oblique it to, and the computer then >takes the outline at this slant and makes it. > >To see that this is the case, take a bitmap font that you don't have >an oblique for (like Geneva or New York) and select italic. Put >this beside italic TrueType Helvetica. You will see that the bitmap >is slanted at a greater angle (the _only_ angle that bitmaps will be >slanted to). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 13:53 CDT From: LAMB4784@iscsvax.uni.edu Subject: Versacad 2.1.1 template (and the lack thereof) Howdy, folks! We run Versacad 2.1.1 on our Mac II's in our Industrial Technology Dept. We bought Kurta 11 x 8.5" ADB tablets a couple of years ago and have yet to hook them up (so what's new?). Being a dilligent Mac stud, I have taken it upon myself to get the Kurta pads up and running with Versacad. When I contacted Kurta to see if I could get a Versacad template, they told me two things; they don't make their own templates anymore, and the company they farm the templates out to doesn't support Versacad (ugh!!). They were, however, quite nice about it and volunteered to send me the new ADB driver software which allows me to make my own template. The problem is I have never seen a template for Versacad on the Mac. I have an IBM version, but it is of little help. If someone would be so kind as to email me here at UNI as to how I can get ahold of a Versacad template, I will be forever grateful!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon Apr 22 19:12:38 1991 From: Dale Southard <ds4a@dalton.acc.virginia.edu> To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Info-Mac Digest V9 #92 Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest In-Reply-To: <9104212131.AA06211@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Organization: University of Virginia Cc: >From: hoepfner@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patrick Hoepfner) >Subject: Sam Virus Update > >[stuff deleted] > >>Drew -- I'm a little hazy about exactly where this virus grafts itself into a >>stack, but I'm under the impression that it attacks an area that SAM simply >>is not coded to check or deal with, so its a basic lack of functionality. > >This HC virus lives in the DATA fork and until now the data fork of files >was thought to be immune (or at least no one have found a data virus before). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wasn't the Dukakis HC virus a "data virus"? It was spread in a manner that sounds simular to how the "new" HC virus works. In theory, it should be fairly easy to detect such viruses -- a modification of the script used to eliminate the Duke virus should function nicely. I wouldn't think that it would be economical to modify the current crop of virus detectors to look for them -- there are better things to do. At any rate, I would doubt that a virus written in HyperTalk could be more that just an annoyance -- it can, after all, only infect other stacks. But the virus-producing scum have suprised us before. Perhaps the scum are getting ready for the '92 election (maybe even with a Republican Virus, or is that redundant? :-) ) -- --> --> Dale UVa (ds4a@virginia.edu) ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************