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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 8 May 91 Volume 9 : Issue 104 Today's Topics: [*] Assault 2.0 [*] ChangeArrow1.1 -> 1.2 [*] Genoa & TechPhonetic fonts [*] Strike Jets 6.07 and Omnipage incompatabilities AOL/CompuServe Request Before you install system 7.0 DeskWriter et al. c/o Karl Pottie Font Problem INTERNET/BITNET e-mail to GEnie (2 msgs) LANWORKS Laserwriter page size & simple tricks MAC/IIGS Networking MacroMind Director Scripts Missing address NuVista or NuVista+ users oztex figures Possible PRAM Problem Prospective new moderators Reading AU files (& GIFs) Shared file usage statistics ? Sigma Designs DoubleUp Compression board The Mac internal synthezisers Token ring and ethernet Transputer Development Systems Truetype INIT crashes IIsi What is this virus? Where can I find... The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 15:50:33 EDT From: kenh@eclectic.com (Ken Hancock) Subject: [*] Assault 2.0 Enclosed is the latest version of Assault, a WW II strategy game. Forwarded from Bob Nordling, Project GAMER. Assault 2.0 - Major upgrade of Brad Sander's wargame, now with docs, help menu, some color support, and compatibility with System 4.1 - 7.0 Assault 2.0, Compact Pro document. Enjoy! -- Ken Hancock | INTERNET: kenh@eclectic.com [Archived as /info-mac/game/assault-20.hqx; 264K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 12:54:25 BST From: mattt@cs.umu.se Subject: [*] ChangeArrow1.1 -> 1.2 This is ChangeArrow 1.2, a update of ChangeArrow 1.1. The difference is: 1) The startUpIcon can now be turned off. 2) The cursor changes directly. No need to reboot anymore! Happy Macing! Tommy Tornqvist, University of Umea, Sweden. [Archived as /info-mac/cdev/change-arrow-12.hqx; 13K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 19:45:03 -0800 (PST) From: dplatt@snulbug.mtview.ca.us (Dave Platt) Subject: [*] Genoa & TechPhonetic fonts This posting contains a convertion into TrueType format of the Genoa font. What follows is a StuffIt 1.5.1 archive containing the Genoa PostScript font as it was originally received by me (bitmap, downloadable PostScript file(s), and perhaps documentation and/or AFM files). I've added a suitcase file which contains a TrueType version of the font, created by FontMonger 1.0. The PostScript version of this font is actually two fonts... GenoaRoman and GenoaItalic. In the TrueType version, I've merged these into a single font... Genoa... with both plain and italic styles. Generic statement: I am not the author of this font; I'm simply converting it as a service to the Mac community. I believe that it's legitimate for me to convert and redistribute this font... if you feel otherwise or have information to the contrary, please contact me via email. If this is a shareware font, please honor the author's shareware request if you use either the PostScript or TrueType version of the font. --- Dave Platt [Archived as /info-mac/font/tt/genoa.hqx; 330K /info-mac/font/tt/tech-phonetic.hqx; 313K] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 01:13:55 -0400 From: cem@cs.brown.edu (Charles E. Moylan) Subject: [*] Strike Jets This is a stuffed, binhexed version of "Strike Jets: Air War in the Modern Age", a tactical simulation of modern jet fighter combat for the Macintosh. Players can command up to an entire squadron against the computer or go head-to-head against another player. Two scenarios are provided: one an aerial dogfight and the other a ground strike mission. It's a strategic game, not a flight simulator. Demo. Please place in your Macintosh archives. Thanks! Charlie Moylan (cem@cs.brown.edu) [Archived as /info-mac/game/strike-jets.hqx; 504K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 9:41:52 EDT From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil> Subject: 6.07 and Omnipage incompatabilities Pete Tamas <V5296E@templevm.bitnet> writes: >Some time ago, James Bradley asked about Omnipage & 6.07 incompatabilities. >Whaat was the result? If you use Omnipage, do you stay away from 6.07? I use Omnipage 2.12. Ran it under 6.0.4, 6.0.7, and now 7.0FC1. No problems to report. > Thanks--Pete >Acknowledge-To: <V5296E@TEMPLEVM> > tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 11:30:10 EDT From: jeteye@cbl.umd.edu (James Love) Subject: AOL/CompuServe Request Greetings from the Chesapeake .... I've read a recent review (MacSciTech Association News, 2nd Quarter '91) and subsequently received vendor information on a new Math/Stat/Graphics application called InterPlot [Scientific Visions, Silver Spring Md - (301) 593-0317]. Features which have attracted my attention include built-in error analysis options [including error propagation], X and Y error bar display, FFT and linear/non-linear curve fitting to user-specified functions - all for only $99.00. A demo version [ip.sea] has been posted to both AOL and Compu$erve [lib0 or lib14], but unfortunately I lack access to both these forums. Could some kind Info-Mac reader possibly down-load this software and make it available on the sumex-aim archives ?? Thanks, Jim Jim Love <jeteye@cbl.umd.edu> Univ. of Maryland System / Solomons, Md ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 22:00 +0200 From: "Povl H. Pedersen" <ECO861771@ecostat.aau.dk> Subject: Before you install system 7.0 I am now the happy user of the final international release, which was presented by Apple Denmark the 6th may 1991 for the supporters at the danish Apple Centers. PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE INSTALLING SYSTEM 7.0 If you are going to install system 7.0 on a system which already contains an older system folder, then I recommend the following steps: 1. Backup your harddisk. If you do not do this, then follow the next steps very closely. 2. Boot from a system 6.x floppy. Open the system folder on your harddisk. 3. Create a new folder in your system folder, and name it 'old finder' 4. Drag the file 'Finder' from the system folder on the harddisk to the folder created in step 3. 5. Rename your system folder on the harddisk to 'old system folder' -- At this point your harddisk does NOT contain a system which is recognizable by a macintosh, and as such you will get a clean installation when you install system 7. You can then move/copy all the stuff you still need to the new system folder. Quite some INITs are incompatible, and the DiskDoubler INIT makes the system crash when you click the menu bar. SWITCHING BETWEEN 6.0 AND 7.0 This is no problem. Just create a folder named 'old finder' in the system 7.0 folder. When you want to start up under system 6.0 then just drag the finder in the system 7.0 folder to the 'old finder' folder. Then open the system 6.0 system folder, and the 'old finder' folder inside it. Drag the Finder here to the system 6.0 system folder ('old system folder' if you used same names as I suggested in the above steps). Reboot, and you are running system 6.0 You should then update the system 6.0 LaserWriter driver to system 7.0 to make sure that printers will not restart all the time. Good luck in your installation. I am not responsible for the consequences of anything you do, even if you think I made you do it. But I know the above process worked fine for me with all the versions from 6.03 to 7.0, and that a friend of mine spoiled his system file by just hitting the Install button. Povl H. Pedersen eco861771@ecostat.aau.dk / hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1991 00:20 PDT From: JBAYER@scuacc.scu.edu Subject: DeskWriter et al. c/o Karl Pottie I too am interested in refilling my DeskWriter cartridges, I know there are commercial kits (syringes) for about $10.00, but I have never used them. I recently installed the upgrade kit from HP, and I am still awaiting the promised improved performance. I have a related question about the DeskWriter: I understand that it is not a PostScript printer but I thought I read somewhere that you can buy a software program that would allow you to use PostScript fonts. Does anyone recall??? Joe (by the way I resolved my up/down load problem- thanks) ------------------------------ Date: 08 May 91 17:28 GMT From: KURAS@applelink.apple.com (Kuras, Patrick) Subject: Font Problem >I have a font problem I can't seem to solve. A small display font shows >up distorted in many applications; for example, in HyperCard buttons that >use icons, in Excel's help window, and in many other places. I had the >problem in 6.0.5 and now in 6.0.7. I tried unloading all my inits and >cdevs and restarting, but that didn't fix it. I have a straight II with >Apple RGB monitor. Any ideas? It's probably something real simple, but >I am no Mac whiz. > >Barry Bandstra, Hope College (bandstra@hope.bitnet) You may be experiencing a new feature of the (some manager). If a text item is too long to fit in its allotted space, the letterspacing is compressed a bit to see if it will fit. If it will, it is dislpayed with the reduced letterspacing. If not, it will be truncated and maybe displayed with ellipsis. I'm not sure if this is it, but it might help... pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 91 21:47:54 EST From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: INTERNET/BITNET e-mail to GEnie On Tue, 07 May 91 03:36 PDT Gann Matsuda said: >Currently, there is no way to send mail from either BITNET or >INTERNET to GEnie. GEnie is in the process of considering an >INTERNET connection. That's the same gateway they've been "considering" for more than two years :-( I wouldn't hold my breath (I'm told Genie's administration is awaiting a clammoring of their paying customers <after all the gateway will cost them something> for the service - economically sensible if frustrating for us). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 91 10:05:28 EST From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: INTERNET/BITNET e-mail to GEnie On Wed, 08 May 91 02:10 PDT Gann Matsuda said: >In the GEnieus Roundtable on GEnie, is category 8,there is a topic >regarding an INTERNET e-mail connection. There is indeed a lot of >GEnie users requesting it. Sure, GEnie will charge for it. After What GEnie wants is assurance of enough volume to be able to spread what is largely a fixed cost (running a gateway) over enough uses and users to keep the charge per mailing small enough to be acceptable. Most marketers know that potential customers would LIKE products and services to be available, the difficult part is figuring out how many of them actually will PAY for them. If GEnie puts up a gateway they need some confidence that there'll be a CONTINUING demand (and concommitant willingess to pay). If the volume going throught the Compu$erve gateway is a clue (last week that gate got so overloaded it was 50K messages behind), there'll be plenty of demand. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1991 10:41:34 +0000 From: Laboratorio de TeleInformatica UPM-FIM <ltele@fi.upm.es> Subject: LANWORKS Do you know any problem with LANWORKS in a SE-30 over a 3COM Ethernet board? Is there any manner for to connect a display X-Windows to the SE-30, also ethernet board? Thanks for your information. ltele@fi.upm.es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 91 09:06:26 CST From: Randy Bradley <MARC003%UNLVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Laserwriter page size & simple tricks >Date: Mon, 6 May 1991 09:04 EDT >From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER@grove.iup.edu> >Subject: Arbitrary LaserWriter Page Sizes > >WALLACE FELDMAN was asking why the LaserWriter driver won't let you define >arbitrary page sizes like the ImageWriter lets you do. Or rather, he was >asking if there was some sneaky trick that would let you do in on a LW as well > >I've tried to think of a way to do it, but I've come to the conclusion that it >can't be done. Here's why: the ImageWriter is a line-oriented printer >generally designed to be fed by a continuous "stream" of paper. "Page" to an >mageWriter just means that after 66 lines you do a few line feeds to skip over >he preforation. Since it advances the paper after each line is printed, it is >a simple matter to tell the printer to make the pages only 6 lines, or 12 >lines, or 47 lines, or any arbitrary size. Mark, are you sure it is not just because Apple wrote their Laserwriter driver that way? I mean, the only real trick to page size on a Laserwriter is to start printing at the top left corner of the page. The only problem here is that when you feed the paper into the Laserwriter, you place it against the RIGHT side of the feed tray instead of the more logical LEFT side. Now, since the Laserwriter driver wants to start printing at the top left corner, it is up to the higher level software to set up the left margin to start at the correct indent. Fortunately, many higher level software packages will set this up for you, An old package I like is SCOOP from Target Software that supports any user page size and sets up lots of custom printing options for book interleaving, etc. What ever happened to them anyway? Alas, I ramble... Back to the original problem. The "TRICK" I always use is to print "WIDE", "LANDSCAPE", I hope most readers know these terms by now. This will work if your page length is less than 8 inches and your page width is less than 11.5 inches. Then feed your paper in sideways. This is one case were two wrongs make it right !-) I use this trick all the time to print 5*7 cards from Foxbase for Labels in two columns. Works great! Hope this helps... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 91 11:40:00 EDT From: "CDR CALCATERRA" <calcater@usna.navy.mil> Subject: MAC/IIGS Networking I'm interested in networking a "Woz" IIGS running the "old" SCSI card and a 32MB CMS drive with a MAC IIcx with Sony/Apple 40MB internal drive. Best possible results would be a sharing of an IW-II printer and allowing the IIGS and IIcx to share space in the external CMS drive. Cost is always a factor! Any help/suggestions from your readers would be great. "Cal" calcater@csvax2.scs.usna.navy.mil - or - calcater@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 91 10:42:45 SST From: Chiang-Seng Chong <CCECCS%NUSVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: MacroMind Director Scripts We are looking for MacroMind Director scripts for a multimedia presentation. It should be a kind of shell where you can attached bits & pieces of frames or even video clips, animations and the like. We intend to create an inter- active presentation of the University where the user can select the various departments and areas of interest. If you already have one in use or in development, please drop me a line. Thank you. Chiang-Seng, Chong (National University of Singapore) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 91 12:02:44 +0300 From: Rhoda Frydman <LSFRYD%WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Missing address Hi MacUsers, In the BYTE Magazine of March 1991, we found a note in the NEWS MicroBytes section about a small company that has come up with a way to make diskless booting possible over Ethernet. The company is called Mauswerks in Columbus, OH. (The product is called BootToob for $139). Could anyone out there send us their address, BitNet, or Faximilia number. Please send an answer directly to LSFRYD@WEIZMANN Thanx a lot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 16:05 CST From: TURNBULL@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx Subject: NuVista or NuVista+ users Hello netters, I'm trying to get in touch with any NuVista or NuVista+ users, especialy if you have had any experience geting good video output, to a VCR 3/4 or VHS or Beta. Please let me know if you've done so, I would appreciate it very much for I've had some problems with fliker and also a blur on red colours. Thank you very much in advance... Charlie Turnbull Turnbull@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx Universidad de las Americas-Puebla Mexico ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 07:57:47+010 From: Alfonso Fuggetta - CEFRIEL <alfonso@ercole.cefriel.it> Subject: oztex figures I have received a solution to the problem concerning figures in OzTeX. Since other people have the same problem, I am including the hint I received from Herb Howe (thank you very much, Herb): it works!!! --Alfonso Fuggetta >Posted-Date: Tue, 7 May 91 10:04:12 PDT >Date: Tue, 7 May 91 10:04:12 PDT >From: HWE%ORFE.ESNET@ESNMRG.NERSC.GOV >Subject: oztex figures >To: ALFONSO@MAILER.cefriel.it >Comment: From HWE@ORFE.ESNET on May 7, 1991 at 13:05 EDT > >Alfonso, >The following lines show one way to include a figure created with >Canvas 2.1 in a LaTeX docuement with OzTeX 1.3: > >\setlength{\unitlength}{1in} >\begin{figure}[h] >\begin{picture}(6.0,7.0) >\put(0.0,7.0){\special{graphic.ps 0.24 0.24 scale}} >\end{picture} >\caption{Text for figure caption goes here.} >\end{figure} > >where graphic.ps is the postscript file created with cmd-f in Canvas. >The numbers after the filename scale the graphic down to account for >the resolution difference between the screen (72dpi) and the LaserWriter >(300dpi). The two numbers scale the x and y dimensions, respectively. >Any scale factor may be used to make the figure fit properly in the >document. To obtain a one-to-one correspondence in size between the >Canvas and OzTeX figures, use a scale factor of 0.24 (=72/300) as shown >above. The arguements of the \put command (0.0,7.0 in this case) may be >modified to properly position the figure on the page. >Hope this helps. > >Herb Howe >hwe@fedc07.fed.ornl.gov > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 7:05:58 EDT From: siegel@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Warren Siegel) Subject: Possible PRAM Problem I posted this to comp.sys.mac.hardware (Distribution: usa) on Thu Apr 18, and so far the only response I got was from one other person who had exactly the same problem: My Mac + has a problem that looks like a bad connection to my battery or PRAM. Once every few days or so, I start it up and it's lost the following settings: time, date, speaker volume, initial map setting, mouse tracking speed. I replaced the battery: no change. I know nothing about hardware, and the electronics people here know nothing about Macs. I don't subscribe to this newsgroup (that's why I know nothing about hardware :-) ), so please e-mail. (Also, I'm too cheap to buy the manual. Besides, if I did, I would know something about hardware; see above.) If there is general interest, I'll summarize. If this is a FAQ, I won't. Thanks a lot. (No .sig: Yaaaaaaay...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1991 14:32:03 PDT From: The Moderators <Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Subject: Prospective new moderators Those who mailed info-mac-request about volunteering to be a new moderator should have received a test mailing on Tuesday. If you did not, please mail info-mac-request again. Thanks, Bill ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 91 01:34:43 GMT From: justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Justin Ridge) Subject: Reading AU files (& GIFs) First things first, I've had heaps of answers to my enquiry about displaying GIFs. I can now do this perfectly. Thanks to everyone who replied - sorry I don't have time to respond individually. Next question: does anyone know of archives other than WUARCHIVE, SCHIZO, and SUMEX? I've seen a lot of lists, but none seem to be remotely accurate (each misses out a substantial no. of archives and includes ones with no GIF files) AND....... DOES anyone know of a utility which will let .au sound files (used on Suns?) to be played on the mac? We have a lot of Sun stuff in Oz. Any information will be gratefully received. Justin, justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 16:09:28 +0100 From: nve%BDILUC01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Shared file usage statistics ? Dear Netters, Does anybody know a program which allows one to gather statistics on usage of shared files on an AppleShare file server ? Please reply directly to NVE@BDILUC01.BITNET. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 1991 10:26 EST From: "MJ Kociscin, RIT/Apple Student Representative" <MJK7911@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> Subject: Sigma Designs DoubleUp Compression board Does anyone have any comments on the DoubleUp Data compression package? For those of you who are not familiar with this, DoubleUp is a NuBus expansion card that works in conjunction with DiskDoubler 3.1 (included). Given that the mail order houses are selling this for $179, I am seriously consdering purchasing it. However, before I do, I would like to see what owners/users have found out about it. Thanks! Mark J. Kociscin Please send replies directly to: MJK7911@ritvax.isc.rit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 09:25:37 +0100 From: lempens%BDILUC01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: The Mac internal synthezisers Hi fellow LabView users or C-programmers out there, We at the physics department of our university are doing some analysis on speech with our students of the second grade. We are using now the LPC method ( Linear Predictive Coding ). After analysing and/of processing the signal, we would like to send it back as a analog signal to a speaker. Is there anybody who used the internal sound manager or sound synthesizers of the MAC. I now you can make a C-language routine and use that in LabView, bud I don't now how to program in C. I looked in the Inside Mac V for the sound manager. So is there anybody who has made some VI's for those routines like "SndPlay", "SndNewChannel", "SndAddModifier", "SndDoCommand", "SndControl", etc., or VI's that control those various synthesisers like ID 1 "note synthesizer", ID 3 "wave table syntheziser", ID 5 "sampled sound synthesizer", etc. Many thanks, I look forward to the answers Rick Lempens Limburgs Universitair Centrum Belgium BitNet LEMPENS@BDILUC01.bitnet P.S. I am using a MAC IIfx. I hope this causes no problems with sound! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 91 17:53:22 CDT From: Marc Cooper <MAC566F%SMSVMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Token ring and ethernet The recent postings on token ring vs. ethernet only begin to scratch the surface of the networking problems likely to be encountered by Mac users. MacTCP, for instance, does not support the standard Internet protocols TCP/IP with Apple's tokentalk card (or any other T'ring card at the moment). In practice this means that the encapsulated T'ring packets produced by a dedicated mac running MacTCP with tokentalk can only be understood by another Mac with the tokentalk card. Not very useful in the kind of computing environment likely to be found at a university with an IBM mainframe. To get on the token ring, a Mac must send tokentalk packets to a router (Gator Box, etc.) which cost nearly $20,000. PCs with a token card can get to the T'ring with nothing more than an inexpensive bridge. When the T'ring backbone goes through my building, our dean will probably ask us what are the benefits of networking and how much does it cost? The copper to fiber connection together with the bridge is likely to be inexpensive enough to justify the cost since we probably have 100 pc's in the building. How will I justify a gateway or expensive router for a couple of Macs? My only real hope for networking at the moment is that a) Apple will improve MacTCP to support native token ring packets, or; b) Computer Services will decide to go with ethernet instead of tokenring. Acknowledge-To: <MAC566F@SMSVMA> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 02:45:31 -0400 From: jones@estsc1.dnet.nasa.gov Subject: Transputer Development Systems Dear Netlanders, I am looking for a transputer development system for the Mac, Levco used to make one but i can not find any current advertising. Does anyone out there use this system (or any other) and have a contact for Levco? many thanks andru AJONES@SOLAR.STANFORD.EDU SPAN SOLAR::AJONES ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 1991 18:55-0400 From: Carl L. Gay <CGay@alderaan.scrc.symbolics.com> Subject: Truetype INIT crashes IIsi I just installed the software for my new StyleWriter and now my machine (a IIsi with no FPU) crashes immediately after startup (after the Truetype INIT is displayed) with the error message "coprocessor not installed." When I remove the Truetype INIT from the System folder the problem goes away. I have been able to boot from a floppy with the Truetype INIT and at least view some Truetype fonts in the Font/DA Mover so I'm guessing that the problem is running Truetype in combination with some other piece of software. Anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions? (Could this be related to the fact that Hypercard 2.0 crashes my machine?) -Carl ------------------------------ Date: 8 May 91 17:43:47 GMT From: Mitch Cherniack <mitch@cs.concordia.ca> Subject: What is this virus? Can anyone identify a virus which causes an occasional crash after it displays a crudely drawn "unhappy face" on the right hand side of the menu bar. Disinfectant 2.1 did not find it, and SAM Virus Clinic crashes every time I have it scan what I suspect is the infected drive. What is this virus and how does one remove it? Mitch Cherniack mitch@concour.cs.concordia.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 91 23:00:40 CDT From: "sendhil revuluri" <revu@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Where can I find... Hello Net: I am an undergrad math major. As such, I am poor. I need a TeX or other mathematical typesetting program which is freeware or shareware/commercial but costs no more that $75. Does anyone know if such a program exists? If so, what? Are any available at anonymous FTP sites anywhere? Any info (any at all) would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sendhil Revuluri revu@midway.uchicago.edu University of Chicago ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************