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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 23 May 91 Volume 9 : Issue 115 Today's Topics: [*] Understudy extension for System 7.0 7 is not your lucky number: Look and Feel AfterDark S-->T updater? Alternative to BITFTP Command keys in System 7 Finder FontMonger Hard drive/power light question Looking for utility to change type and creator MacTCP problem MacTCP under System 7? NUBus Cards Possible problem with GENJI Q: About files servers for Macintosh. Scrolling in System 7.0 SE/30 problem: Disk unreadable !?! Strange Sounds System-7 vs. Tops System 7.0 and AppleTalk Phase 1 System 7.0 hard drive problems System 7.0 Tip System 7 Impressions & a Query System 7 Installation TrueType and DeskWriter Typeographer 2.0 and some unrelated System 7 quirks... What happens to FinderStartUp? X11R4 for A/UX The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 May 91 18:37:18 -0700 From: lsr@apple.com Subject: [*] Understudy extension for System 7.0 Enclosed is Understudy version 1.0d3. This is a system extension for use with System 7.0. You also need ResEdit to customize Understudy. Understudy allows you to customize 2 things within the System 7 Finder: (1) In System 7, the Finder will offer to open TEXT and PICT files with TeachText if the creating application can't be found. Understudy extends this by allowing you to designate other applications (understudies) that can open certain document types. (2) In System 7 you can drop documents on top of applications. This is controlled by a resource in the application. Understudy will let you designate document types that can be dropped on an application without modifying the application. Understudy is distributed free of charge. If you give this to someone or upload it elsewhere, please include the entire package with documentation. Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc. lsr@apple.com (or AppleLink: Rosenstein1) [Archived as /info-mac/init/understudy-10d3.hqx; 9K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 17:49:01 CDT From: milton@niven.cc.umanitoba.ca (Dave Milton) Subject: 7 is not your lucky number: Look and Feel !!!!!! FLAME ON! > stuff deleted > > Alas, I was mistaken. Although almost all my programs work just fine, my > experience with the "System" has been negative. I have 8MB of RAM, so I > can't really get much out of VM because my machine has dirty-ROMs. The other What do you mean? You can have VM on that machine, just not giga-bytes of it! > I use it 4 hours a day. What drives me mad is the annoying cuteness that > you CANNOT turn off (at least you can turn bubbles off!). I'm talking about > time wasted in zoom rectangles. I'm talking about trash warnings no matter > what is in the trashcan. I'm talking about no ability to use key shortcuts > for finder operations like "Empty Trash" or "Restart". If you didn't know > you could change these things - System7 is for you!! If you have a copy of ResEdit 2.1 you will find the resources you want in the Finder's resource fork to turn off the zoom rectangles. The "Empty Trash" problem is caused because you cannot even check the help files - try a get info on the trash can!!!!!!! you can turn off the warnings there. The keyboard equivalents for menu items can be added if you have a close look - I hacked together a TMPL for the fmnu resources which contain the Finder's menus and was able to change the key equivalents to my preferences. > For the rest of us, who used ResEdit on dear old Finder to adjust the look > and feel to our situation, we need 6.0.7 back. None of these things are > even resources in the Finder anymore. Apple guidelines used to tell people > to use resources, so that users who really wanted to could change things. You still can - you just didn't look far enough! > > Now to decide if file sharing is worth being trapped with Disneyland cuteness > everytime I want to delete something?? > > Randy Saunders > Hughes Aircraft > While some of the changes you made to the old system are not immediately obvious with System 7.0 they all can be done. I feel that your criticism is based on ignorance of what you have rather than cold hard fact. Your message is a disservice to all those people who worked long hard hours to produce one of the most stable system releases I have seen from Apple. System 7.0 gives you more control of the Macintosh environment than any previous version and yet you didn't even give it a chance before you condem it. FLAME OFF. IMHO Apple has done a great job in System 7 and should be congratulated on an excellent product. My experience with System 7.0 has been trouble free. I installed it, it worked. All of my software runs (except MPW 3.1 :-() with little or no problems. Many of my System Extensions and Control Panels do not work but this was expected and updates are available for the most useful ones like QuicKeys. Now I must be patient and WAIT for the manuals since it would appear that not all of System 7.0 is easy to master. There are many great features that I have becone addicted to - being able to scroll around in a window while draging is one (experiment with how you position the mouse for speed control). The process menu allows me to hide the front application (MultiFinder 6.1b9 does this too). Zooming the window now makes the window fit the enclosed icons rather than filling the screen (Ya Hoo). And a long list of other great things... David A. Milton <milton@ccu.UManitoba.CA> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 00:38:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Wonchul Park <wp0u+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: AfterDark S-->T updater? After upgrading to 7.0, I found that my Afterdark still has a version number 2.0s. Since 2.0u does not roll out yet, which is claimed to be 100% compatible with 7.0, is there any kind soul to point where I can get an S-to-T updater? Thanx in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 19:42:06 -0400 From: ak751@cleveland.freenet.edu (Mark Saltzman) Subject: Alternative to BITFTP I used to use BITFTP, a mail server for internet ftp, to ftp files >From the info-mac archives and other sites. Since the only account I have is on an internet bbs whose services include mail but not ftp or telnet, I am now cut off from all those great ftp sites. Does anyone have any information on why BITFTP cut off access to non-BITNET nodes? Does anyone know of other ways to get files from the internet through mail? (especially system 7 which I was just about to get using BITFTP before I was cut off) thanks in advance, -mark ak751@cleveland.freenet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 11:03 EST From: G7D7K9@irishmvs.cc.nd.edu Subject: Command keys in System 7 Finder A few people wondered how to change the command keys in the Finder, since the Finder's menus are no longer MENU resources, and so there's no obvious way to edit the menus with ResEdit. After a little poking, I found that the menus in System 7's Finder are stored as "fmnu" resources (although that's not all "fmnu"s are--there are many more fmnu resources than there are menus). Anyway, if want to change or add a command key to a menu item, you have to poke around until you find the text of the menu item's name (e.g. "Empty Trash") and then change the byte that is three bytes before the first letter of the item's name to the command key. Maybe an example would be more clear--to be able to use Command-T to "Empty Trash", open fmnu #1255 (ResEdit opens fmnus as generic resources), and change byte number 2C to "T" or $54. Byte number 2C is three bytes before the "E" in "Empty Trash" at byte number 2F. Like most things with ResEdit, this isn't for the faint of heart, and for all I know it may have some disasterous consequences. But it's worked for me, and I haven't noticed any side effects. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 13:34 +02:00 From: DALFE%TRBOUN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: FontMonger Could somebody tell me what is FontMonger? Is it PD? If so, where can I get it? Thanks Nuzhet DALFES Bogazici University Istanbul, TURKIYE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 14:14:13 +0200 From: thomas%INFORMATIK.MATHEMATIK.UNI-MAINZ.DE@forsythe.stanford.edu (Thomas Schueler) Subject: Hard drive/power light question Why donSt you try to use the InUse cdev written by Sam Barone. Every time the HD or any other SCSI device is accessed a (configurable) sign appears beside the apple in the menu bar. I use version 2.0 and it works fine with System 7.0. ItSs available at sumex-aim as /info-mac/cdev/in-use-20.hqx Regards, thomas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 13:23:26 EDT From: rocket!cory@uunet.uu.net (Cory Myers) Subject: Looking for utility to change type and creator I am looking for a utility to allow me to change the type and creator of a file. I know how to do it in ResEdit but I need to set up an idiot proof method for normal users. Ideally the application should be restricted to convert only from one specified type to another specified type. BTW, here is the real problem if anyone has a better idea. We are running CAP/AUFS on a SUN. Sun users have FrameMaker documents that they wish to edit on the Mac. If they copy their FrameMaker documents to an AUFS disk the default file type and creator is set to TEXT/unix. FrameMaker on the Mac allows you to read TEXT files but the automatic character translation that AUF provides for TEXT files messes up FrameMaker. If I edit the type and creator of the file to be right for FrameMaker everything works like a charm. Ideal solution would be to set the type and creator when I copy the file to the AUFS disk. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 08:28:18 EDT From: Wayne Wilson <Wayne.Wilson@med.umich.edu> Subject: MacTCP problem We just discovered the following problem with MacTCP 1.0.1. We have Mac II class machines with ethernet cards, attached to a subnet hanging off a IP router port. THis particular subnet is dually addressed, meaning that two IP networks are defined in the router for the same physical cable plant. The router sends out RIP updates with default routes (i.e. entries with metrics for 0.0.0.0) for both IP subnets, the RIP packets are indentical except that one comes from subnet A and the other comes from subnet B. The router always sends out the RIP packet for subnet B first and then follows (less than 5 ms) later with the RIP packet for subnet A. MacTCP listens to RIP automatically and if you set the IP address of the workstation to subnet B, all works well, if you set the workstation address to subnet A, MacTCP changes it's gateway from A to B with the first series of RIP packets that the router sends out. Then, when MacTCP attempts to ARP the gateway, the router never responds, and this is because it can't because MacTCP is asking for an ARP on a different subnet now. (ARP only works on the same subnet) First, MacTCP seems unable to deal with RIP on multiply addressed subnets, it should not set a gateway for a subnet that it is not part of. Second, the second RIP packet is not being picked up on, or we would get the reverse situation, i.e. workstations on B would try to use the gateway on A. Our solution was to turn RIP off for that LAN, but it is not a suitable longtern solution as we want RIP to work so we can install redundant IP paths. Note, the detail I have described has been observed with our sniffer, both in the production environment and in our test environment. Wayne Wilson U of M Medical Center ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 1991 9:48:33 EDT From: H_DOLBEN@unhrcc.unh.edu Subject: MacTCP under System 7? I see people mention, in various messages, using MacTCP with System 7. The Compatibility Checker and other sources (e.g., MacWEEK) say that MacTCP must be upgraded to version 1.1, which is due out in June. Does anyone have any more specific information? Does MacTCP 1.0.1 work in System 7 under some conditions; perhaps without virtual memory? If people respond to me, I will post a summary to the digest. Regards, Hank Dolben, SSC/SERB, Univ. of NH, Durham, NH 03824, 603-862-1391 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 03:43:09 EDT From: wdb@mbunix.mitre.org Subject: NUBus Cards Does anyone have information/experience on the use of NUBUS expansion devices? I have heard of a product called the NUBUS Expander, made by a company called 2nd Wave, but have been unable to find any information. I am looking to use something like this to support installation of various MIDI cards. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 08:51:26 CDT From: "Bill Frazier" <GG.WSF@isumvs.iastate.edu> Subject: Possible problem with GENJI I would suggest care in using the GENJI After Dark module. I installed it under randomizer (after trying it out) and it seemed to work fine. I started noticing that the program in the window active when A-D started up would "unexpectedly quit". This happened very consistently and experimenting showed that the quitting happened whenever the GENJI window became active. My A-D claims that it is 2.0t and I'm running 6.07. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 15:50:55 GMT-12:00 From: David Richards <DAVID@wcc.govt.nz> Subject: Q: About files servers for Macintosh. We are currently using Alisa's AlisaShare & Digital's PATHWORKS for Macintosh for shareing files and printing on our Macintosh network. But the problem with both of the file servers is the speed, it is too slow. I have heard that there is a Macintosh file server that runs under UN*X, that is very fast. Can someone send details to the address below. David Richards "david@ccc.govt.nz" if mail bounces try "david%wcc.govt.nz@ccc.govt.nz" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 15:50:03 PDT From: "William J. Lipa" <lipa@neon.stanford.edu> Subject: Scrolling in System 7.0 A few days ago I posted about a significant decrease in scrolling speed when using 256-color mode in System 7.0. Dean Yu from Apple suggested I turn off the colored windows using the Color control panel. This speeds things up considerably. Apparently the extra expense of drawing the color scroll bar and various other window pieces is what causes the slowdown. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 19:26:14 CDT From: Steve Schaffer <schaffer@lks.csi.com> Subject: SE/30 problem: Disk unreadable !?! Fellow Netters, I'm having a problem with my SE/30 that I can't seem to figure out. One day when I booted my Mac, it froze just before the finder windows came up. So I hit the programmer's switch to restart. After rebooting I started getting dialogs saying "This disk is unreadable: Do you want to initialize it?" with the icon pointing to an external floppy. But I don't have an external drive !?! Hitting the eject button from the dialog let's me work for a few seconds before it appears again. If I hit initialize, a message says "Initialization failed! This disk is write-protected!" and then the process repeats. Some applications will cause the dialogs to cease, even after the application exits. One of these is HD Backup. Thinking this might be a hard disk problem (40M internal, factory), I ran MacTools Rescue, which listed, in addition to my hard disk and the floppy, "Upper Internal Drive ***BAD Volume". I'm running 6.0.5 if it makes any difference. The problem persists, even with no INITs, and if I boot 7.0 Golden from a floppy. Is this a hardware problem, or what?? Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give me. Steve Schaffer schaffer@lks.csi.com or schaffer@erlang.tisl.ukans.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 07:53:13 CDT From: John Venable <JMVENABL%SAMFORD.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Strange Sounds Every so often, I boot my SE/30 (System 6.0.7, 8mb RAM) and, instead of the happy Mac, the screen is gray and the computer is emitting sounds! Specifically it repeats a cycle consisting of a minor chord followed by a major chord played a note at a time (do me sol do). Rebooting once usually cures it. Is this one of those undocumented 'features'? a virus? any clues? John Venable Samford University Birmingham AL 35229 (205) 870-2685 BITNET JMVENABL@SAMFORD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 13:51:21 CDT From: paulr@planet8.planet8.sp.unisys.com (Paul Raulerson) Subject: System-7 vs. Tops Title: System-7 vs. Tops vs. PC Connectivity period. Hi folks- I have a problem. :-( As you may have guessed from the title, System-7 on a Macintosh breaks TOPS real quick. Since I want to use System-7 (it eliminates the need for an Appleshare server with my situation) and I need to be able to access PC's, and the fact that Sitka isn't releasing a new version TOPS till *August*, I need some advice. What is a good alternative? Will the Appletalk Client software for a PC, whatever it is and wherever you can get it, work with a TOPS Flashcard in the PC? If so, where can I get it and how much does it cost? Are there any other viable alternatives? I have looked at "MacChuck" >From _Vano Associates_, and it does allow from file transfer and control of a PC from the Macs (using the TOPS Flashcard in the PC, and with Liason running on a Mac) under System-7. It is a bit too clumsy to use when you want ot move a lot of files and subdirectories around though. Particuarly after you have gotten spoiled and are used to useing the finder to make things happen on PCs. Any information or alternatives would be greatly appreciated! Thanks -Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 12:52:49 CET From: Michael Daether <BF5%DHDURZ1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: System 7.0 and AppleTalk Phase 1 I just want to mention that Phase 1 of AppleTalk seems to work with System 7.0. I just dragged the old Phase 1 AppleTalk to the Extensions folder and it worked ok. As a matter a fact I ignored most of the suggestions from the compatibility checker and nearly all my old programs work. The only problem I encounterd is with out Sun running CAP; deleting files on the Sun seems to hang the connection. Has anybody a solution to that? Or where can I get the newest version of CAP? And yet another Question: Compatibility checker suggested to use HyperCard 2.1, included with system 7.0. But it is not included with the disks from ftp.apple.com. What is wrong? MICHAEL DAETHER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 18:51:01 CDT From: rcook@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Robert Cook) Subject: System 7.0 hard drive problems Maybe one of you hardware gurus can figure this out.... I'm having trouble getting System 7.0 to run on my Classic 4/105 APS external. The install works fine, but when I reboot, the hard drive hangs during the rebuild of the desktop. The drive works fine running 6.0.7. When I try to boot from the install 1 disk, I get error 47 (or 41- cant recall) --reboot with extensions off. To no avail, still hangs trying to rebuild. So I got a sys 7 startup disk from a friend, and tried to boot from it. It boots fine, but when it scans the SCSI bus and sees an HD, it tries to rebuild.....boom....select light comes on...system hangs. With the drive unplugged, the startup disk works fine. Well, I started thinking about a termination problem. I have no internal hard drive, so I thought I had found a problem when I remembered that the motherboard was swapped a couple months ago when I had some RAM installed (didn't want to void my warrantee). I took the Classic to the dealer so he could check to see if the terminator on the motherboard was left off (aren't terminators put on Classics shipped w/no internal HD?) Well the terminator was indeed left off, so I had them put another one on. We then tried to boot from a floppy to reformat the drive, but SCSI probe found no hard drives connected. When we remove the terminator everything works fine again. Does Apple ship Classics terminated on the motherboard if no internal hd is installed? This is a pretty important question. Should this terminator be there or not? Right now I'm running without it, because 6.0.7 only works without it. The external drive is terminated. Does system 7.0 do some funny disk addressing that 6.0.7 doesn't? Could there be a bad sector on my drive causing 7.0 not to work but 6.0.7 to work fine? APS say's they can't duplicate the problem using the same setup as me. i.e. Mac Classic w/ 4MB RAM, APS Quantum Pro 105 HD. I think I'm going to send the drive to APS and see if they can get it to work. But first I wanted to ask the only real experts I can count on (the Usenet folks) before I go losing my HD for probably a week or more. If I left anything out, and you have some ideas, please e-mail me, and I'll explain things further if neccessary. BTW, this is all using APS Power tools 1.13 as the driver. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 1991 21:35 CST From: "NAME \"Chip Eckardt\"" <ECKARDPP@uwec.bitnet> Subject: System 7.0 Tip If your Mac freezes up on you after booting reboot with a bootable System 6.0X disk. Look for a folder in the main window on the hard drive called Desktop Folder. Delete this folder and reboot. This worked with beta 7.0 lockups. --Chip Eckardt-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 10:18:56 BST From: Marcus Harvey <marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk> Subject: System 7 Impressions & a Query Well, I've eventually managed to logon to ftp.apple.com and now have 7 running on my IIci, and the II at work. Overall I like it, the colour icons and menu and scroll bars are very well done - but what happened to the buttons? The new font and sound organisation is excellent and the Apple Menu Items folder is superb - ResEdit went straight in there! Balloon help... hmmmm.. I'm sure this is very useful and Apple probably are right in providing a *standard* way to provide online help but maybe it should be a cdev and/or system extension? That way those who didn't want it wouldn't have to have it cluttering there menu bar. Ok, here's my big gripe - I hate the new applications menu! I really liked the way it was done at 6 with the click-to-cycle on the right , and the applications under the DA's in the apple menu. Actually maybe its the proliferation of icons on the right of the menu bar I don't like. With SuperClock running (which by the way behaves exemplary under 7!) it looks terribly cluttered. And I don't like this Hide Application idea - surely it should be against user interface guidelines? WindowShade is a far more elegant and transparent solution to screen clutter. Anyway, apart from that it's lovely, but it's going to take me some time to get used to all those menus on the right. Oh, yes, File Sharing looks great but why oh why don't manufacturers let stand alone Macs benefit from such security features? Right, now here's my *question*! How the **** do I get all those lovely colour icons to come out from under their bushels? Especially the hard disk icon and the inserted floppy icon? There are wondrous full colour icons for these in the System (or was it the Finder?) but they don't appear on my desktop. Apple File Exchange didn't show its colours either but I unchecked INITED in the resource info and re-opened its folder and it coloured up on the II at work. I did the same on my IIci and it didn't work! MacUser (UK) has a fully coloured hard disk icon (of Yosemite Sam actually) in it's 7 review. At home I gave a copy of ResEdit a colour icon from the SunDesk collection - unchecked INITED, nothing doing. Rebooted and rebuilt the desktop - nada. Them I ran Fix Desktop and presto! Bothe my copy of ResEdit and the original now have colour icons! Could someone explain this icon business fully? I WANT full colour floppies! Sorry, this is getting long, but just another quick Q. Where are the desktop patterns kept? The ones in the General Controls cdev? - marcus marcus@uk.ac.pcl.sun - JANET marcus%sun.pcl.ac.uk@ukacrl - BITNET/EARN P.S Boomerang is a bit dodgy under 7. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 21:17 CDT From: Ernie Soffronoff <SOFFRONE@carleton.edu> Subject: System 7 Installation I figured out what my problem was regarding installing System 7. It turns out that disk images downloaded from America Online and ftp.apple.com shouldn't be mixed (not that anyone but me is stupid enough to download for money what they can get for free :). Anyway, after getting a complete set from ftp.apple.com, everything installed just peachy, and life is good again. Ernie Soffronoff soffrone@carleton.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 91 13:00:46 CST From: GA3985@siucvmb.cdale.siu.edu Subject: TrueType and DeskWriter From: Dan Becque Subject: TrueType and DeskWriter A number of individuals have commented about using TrueType fonts with their DeskWriters and improving print quality. So I downloaded the TT file from Apple.com to take advantage of this also. But where are the font outlines that you're supposed to put into your DW fonts folder? After unstuffing the file, I just end up with what appears to be bitmaps for use with the Font/DA mover. Please give me the clue. Thanks. Dan Becque GA3985@SIUCVMB.BITNET or GA3985@SIUCVMB.CDALE.SIU.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 1991 9:39:02 CDT From: "URPAS::WATTS"@fnale.fnal.gov (G. Watts -- Rochester) Subject: Typeographer 2.0 and some unrelated System 7 quirks... Hi y'all, First, the typeographer 2.0 question (this utility appeared on the net a couple of days ago). Great idea. I have a Stylewriter, so I am used to long waits for the output... but not 7 minutes! For every band it prints my SE/30 with 5 megs sits there and thinks for 15 to 20 seconds. It does this for every band -- even when nothing is printed on that band. Almost as if QuickDraw was rerendering the whole page for each band. Any ideas as to why this is happening? I have printed some fairly complex output (from Word and other stuff) but never seen this wait. This test was on System 6.0.7 -- I haven't tried it on System 7. Thanks Mark J. from Apple! I downloaded System 7 from ftp.apple.com, moved the diskimages to disks with DiskCopy (found in the dts/util directory on same machine). After backing up (;-)), running the compat checker I upgraded. Went without problem -- not even a small glitch (then again, I'm a single mac, no network, etc.). A couple of questions: 1). Why does the instaler install everything -- like the portable cdev, brightness cdev, etc.? Can't the installer figure out which machine I have and then run the "for SE/30" set only. I guess I could customize if I wished, but I didn't. 2). As you can tell, I didn't buy the manual. The most agravating thing about the finder: I can't figure out how to turn on the titles in the windows. I often have a file window open, but can't figure out which folder the window is! (I don't like the one window, all folders display so much). 3). In the general cdev. I tried to alter the desktop pattern. I can turn on pixels, but I can't turn off ones that are already on (in one of the Apple supplied patterns)! For example, this means I couldn't make a white desktop. I tried changing colors (meaninless on the SE/30, of course), but to no avail. Even without a manual, this isn't a problem I should be having. I am not, by the way, running VM -- I don't need it yet and I have Think C 4.0.5. Thanks for your time, Gordon Watts BITNET: watts@uorhep INET: "URHEP::WATTS"@fnala.fnal.gov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 91 10:07:59 -0400 From: ctchou@kodak.com (JOE CHOU, CTCHOU@KODAK.COM, INTERNET) Subject: What happens to FinderStartUp? Hi netters: In System 6.x there is a file called FinderStartUp which can be manipulated so that different files or applications in different folders can be opened during startup. Is there an equivalent thing in System 7.0? If there is one, what is it and is there a key combination to turn it off when I don't want it during startup? Thanks for any help in advance. Chou ------------------------------ Date: 23 May 91 11:47:00 CDT From: dstewart@dallas.rockwell.com Subject: X11R4 for A/UX I copied the X11R4 files and can not successfully get them uncompressed/ untarred. I copied the .aa, .ab, etc. files (since I had to use floppies to get them to my Mac) and successfully cat'ed them together. I'm also able to uncompress them with the A/UX uncompress command. When I use tar to list them or extract them, I get a 'directory checksum error'. When I use tar on a file that wasn't compressed (ie, Xmisc.tar), it works fine. I know there was a similar but different posting regarding this but I was unable to directly mail to the sender, so I thought I'd post to the net. Any suggestions? -Dan Stewart dstewart@dallas.rockwell.com ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************