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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 31 May 91 Volume 9 : Issue 124 Today's Topics: 3151 terminal emulation on Mac 32-bit ROMs, here we go again.... ???: RealTech PostScript Level 2 printer??? anonymous FTP sites with ClipArt Bad Sumex File boomernag ditto Can You Copy Sys 7? Apple Prez Says "Yes" Color PICTs in Nisus? Disinfectant Init DISKFIT and AppleShare volumes Error 39 Force Quit from the Finder Freedom of Press Lite getting sys7.0 HC Performance Imagewriter Magnet Expensive Fix Inside Mac DA Author LaserWriter 6.1 question MODE32 seeking Varityper Toolkit Shanghai and 12" color monitor Software Inventory? Suggestion for file sharing utility Suitcase II & Sys7.0 Super Boomerang Sys 7 & Sys 6.x on the same Local Talk net System 7.0 and file sharing... System7/Jasmine Driver System 7 and system 6 on two partitions? system 7 errors Teleport Modem THINK C 5.0 Where to get TT Init? Your Question: dragging objects in hypercard The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 May 91 08:50:00 +0100 From: kees@ooc.uva.nl (Kees de Ridder/Moret) Subject: 3151 terminal emulation on Mac Does anyone know of a package which emulates a 3151 terminal on a Mac? Kees de Ridder kees@ooc.uva.nl Applelink: Hol0146 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 18:20:19 EDT From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Subject: 32-bit ROMs, here we go again.... In the last info-mac, Murph Sewall wrote: >Really, I didn't miss your meaning - your concerned with the IMPLICATION >rather than the literal meaning. OK, bye-and-bye Apple probably WILL offer >a ROM upgrade (rumor says it's in the works and will contain bug fixes and >numerous improvements in addition to 32-bit clean). The ROM upgrade's price >is VERY LIKELY to EXCEED the (mail order) price of MODE32. Assuming MODE32 >works as advertised (and we'll hear one way or the other right here on this >net really soon I expect), what's the beef (you'd rather have the Apple log >on your solution even if it costs more and doesn't work any better)? I think what bugs me the most is the lack of a policy statement from Apple. I wouldn't mind particularly if they said [hypothetical], "We're going to release a ROM upgrade for the 24-bit machines in December." ...or whenever. Sure, that's a long wait, but at least I'll know. What I don't like is the stony silence. If they're going to wait until December, I'll buy MODE32. However, if they're coming out with it in July, I can wait. I'd just like to know what they're doing, so that I don't get stuck with a $100 program that is instantly obsolete, or get stuck waiting for a year for them to upgrade... What we need is for them to announce their INTENTIONS!!! Seeya, --Mike PS: Is MODE32 available yet? Anybody got it??? How about a break for owners of Virtual? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 08:05 PDT From: "Phil Jung.....Wherever you go, there you are. 8)" <PJUNG@scuacc.scu.edu> Subject: ???: RealTech PostScript Level 2 printer??? There's a company called Software and Hardware that Fits out of Texas that's selling a PostScipt level 2 printer for $1995... What (basically) is the difference between level 2 and the old version running in every other PS printer out there? Is PS l2 compatible with level 1 (or whatever you call it)? If I buy that printer, will it be compatible with existing software that uses PostScript? Has anyone bought or used this printer? Is it any good? It looks like the same case as the TI MicroLaser printers... In case you're curious, look on page 258-259 of the July 91 MacUser for their little blurb on this printer... I'm sure people out there are as curious as I am. It looks like a pretty good deal, if you ask me. But then again, that's just my $0.02 worth... Reply here, or e-mail me directly, and I'll post some results to the net... Phil Jung, Santa Clara University (for 2 more weeks!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 11:33:04 EDT From: "pmdmfmc" <pmdmfmc%buacca.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: anonymous FTP sites with ClipArt Hello Out There, I am working on a research project this summer that will require ClipArt require ClipArt (color, preferably). If anyone knows of such FTP sites, please e-mail the address to me. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 14:43:52 -0500 From: goodman@cs.wisc.edu (James R. Goodman) Subject: Bad Sumex File In converting to System 7 I shot a screwy bug for several hours before discovering that a file I downloaded from Sumex was the cause. The file is cdev/temperament-2.hqx. In the package is a MSWD document, AboutTemperament_2, that has the bundle bit set. This can create some weird behavior when you run Word. jrg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 10:22:11 PDT From: rich@vaxkiller.agi.org (Richard E. Showalter) Subject: boomernag ditto To those who are interested in boomerang 2.0 not super boomerang, I have a MacII running sys7.0 and have had boomerang working just fine. You have to put boomerang and the prefs file in the system root file, (it does not seem to work if it is in any of the subfiles). One problem, it does not work if you have 32bit addressing as we found out on a MacII fx. But, since I cannont use 32bit on my MacII I will continue to enjoy boomerang. Hope this helps someone else. Richard Showalter SysAdmin rich@vaxkiller.agi.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1991 14:56 EST From: AMINZADE%uvmvax.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Can You Copy Sys 7? Apple Prez Says "Yes" I guess I'm not alone in wondering how legal it was to copy System 7 rather than buying a shrink-wrapped copy (sure, everyone I knew was ftp'ing it from Apple.com, but the word from Apple execs was very confusing...moral dillemma). Well, this weeks PC WEEK (May 27, 1991) has an interview with Apple USA president Bob Puette, and he is quoted as saying To being with, we're continuing the policy that anyone can copy System 7. So one copy in a user group, and everyone can copy it. One copy in a company, and everyone can copy it. What you don't get in the process is the documentation that goes with it. Whoops, sorry, that should read "to begin with." Sounds pretty clear to me. Unless he's confused too :-) ------------------------------ Date: 30 May 91 21:45 -0500 From: "C.M. Cho" <ccho@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Subject: Color PICTs in Nisus? Hi, can anyone help here? I know Nisus's graphics tools don't support color, but can the program print an imported color PICT, either bitmapped or object? A simple 8 color graphic won't be printed by the IW II (only the black bits are printed, between yawning sections of white) Would a smarter printer handle the PICT? I phoned Paragon's tech support, and was told Nisus could print out a color PICT, but he frankly seemed uncertain about it. A decision whether or not to spring for a color printer will be heavily influenced by the answer. BTW, the min. system requirement of 2Mb for System 7.0 is really misleading. Sure, it'll work, just the same way Multifinder just barely does, but you can't open much of anything, let alone use 'em. My dealer told me you need at least 5Mb to get decent performance. Quite a difference between 2 and 5. Connie K. Cho ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 8:44:38 PDT From: doug@nisd.cam.unisys.com (Doug Hardie) Subject: Disinfectant Init I recall reading that the latest version of Disinfectant Init would work with System 7 by placing it in the System folder, not the lower folders. I tried that and inserted a disk with WDEF. It did not find it. When I do the same on System 6.0.7 I get a lot of beeps and a useful dialog message. Apparently I misread the original note for System 7. Could someone tell me how to make it work. Thanks, -- Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 19:11:32 +0200 From: adam%TNOAL1.TNO.NL@pucc.princeton.edu Subject: DISKFIT and AppleShare volumes Guenther, We are using DiskFit 2.0 and... same thing here... No way to backup AppleShare volumes.. Regards, Adam van Gaalen Adam van Gaalen (adam@tnoal1.tno.nl) ------------------------------ Date: 30 May 91 15:16:10 U From: "Glenn Fleishman" <Glenn_Fleishman@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu> Subject: Error 39 Subject: Time:3:12 PM OFFICE MEMO Error 39 Date:5/30/91 When trying to launch applications or open desk accessories under System 7, I occasionally get the message "Error -39" and it won't open. If I reboot, all is well. What's the story? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 11:08:57 MST From: Ben Goren <AUBXG%ASUACAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Force Quit from the Finder From: Ben Goren You probably don't need to add a "Quit" to the Finder, as you can "Force Quit" (cmd-opt-esc) from it. I'm not sure that the Finder stays "quitted," but it will at least re-launch it. b& Ben Goren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 91 11:04 +02:00 From: DALFE%TRBOUN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Freedom of Press Lite Hi, I need to print PS on my HP DeskWriter. I already got TScript, but it is painfully slow and a bit hard to use with a HP DW (you have to save the PS first and print it in a separate operation). Anyway, I would like to try Freedom of Press Lite (i.e. the cheap version!) Could somebody tell me if it supports HP DeskWriter? Any comments on its speed and ease of use will be appreciated too. Thanks Nuzhet DALFES Bogazici Uinversity Istanbul, TURKIYE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 91 08:26 EST From: STEEVES%STETSON.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: getting sys7.0 >From: Emmanuel CASTRO <CASTRO%FRMOP11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> >Subject: System 7 ? >I just need to need a little thing. >Where can I find System 7 ? >I could not localize it on ftp.apple.com >Can someone help me ? One week ago yesterday (23.5.91), against my better judgment, I yielded to overwhelming temptation and decided to adventure into the snares of System 7.0. I was fascinated by the challenge of whether an avid Mac user who is a computer clutz (I'm a history professor) could achieve happiness in downloading something so complicated. It took exactly one week and many fits and starts: I started over several times and threw many fits. Again and again I cried out: why doesn't anyone give complete and clear instructions? And then when I got something to work I said, why didn't they just say so? In an attempt to help others I summarize below my lessons for people who want to get system 7.0 through BITFTP. 1. Request System 7.0 in two steps, because only five files will be sent on one request. 2. Request 8 files from ftp.apple.com for system 7. 3. BITFTP breaks 3 files into two parts. They must be merged before they can be unpacked. 4. To make the received files useable, three steps must be completed: they must be unbinhexed--use BINHEX 4.0 (in Stuffit Classic) they must be unstuffed--use Stuffit Classic they must be unimaged--use Diskcopy 5. Commence installation by starting up with Install.1 disk--BE SURE DISK IS LOCKED. Follow all instructions on screen thereafter. I found that System 7.0 installed fine and was fully operational. NOTES: Here is the script to accomplish nos. 1 & 2 send it to BITNET%"BITFTP@PUCC" FTP ftp.apple.com USR anonymous CD /dts/mac/system7/7.0.software/800k.images GET install-1-image.hqx GET install-2-image.hqx GET install-3-image.hqx GET disk-tools-imagel.hqx GET font-image-hqx GET more-tidbits-image.hqx GET print-image.hqx GET tidbits-image.hqx QUIT But remember to send it in two messages with no more than five GET's in each. BITFTP will inform of the changes in names that occur in the process of downloading. It also sends a control file for each of the three files that it breaks up, which informs of the identification of these. Here is the script to get Diskcopy: FTP ftp.apple.com USR anonymous CD /dts/utils GET diskcopy-4-2-readme.txt GET diskcopy-4-2.hqx QUIT After I got System 7.0 running I had great fun with it. But soon I became aware of why I might not stick with it. For my purposes it does not save time. 1. Switching disks used to be a one-step operation on 6.0.7. Now it is a two-step operation: click Desktop, select Disk. 2. Switching applications used to be a one-step operation. Now it is two. Click Icon, select application. 3. Trashing files used to be a one-step operation. Now it is two: move file to trashcan; empty trash. 4. Printing Best quality (Imagewriter II, MSWord 4.0) takes an eternity--or at least 5 minutes per page. 5. Hypercard (less than 2.1) won't work with it. I use Hypercard a great deal and I need to use lower than 2.1. 6. Overview won't work with it. ditto. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 17:05:56 From: rhz@cwns4.ins.cwru.edu (Hobbes) Subject: HC Performance Does anyone know or have a benchmark test of Hypercard performance as the number of cards (and/or bitmaps) increase? I am creating a stack which will need to handle anywhere between a couple hundred to millions of cards/bitmaps. If necessary, I will split it up into many stacks in order to aid performance. Also is there some kind of relation between the number of cards/bitmaps and amount of disk space? Please reply directly to rhz@po.cwru.edu If there is interest, I will sum it up. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 11:30:45 -0400 From: bww@po.cwru.edu (Brian W. Wolf) Subject: Imagewriter Magnet Expensive Fix Well, I got ahold of my apple dealer, and they told me that I could purchase the magnet which was lost, for a mere $36.00. This is just a little info for anyone that was interested.> ------------------------------ Date: 30 May 1991 08:34:06 CDT From: U49852%UICVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Inside Mac DA Author Does anyone know how to contact Bernard Gallet, author of the Inside Mac DA? I sent him the shareware fee for version 2 of this DA and have not heard anything. Thanks. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 91 09:06 GMT From: RLAHTINEN@uku.fi Subject: LaserWriter 6.1 question Hello netters! I've a simple question. I'm using LaserWriter 6.1 and I'd like to know, how to change paper default in the Page Setup dialog. The default is "US Letter", but I always use "A4 Letter". I've ResEdit 2.1, but I don't know which resource to modify and how (I feel quite novice with ResEdit). Thanks in advance! Internet: rlahtinen@kylk36.uku.fi, BITNET: rlahtine@finkuo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 13:35:47 CDT From: GEOFFREY PARSONS <parsons%WKUVX1.bitnet@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: MODE32 >Apple HAS a current solution for your IIcx, it's called a IIfx upgrade, >and they keep lowering the price (eventually you may find the upgrade >worthwhile). Well it's called a IIci upgrade... You can't upgrade from a IIcx to a IIfx. One question -- Why did apple put a ROM SIMM slot on all the class two macs (SE/30, II, IIx, IIcx, etc.) if they didn't intend in upgrading the ROM? It also seems strange to put the ROM SIMM slot on the mother board if you are going to offer ROM "upgrades" via board swaps. Why not just leave the ROM SIMM slot off? It's seems really stupid to me that my IIcx could have 128Mb on the mother board, but my old ROMS prevent this. Just as system software has to be updated >From time to time so do ROMs. The real reason Apple hasn't offered an upgrade is clone fear. Apple, do the right thing and release new ROMs. BTW, what are SE/30 owners suppose to do? Last question -- If MODE32 is such a good solution, why didn't apple just include such a patch in the system patches of system 7? Geoffrey Parsons ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 13:31 EST From: PCONTI%OBERLIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: seeking Varityper Toolkit Has anyone already downloaded from ZMac Ken Winograd's free application Varityper Toolkit (stored in ZMac's Library 1-Applications as VARITY.SIT)? If so, could you either submit it to the sumex archives or e-mail a copy to me? Thanks very much. --Carol Conti-Entin pconti@oberlin (bitnet); pconti@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 21:54:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Nico Tjandra <nt05+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Shanghai and 12" color monitor I have a 12" apple monitor and shanghai 2.0. When I run it in B&W the tiles size fit the screen perfectly. However when I choose color tiles it goes off the screen and it is very annoying. I tried to change it using ResEdit 2.1 but I have nolock so far. If anybody could help or give suggestion, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Nico: nt05@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 15:00:44 CDT From: THE GAR <GLWARNER%SAMFORD.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Software Inventory? Does anyone know of a package that will assist in inventorying the software on Macintoshes? How about a package that will list a hardware configuration to diskette? We will be performing an inventory this summer, and need to identify all major software packages on our computers. Ideally, the program would write the titles/versions/serial numbers to diskette, in records that included a machine identifier of some sort. We will be compiling this data for use in a database on our mainframe. Please let me know if you have suggestions. I work for a non-profit organization....Price is DEFINITELY a concern. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 17:03 MST From: "The Moderators <INFOMACR%CMSNAMES@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>" <INFOMACR%CMSNAMES@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Suggestion for file sharing utility Here's a suggestion for a file sharing utility I'm sure many people out there would love to use: Place a small icon in the menu bar to indicate when somebody is connected to the Mac. This should also be a menu which will list all the shared volumes in use; from that a pop-up menu listing connected users. Releasing the mouse on one of the volumes should bring up the "Sharing..." window from the finder; releasing the mouse on one of the users should bring up a window which shows the user name, the chooser name and AppleTalk zone (if possible), how long that user's been on, a log file showing all activity (a la GateKeeper), a way to send a message (if possible), and a button that will disconnect that user with an option to not allow that user to connect again. Of course, everything configurable (like whether or not to save the log to a text file). Any takers? Of course, I'd be glad to be a beta tester/consultant/whatever, and I could handle some of the minor design problems (like creating an icon, for example). I'd do it myself, but I've never programmed on the Mac before, and I've only had limited programming experience otherwise. Please let me know if you'd like to try something like this. b& ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 10:13:02 CDT From: hallett@positron.com (Jeff Hallett 548-5163 ) Subject: Suitcase II & Sys7.0 I am a little confused... Since Fonts and DA's are available immediately by dropping them into the System Folder (DA's -> Apple Menu folder), why does one need Suitcase II? Further, how does one make use of sounds and FKEYs? Are they available by just placing them into a special place within the System folder? Does the new Finder have sound hooks ala SoundMaster (or does SoundMaster work)? Thanks in advance Jeff Hallett, GEMS PET Engineering, 414/548-5163, hallett@enterprise.med.ge.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 91 09:05:50 SDT From: ALexander Falk <FALK2%EDVZ.UNI-Linz.AC.@@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Super Boomerang Super Boomerang is now part of the "Now Utilities 2.0" package, which also contains a couple of other neat utilities (but most of them currentlty don't work under System 7.0: NowMenus [formerly called hierDA], MultiMaster, ....). This software package is available through dealers and mail-order sources. My personal experience: since I've been using 7.0 beta versions since last December I haven't been using any one of the Now Utilities except Super Boomerang, which has worked remarkably well for me (the only problems I've found so far under 7.0 are of cosmetic nature). And I, too, wouldn't want to live without it. It's definitely worth its price and I'm looking forward to a new version of the entire Now Utilities package that is compatible with 7.0. (A)(L)exander (F)alk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 09:42:12 EDT From: berry@a.chem.upenn.edu (Donald H. Berry) Subject: Sys 7 & Sys 6.x on the same Local Talk net According to the July issue of MacUser, Macs running 7.0 and 6.x can peacefully co-exist and share the same printer (without repeated printer restarts) by having the 6.x machine using special versions of the Laserprep and Laserwriter files. There are two ways to accomplish this: (1) a special installer which can install the 7.0 driver on a 6.x system or (2) version 6.1 of the files, which can just be dropped into the System Folder. The Problem: the special installer is distributed only with the Group upgrade package, so I don't think it's available through ftp.apple.com. Furthermore, I've never seen a copy of Laserwriter and Laserprep v 6.1. Version 6.02 was included as an option (in the Apple Color folder) on the System 6.0.7 installation disks. I tried using v 6.0.2, but the those printer restarts just keep coming. Does anyone know where I can get the v 6.1 or the "special" installer? Don Berry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 15:42:44 PDT From: Jesse_M._Evans.El_Segundo@xerox.com Subject: System 7.0 and file sharing... Hi, folks. I'm now the proud owner of a IIsi and I'd like to hook up a mini-net between it and my old Mac, which is an original 128K upgraded several times so that it is now a 1M Mac Plus. The file-sharing capabilities of Sys7 sounds like just the thing I need but, so far, all references I've seen to Sys7 indicate a minimum RAM of 2M, which seems to rule out upgrading my old Mac. Is there a minimum configuration of Sys7 that will fit in 1M of RAM, or is there another way of connecting these two machines? I'm mostly interested in sharing files without resorting to dancing the floppy shuffle. Although I've been reading the digest for sometime now, this is my first post. I'm sure there must be a Mac guru out there who can help me out. Many thanks in advance for your efforts. 'til next we type HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 10:04 EST From: B_DOHERTY@cc.brynmawr.edu Subject: System7/Jasmine Driver Hello. This is a summary of responses I received regarding my inquiry about trouble I was having with trying to start up my SE w/ a Jasmine hard disk under System 7. Solution is pretty simple. I was using driver version 1.094, current one is 1.79 and Jasmine tells me a new one (for which they will want $20) is due out in about a week. Someone was nice enough to send me version 1.79 of the Driveware. I now have it up and running, and now even the used and available memory add up to an appropriate number, though the source of this strangeness is still unknown. Also, it should perhaps be mentioned that an installation help file I got >From Compuserve indicates that Apple's hard disk utility should not be used on Jasmine drives. Apparently problems can arise, I don't know the details or the accuarcy of this but figure I'm better off that way as compared to knowing >From experience. (To clarify, this means the hd set up program from Apple) Also it appears that some of this info was in Macweek, regarding the need for a more recent version of the driver. Thanks for all the helpful responses. --Brian (B_Doherty@cc.BrynMawr.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 18:32:19 EDT From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Subject: System 7 and system 6 on two partitions? In the last info-mac, krk.wbst102a@xerox.com writes: [about having System 6 & 7 on two different partitions] >Problems: > >1.) In the Control Panel, when I select partition 1 as the "Startup >Device" and close and reopen the Control Panel, it always goes back to both >partitions selected. I think this is because "Device" is more or less equal to SCSI device, so all the mounted partitions on that drive will be the "startup device". As for which partition will start on a partitioned device, I'm not sure, but I think I remember reading that the one which is alphabetically first with a system installed will start. I won't swear to that though. If it's true, though, you should be able to rename your partitions to select the boot drive (Name the one you want to boot "A" and the other "Z", for example). There's another way, though, see below. > >2.) When I select partion 2/Finder in "Special Menu/Select Startup" and >Restart, it always starts up partition 1 instead. Select Startup under the Special Menu in the finder just selects whether the Mac will start with Finder or Multifinder, or some app. It doesn't select the drive. It says, "The next time you start with that drive, do this". What I suggest you do is find some way to have one of your partitions NOT mount at startup. Then, just set the partition you want to boot from to mount, and the other to NOT mount, and boot. Then, you need to have a way to mount the other partition after boot. With SilverLining, there's a DA. I'm not familiar with the software you're using, so I don't know how it handles that. Hope that's helpful! --Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 16:48:34 -0700 From: c9e-bx@volga.berkeley.edu (Timothy Suh) Subject: system 7 errors I have been running across some error messages and was wondering if someone could enlighten me on their meaning. Although somewhat better than the old BOMB....ID=33, these new messages are still somewhat cryptic.... What do these mean? Error of Type 1 has occured... Type 2, Type 3 Bad F line instruction Finally, the control-option-escape trick to exit out of hung applications works most of the time, but for more severely stuck programs, I have found hitting the interrupt switch and typing in G FINDER at the > prompt will sometimes get you out of programs which the control-option-escape will not. -tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 15:11 GMT+1 From: FRICCI@polito.it Subject: Teleport Modem I'd like to thank Steve Smith (SMITH@Uclastro.Bitnet), John I. Quebedeaux, Jr (SNJQJR@Lsuvm.Bitnet), Christopher Doemel (DOEMELC@Wabash.Bitnet), Alex Daniel 'Quad' Alegado (AALEGADO@nike.calpoly.edu), Larry Smith (LARRY@physics.ph.utexas.edu), THOMAS_F@eldi.epfl.ch (and all those whose messages I haven't received yet) for having sent me information about the Teleport Modem. It seems to be a very good modem - with MNP4, MNP5 and SendFax capability. It operates at 2400 baud and it is controlled via the menubar, where it displays a 'status' bar. You can tell it to show more or less info; this bar is actually a pop-up menu, from which you can control the baud rate, compression, error-checking, etc. Now, the tech part: its INIT (which, in its latest version, is compatible with System 7.0 and very stable) patches some Manager so that it'll seem to be using one of the serial ports, so your communications programs will have no problems recognizing it. Otherwise, it can use the Communications Toolbox. But - a question - does using the Communications Toolbox 'create' a third 'C' port? If this is the case, I'm going to buy it: this modem will be used as a third modem on a BBS, and if it makes one of the serial ports 'busy', it becomes useless. The Teleport also has fax capability, as mentioned earlier, and faxes are sent by the chooser, I think just 'printing' a document. So... I think it's a wonderful modem. Unless you _must_ use your other two serial ports... if this is the case... we'll see. I don't know yet if it's possible. - Alberto Ricci. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 13:13:31 CDT From: GEOFFREY PARSONS <parsons%WKUVX1.bitnet@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: THINK C 5.0 I have found out two things about the next release of THINK C... 1. It will NOT support C++. 2. Full ANSI support. (4.0 was missing some things...) So C++ is not in the near future of THINK C. Sorry. Geoffrey Parsons ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 91 10:59 +02:00 From: DALFE%TRBOUN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Where to get TT Init? Hi Netters, Could somebody tell me where to get TrueType INIT? And will it work with 6.0.5? Thanks Nuzhet DALFES Bogazici University Istanbul, TURKIYE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 91 10:21:07 PLT From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> Subject: Your Question: dragging objects in hypercard You mgiht try downloading the Developer's Stack from sumex-aim.stanford.edu. There is a button called "Slider" in there which shows an approach to doing what you want. There's also a lot of other useful stuff. If you can't download, e-mail me and I'll copy the script of the button up to my mainframe and e-mail it to you. -- Joshua Yeidel, Academic Computing Services, Washington State University ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************