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Info-Mac Digest Sun, 2 Jun 91 Volume 9 : Issue 126 Today's Topics: [*] Julia's Dream v1.07r [*] SoundMover 1.7 Package: Compacted & Stuffed [*] Termulator - a mac terminal emulator A suggestion for a file sharing utility Boomerang and Shareware Compatibility between Mac CD-ROM and Sun-Sparc ? Couple of questions: Graphic Comm Hard drive info Laser printer info Macintosh Faxes MacTCP Networking and relational database programs...help! Possible bug with Type on Call Printing spooling and system 7 Sys 7 & Sys 6.x on the same Local Talk net TrueType and 6.07 Virtual Memory - don't be afraid if you can't use it The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 May 91 01:40:12 +0100 From: reinoud@duteca4.et.tudelft.nl (R. Lamberts) Subject: [*] Julia's Dream v1.07r This is Julia's Dream, a program that generates high-quality Julia set images in real time. (A Julia set is a beautiful fractal 'dragon', related to the Mandelbrot set.) A plain Mac II calculates a 512 * 512 image in about 2 seconds; smaller images even allow for animation. Just pick a parameter in the complex plane with your mouse, and the associated Julia set pops up. Julia's Dream uses a new algorithm, the details of which I hope to publish as soon as possible. Julia's Dream requires at least a 68020 and Color QuickDraw; it is free for non-commercial use. Enjoy! I'd like to hear from you if you like Julia's Dream! - Reinoud [Archived as /info-mac/app/julias-dream-107.hqx; 76K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 12:41:11 PDT From: JMUELLER%PPL.ESNET@esnmrg.nersc.gov Subject: [*] SoundMover 1.7 Package: Compacted & Stuffed This is the complete (unlike my previous attempted posting) SoundMover 1.7 Package. Enjoy. Jim Mueller [Archived as /info-mac/sound/program/sound-mover-17.hqx; 122K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 91 16:31:53 EDT From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (James Stricherz) Subject: [*] Termulator - a mac terminal emulator Termulator is a terminal emulator that supports: -scripting -vt100 emulation [I use it with emacs on unix boxes successfully] -xmodem, zmodem transfer protocols [but not kermit!] It's shareware, and I got it from Genie. It's in a CompactorPro SelfExtracting Archive. James Stricherz stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu [Archived as /info-mac/comm/termulator.hqx; 116K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jun 91 18:33:17 MST From: Ben Goren <AUBXG%ASUACAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: A suggestion for a file sharing utility From: Ben Goren I sent this message a day or so ago, but somehow my return address got garbled the first time. Regardless of what it says above, send all mail to me at: aubxg@asuvm.inre.asu.edu or aubxg@asuacad.bitnet Here's a suggestion for a file sharing utility I'm sure many people out there would love to use: Place a small icon in the menu bar to indicate when somebody is connected to the Mac. This should also be a menu which will list all the shared volumes in use; from that a pop-up menu listing connected users. Releasing the mouse on one of the volumes should bring up the "Sharing..." window from the finder; releasing the mouse on one of the users should bring up a window which shows the user name, the chooser name and AppleTalk zone (if possible), how long that user's been on, a log file showing all activity (a la GateKeeper), a way to send a message (if possible), and a button that will disconnect that user with an option to not allow that user to connect again. Of course, everything configurable (like whether or not to save the log to a text file). Any takers? Of course, I'd be glad to be a beta tester/consultant/whatever, and I could handle some of the minor design problems (like creating an icon, for example). I'd do it myself, but I've never programmed on the Mac before, and I've only had limited programming experience otherwise. Please let me know if you'd like to try something like this. b& ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jun 91 03:18:42 PDT From: hayp04@csa1.lbl.gov Subject: Boomerang and Shareware I, Hiro Yamamoto, author of Boomerang, would like to reply to the message by PUGH%CCV.ESNET@ccc.nersc.go about Boomerang and Shareware. PUGH%CCV.ESNET@ccc.nersc.gov says: -----> I disagree with Chuq about people using Boomerang without paying for it. As a Shareware author (I have received more checks than 5) I don't think you should even consider releasing something as Shareware without agreeing that people can and will use it without paying. <----- Please read my manual. It does not threaten you that you have to pay $30 if you use more than 30 days, or like that. Without manual and Help file, you will never know that it is a shareware, and it costs $30. Only in the control panel, you will notice it is written by me. I know that people will use it without paying for it. (But, please read below.) I think I made my request for the shareware payments quite polite. If you like it and think it is reasonable, please pay. If you kindly pay me the shareware fee, I will send you the future upgrades, so I sent Boomerang 2.1 and Super Boomerang. And Super Boomerang has some problems with System 7, I released Super Boomerang Fixer. BTW, when I found a minor bug of Boomerang 2.0, I publicly distributed Boomeranr 2.0.1 and 2.0.2, so that Boomerang will work without problems. He continues ----> This is called an understanding of human nature. <---- There is another point of view about human nature. This is the opinion of the author of JoliWrite, a French Musician. In France, many commercial products are copy protected. That means, software publishers do no believe the honesty of human being. He, and at least several French people I talked with, do not like it, hate it. JoliWrite, a word processor which has nice features which do not exist in commercial products, is distributed as a shareware, because he wants to believe in human nature. He said shareware is a battle against the copy protection. Continues ----> There are two ways to "combat" this and get people to send in your money. The first is upgrades, a proven technique, while the other is prayer, and all I can say is that it hasn't worked for me. ;^) <---- Boomerang 2.0 is a fully functional, not a demo, version. I put everything I could put in at that time (long before the Sys7 release, so I could not make it Sys7 savvy utility.). All reasonable requests I got during the beta test were built in. I tried to made it solid. Fortunately, and somehow surprisingly, Boomerang 2.0 was quite solid, and survived over 1 and half years. The review in MacWeek said it is very solid, where the commerical product competitor compared in the same article is rated to be solid. And, please compare Boomerang 2.0 and ShortCut 1.0. I don't think the equation is B2.0<<SC1.0. To me, MacWeek and MacUser (Bobker's dozen) said B2.0>=SC1.0. What I want to say is, Boomerang 2.0 is not something like, "OK this is a buggy limited version and pay me to get a stable full version". Boomerang 2.0.* was THE BEST VERSION I could release until the relase of Boomerang 2.1 in Aug. 90. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT IT WORKED FOR ME. "IT" means shareware. I don't mean I got million dollars. The golden rule, shareware payment is 1%, applied to Boomerang as well. But, I got registrations saying that they are satisfied with Boomerang, with encounragements and kind words. And those who registered in the first several months after the shareware release did not expect much about the upgrade service. This is not my optimistic hope, but the truth. Continues ----> Anyone who expects people to not use a Shareware product is both deluding themselves and making criminals. Giving something away for free and then demanding payment is against the law in most states. Making unenforceable laws is unethical and bad news, and I think _demanding_ money for Shareware is akin to this. You are a guest in someone's computer and you should be polite and ask, not demand. It just rankles me to get these dialogs boxes that spout on like I am doing now. Sorry. <---- Please read my comments above. I did not DEMAND any. I did not put any dialog DEMANDING money. I even did not put the statement of the shareware in the program. I know the dialogs are annoying, and these stuffs make the program unnecessarily larger. I hate that, so I did not do that. If you say that the upgrade service only to the registered users is a criminal, then yes I am a bad criminal. But, with the help of the shareware payments, I could make the upgrade. I could fix a really tough bug which showed up only on special hardware configurations. I could test Boomerang with more programs than I can usually access. These tests made me possible to release more stable Boomerant 2.0.2, which is publicly distributed. One problem of shareware is, when the user had any trouble or question or whatever, it is hard to communicate with the author. I made it clear where to contact, phone, FAX and E-mail. When I got a phone call in my home answer machine, I called back even if it was from a foregin country. When I got a mail asking questions, I replied asap. I did these regardless if he/she is a registered user or not. All these were possible with the help of registered users. I sent them Boomeranr 2.1 and Super Boomerang, and I did not distribute these version in public. Am I a criminal, do I have to go to the police station ? Final words come here ---> Final words, if you have a Shareware program that you want to sell, then sell the damn thing. If you want to give it away, do it as Shareware. You can make money on it, but you have to be good. I think anyone who creates decent Shareware deserves everything they can get, plus some. I just don't think they have the right to demand it. I would be making millions on my Shareware if there weren't so many pirates out there among you! ;^) It sounds like a stupid argument to me too. <---- Please, please read and understand what the author of JoliWrite says. Only word I would like to add is, I am very happy that I did release Boomerang as a shareware. Hiro Yamamoto / author of Boomerang ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jun 91 23:40:31 +0200 From: "Pol A. JAMAGNE (LEMA - Universite de Liege)" <U517101%BLIULG11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Compatibility between Mac CD-ROM and Sun-Sparc ? Does anybody knows if it is possible to use a Macintosh CD-ROM with a Sun Sparc Workstation or a Sun CD-ROM with a Macintosh ? Pol A. JAMAGNE - LEMA-ULG (U517101@BLIULG11) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jun 91 10:27:41 -0600 From: wieser@acs.ucalgary.ca (Bernie Wieser) Subject: Couple of questions: I have a lot of small questions to which e-mail response is appreciated; 1) I need comprehensive information on SLIP client/servers for Macintosh and (GASP) PCs, especially where they are available from. My overall goal is to try and connect a lab I work in to the local internet mail system. References to articles are also appreciated. (The other goal is to use X windows remotely on a PC). 2) Has anyone noticed that the PICT code for frameRect under system 7.0, when used in a dialogue, is filled in? This should not happen. 3) A person who pays me $ complained that macro-maker is no longer supported under system 7.0. Is this true? (I never used it myself.) 4) When is Apple coming out with an international keyboard map fix (and will it be posted?) 5) Is MCN actually worth joining? Thanks in advance. Bernie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jun 91 21:35:14 +0200 From: kobi@bimacs.cs.biu.ac.il (sambrano Kobi) Subject: Graphic Comm Hello Netters! I'm looking for a communications software which will allow a graphic mode, like the one in SmartCom II. Any takers? kobi@bimacs.cs.biu.ac.il ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jun 91 16:54:44 EDT From: jyoo@elbereth.rutgers.edu (J-S Yoo) Subject: Hard drive info Hi again, What does it mean that Brand A hard drive uses Quantum (drive) mechanism? Who makes the hard drive, the product I'll receive when I buy? If the drives have the same (Quantum) mechanism, why are there difference of several megabytes in capacity and several hundred dollars in price? A salesperson told me that Quantum 105 is the one being supplied by Apple. Any comments? There are Quntum 105 and Quantum 105 LPS. Except the price, what is the difference between them? Finally I opt for external hard drive. What are the advantage and disadvantage of having an internal hard drive? The one difficulty that pops into my mind is the installation for the inter- nal drive. Any comments? Thank you and be advised that I used the name Quantum as an specific example. Please e-mail your response. -- p.s. Do you have a recommendation on specific hard drive mail-order firm? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jun 91 15:56:58 EDT From: jyoo@elbereth.rutgers.edu (J-S Yoo) Subject: Laser printer info Hi, We're in the market for the laser printer, so your inputs will be greatly appreciated. Basically we're looking for something comparable to Apple's LaserWriter IINT: lower priced one with similar capability or similarly priced one with better capability. We saw good reviews about TI MicroLaser and QMS PS 410 (turbo?). Do you have any experiences with these printers? Even after counting Apple's educational discount, Apple's is a good several hundred dollars pricier. Thank you and please e-mail -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jun 91 08:00:46 +0300 From: "David L. Hirschberg" <BNHIRSCH%WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Macintosh Faxes Dear Netters, I would like to get more information about computer faxes and their software. Our department currently has a stand alone fax machine. What we would like to do is get a computer fax that could send out our fascimiles at night when the rates are cheaper in Israel. The problem is that most of the people in out department send fascimiles that are hand written or at least signed. If we bought a computer fax, would it be possible to send all the non-computer generated faxes to the mac and then send them out with the computer fax at night? I would like to hear from someone who is doing this or has a better solution. Thank you in advance for your help. David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jun 91 10:58:52 CDT From: ECPKLINE%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: MacTCP Hello Netters, I have a few questions about MacTCP. --First can MacTCP be used by a single-user, at home using __a standard 2400 baud modem. I am running a Mac SE, 2.5megs --SYS 7 (Yay! 7.0), and Kermit software. Or, does MacTCP --require a network environment? --How does MacTCP work? I am already aware of how to get the software, through apple. I was hoping to get my university to buy a site liscense or somesuch, but I will not bother if it can only be used through a network environment or if it cannot be used by me at home. Thanks in advance. Please e-mail direct, I will summarize. Jeff Kline (ecpkline@UMCVMB.Missouri.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jun 91 19:01 EDT From: DRBH@db1.cc.rochester.edu Subject: Networking and relational database programs...help! I recently networked two Macs in my lab and one in my office via a TOPS system. The major motivation for the network was to permit all of us to have access to the same database of bacterial strains and plasmids, and to avoid the problem of duplicate but non-identical copies of the database files. I now have discovefred that my program, REFLEX PLUS from BORLAND does not permit files to be opened over the network. I have been told by one company that in order to use a relational database in the way that I need that I will have to dedicatge one computer exclusively as a server for that database management program. Obviously that is absurd for a 3 computer network. Does anyhbody know of any relational database program that will allow the files to be opened, searched, and modified over the TOPS network? There is no need for more than one node to have access at the same time, in fact that would not even be very desirable. I understand that I can solve the problem by using a flat-file database, but that will not really meet my needs. Thanks. Barry Hall ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1991 19:45:40 -0600 From: djsx@midway.uchicago.edu Subject: Possible bug with Type on Call I just received my copy of the Adobe Type on Call CD and am very much pleased with it, although it takes a loooong time for the printer font partition to mount and open (must be due to the encryption). I noticed a minor but irritating problem, though. I replaced my copy of ATM 1.2 with ATM 2.0 from the CD-ROM, and copied the Type on Call init to my system folder. I registered my disk and claimed my two free font packages with no problem. Then I opened MS Word 4.0 and tried to use my new fonts only to encounter the jaggies! Rebooting several times did nothing, until I noticed that the Type on Call icon appeared during startup, and the icon for ATM did not! I then surmised that if I changed the name of Type on Call, things might work. Thus I added a tilde before the name "Type on Call" (a la ~ATM) and rebooted. This time ~ATM _did_ load, followed by Type on Call. Peace finally reigns (for the moment). This happens with both system 6.0.5 and 6.0.7; I will check this with 7.0 in a few minutes and add a follow-up to this post. If ATM loads before TOC, everything is fine; if TOC loads before ATM, ATM does _not_ load at startup. Is this a bug, a quirk with my machine, or something already known by the high exalted postscript priests at Adobe? I am using a Mac IIci with 4M memory, systems 6 & 7, Gatekeeper and a couple of other inits (one being TOPS, which the manual says must load first, if I remember right (the manual is at home)). If anyone else notices this please post, else send e-mail to tell me that I am crazy! More later... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jun 91 14:46:08 -0400 From: kroch@change.ling.upenn.edu Subject: Printing spooling and system 7 I have been happily using the multispool init to spool to my deskwriter under system 6. As far as I can tell, it won't work under system 7. Is there a utility that does print spooling available that runs under system 7? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jun 91 12:09:47 EDT From: phssra@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson) Subject: Sys 7 & Sys 6.x on the same Local Talk net > According to the July issue of MacUser, Macs running 7.0 and 6.x > can peacefully co-exist and share the same printer (without repeated > printer restarts) by having the 6.x machine using special versions of > the Laserprep and Laserwriter files.... > The Problem: the special installer is distributed only with the > Group upgrade package, so I don't think it's available through > ftp.apple.com. Maybe I'm speaking too soon, but just yesterday I went around to all of our Macs and installed the System 7 printer stuff on them. I just used the installer that came on the Printing disk, and it appears to have upgraded LaserWriter, PrintMonitor, and Backgrounder, and removed LaserPrep. I'm not sure what other changes (if any) it made, e.g. to the System. So far, everybody seems to be printing just fine. The Caveat: noone has upgraded to System 7 yet, we are running various releases of System 6.0.x. By the way, we have had a couple of application-specific problems: SuperPaint 2.0 seems to have trouble printing with the new driver, and equations created by MathType (2.0.6, I believe) and pasted into Word are squeezed or omitted if they are on the first page. Does anyone have any suggestions for work-arounds? Scott Robert Anderson phssra@emoryu1.{cc.emory.edu,bitnet} gatech!emoryu1!phssra ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jun 91 14:43:33 EDT From: xli%mcs.drexel.edu@ricevm1.rice.edu (Xing Li) Subject: TrueType and 6.07 Hi, I posted a question yesterday and asked how to get TrueType INIT in order to use TrueType fonts in a Mac running system 6.07. The following is the answer. I got the TrueType INIT from ftp.apple.com in the directory "/dts/mac/sys.soft/truetype", which contains the following files mac-printing-tools.hqx personal-lw-ls-install.hqx stylewriter-install.hqx truetype-fonts-1-0.hqx The TrueType INIT is hidden in "personal-lw-ls-install.hqx" and "stylewriter-install.hqx". I installed the INIT and the "truetype-fonts-1-0" in a MacPlus with 2.5 Mb RAM running 6.07. It works great. Xing ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jun 91 08:47:21 SDT From: ALexander Falk <FALK2%EDVZ.UNI-Linz.AC.@@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Virtual Memory - don't be afraid if you can't use it Someone recently expressed his concern that there will be some future applications that might require virtual memory and will thus not run on a Mac Plus, Classic, SE, Portable, II, or LC. While it is true that you need either a 68030 processor or a combination of 68020 processor and 68551 PMMU (paged memory management unit) to be able to use virtual memory (i.e. you need to be the proud owner of a IIx, IIcx, IIci, IIsi, IIfx, or SE/30), the virtual memory technique is competely handled by System 7.0 and requires no interaction by the application program. In other words, if you have set up virtual memory to use 12MB of your hard disk as memory (let's say you "only" have 5MB of real memory), all the applications on your Mac will be tricked to think that you actually have 12MB of memory. If we suppose that your System needs 1.5MB, you have 10.5MB available for applications and can now either set the memory size of one big application to 10MB (e.g. Mathematica or some memory-hungry ray-tracing 3D package) in the "Get Info" box in the Finder, or you can open multiple smaller applications (e.g. MS Word, MacDraw II, Excel, etc.). No matter which way you choose, none of the applications will ever need to know that you only have 5MB of real memory and the rest comes from the hard disk. Moreover, the applications don't have to be rewritten or upgraded to support virtual memory. As a result, there will be NO future application that will REQUIRE virtual memory in order to run! There might, I should add, be some applications that will eventually require 8MB to run, but they certainly will not care if it is real or virtual memory that they get to use... Oh, by the way, some applications (e.g. hard disk utilities or some backup software, which directly use the SCSI Manager) might actually not be compatible with virtual memory and will need to be upgraded, but they, too, will certainly never require virtual memory to run! (A)(L)exander (F)alk ------------------------------ Date: 01 Jun 91 12:23:23 UT From: J.COOK@ens.prime.com I've run the compatibility checker, but it did not check the rev of my disk driver utility - probably no information was available when it was put together. MacWeek did publish a couple articles (30-Apr-91 and 7-May-91) on System 7 and third-party disk driver compatibility. A number of people asked about these articles, but there have not been any responses, so I thought I'd post an excerpt - the two compatibility tables. As this is a brief excerpt, this should be legitimate with regard to copyright laws. Neither I, nor Prime, nor Apple, nor MacWeek makes any claims regarding the accuracy of the following information nor are we responsible for any errors, typographic or otherwise. For up to date copies of the drivers, see your drive salesperson or the manufacturer. Please don't send email to me - I don't know any more than what you see here. Important: See notes and asterisk (*) explanations at the bottom. Drive vendor: Alliance Peripheral Systems Current Utility Version: Alliance Power Tools 1.13 Required for System 7: 1.1 or later Required for full VM: 2.0 *** Upgrade Cost: Not set Drive vendor: Club Mac Current Utility Version: SCSI Director 1.72 Required for System 7: 1.65 or later Required for full VM: 1.65 or later Upgrade Cost: $10 Drive vendor: CMS Enhancements Current Utility Version: CMS SCSI Utilities 6.0.4 Required for System 7: 6.0 or later Required for full VM: 6.1 *** Upgrade Cost: free or $25 Drive vendor: DJK Development Current Utility Version: SCSI Director Professional 1.7.2 Required for System 7: SDSI Director 1.6 or later Required for full VM: 1.6 or later Upgrade Cost: Free Drive vendor: Ehman Current Utility Version: DHH Formatter 3.27 Required for System 7: 3.0 or later Required for full VM: 3.4 *** Upgrade Cost: not set Drive vendor: GCC Technologies Current Utility Version: Drive Manager 6.3 Required for System 7: 7.0 *** Required for full VM: 3.4 *** Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: HDI/Wholesale 54 Current Utility Version: Disk Manager Mac 2.25 Required for System 7: 2.24 Required for full VM: 2.24 Upgrade Cost: Free Drive vendor: Jasmine Technologies Current Utility Version: DriveWare 1.79 Required for System 7: 1.77 or later Required for full VM: 1.77 or later Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: La Cie Current Utility Version: Silverlining 5.28 Required for System 7: 5.27 (5.3 *** recommended) Required for full VM: 5.3 ** Upgrade Cost: $25 - $50 **** Drive vendor: Liberty Current Utility Version: FormatterOne v. 3.27 ***** Required for System 7: 3.27 ***** Required for full VM: 3.4 ** Upgrade Cost: Free or $20 Drive vendor: Mass Microsystems Current Utility Version: PadLock 2.85 Required for System 7: 2.7 or later Required for full VM: 2.7 or later Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: MicroNet Technology Current Utility Version: MicroNet SCSI Utility 5.0.8 Required for System 7: 5.0 or later Required for full VM: 5.0 or later Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: Microtech International Current Utility Version: Microtech Utilities 3.27 Required for System 7: 3.0 or later Required for full VM: 3.4 *** Upgrade Cost: free or $10 Drive vendor: Mirror Technologies Current Utility Version: MediaManager 2.04 Required for System 7: 1.36 or later Required for full VM: still testing Upgrade Cost: free if req. Drive vendor: Optima Current Utility Version: DiskMount 2.4 Required for System 7: 2.4 Required for full VM: 2.4 Upgrade Cost: Free Drive vendor: Peripheral Land Current Utility Version: Formatter 3.1 Required for System 7: 3.1 Required for full VM: 3.1 Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: Relax Current Utility Version: Relax Installer 1.11 Required for System 7: Testing incomplete Required for full VM: Testing incomplete Upgrade Cost: Free Drive vendor: Rodime Systems (also see below) Current Utility Version: Rodime Driver Utility 2.2.1 Required for System 7: 2.1 or later Required for full VM: 2.1 or later Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: Rodime Systems (also see above) Current Utility Version: Cobra Driver Utility 1.1.4 Required for System 7: 1.1.0 or later Required for full VM: 1.1.0 or later Upgrade Cost: free Drive vendor: Software Architects Current Utility Version: FormatterOne 3.29 Required for System 7: 3.0 or later Required for full VM: 3.4 *** Upgrade Cost: $20 - $40 Drive vendor: Storage Dimensions Current Utility Version: MacinStor Installer 3.01 Required for System 7: 3.01 or later Required for full VM: 3.01 or later Upgrade Cost: Free or $15 Drive vendor: SuperMac Current Utility Version: Manager 4.1.3 Required for System 7: 3.26 and later **** Required for full VM: 4.2 ** Upgrade Cost: Free or $20 Drive vendor: Third Wave Current Utility Version: Disk Manager Mac 2.24 Required for System 7: 2.24 Required for full VM: 2.24 Upgrade Cost: Free NOTES: "Required for full VM" - In some cases drivers support virtual memory use, but installer utility cannot be used while virtual memory is on. "Upgrade cost" - Price depends on which version the user currently owns, whether a manual is included, and whether the upgrade is downloaded or mailed. *** - Scheduled for release in near future. **** - "Mostly compatible," according to SuperMac. ***** - Liberty Utility discontinued; not compatible. ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************