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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 7 Jun 91 Volume 9 : Issue 132 Today's Topics: 9600 Baud Modems Are all "0 item, 7K on disk" equal? Available RAM Claris Flame Claris HyperCard 2.1 Color Disk Icons Comamnd Line Interface to AppleEvents erratic mouse behavior - followup Figures in OzTeX: still another problem Genealogy program (again) Hard Disk Backup Hyper-Expert 1.2 Info-Mac Digest V9 #130 INFORMATION REQUEST: MacPassword Leaving your mac on? Macintosh Discourse MacTutor Mail forward from user HOTUCKCH@NUSDISCS.BITNET - Reply to original sender MandelZot 3.0.2 documentation mirror technologies support? Optimization Woes Segmenting RoboWar to 256k mail segments. System 7.0, aliases, icons Think C database objects (reflexions of mine) TrueType support on DeskWriter VGA for IIci? ZModem XCMD The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 14:09:42 edt From: olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com (Rocky Olive) Subject: 9600 Baud Modems I'm interested in purchasing a 9600 baud modem for use at home. I currently use a 2400 SupraModem (which I've been extremely pleased with), and I'm ready to upgrade. I don't know much about the 9600's, so here's what I'd like to do: Anyone who owns or uses a 9600 baud (Hayes compatible) to log on to BBS's, mainframes, etc. from their Mac (or pc), let me know your experiences. Brand, cost, purchase location, compatibility, etc, and I'll put together a summary and submit it to the digest. Please send info to me directly at <olive@suzuki.apex.dg.com>. Thanks. Rocky Olive, Data General Corp, Apex, CNNC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 91 23:21:11 -0400 From: ctchou@kodak.com (JOE CHOU, CTCHOU@KODAK.COM, INTERNET) Subject: Are all "0 item, 7K on disk" equal? Hello: I have a question. What is the difference between reinitializing a disk and deleteing everything on a disk then rebuilding the desktop? Once I tried to copy a file from hard disk to a 800K floppy and got a message saing not enough room on the disk. I then trashed everything on the disk and rebuilt the desktop. Now on the title bar it said zero item, 7K on disk. So I tried to copy again. Still not enough room. Since I knew the file was originally copied to the hard disk from a 800K floppy, the last thing I could try was to reinitialize the floppy. After I reinitialized the floppy, the title bar still said zero item, 7k on disk but now I was able to copy the file to floppy. So what is the difference? Anyone knows? Chou ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 15:13 GMT+1 From: FRICCI@polito.it Subject: Available RAM Hello, Do you know if there is any way for a program (BTW, in Think C) to know the size of all the memory installed? Including virtual memory, if it's active. The problem is that I have a handle in an init-cdev-patch, and I want to know if it points to a valid pointer: I can check if the number is odd, or anything else, but if this number is very high and goes beyond the RAM limit (be it on SIMMs or on disk), I get an address error before knowing anything. Can you help me? I couldn't find anything in IM... Thank you very much, - Alberto Ricci, FRicci@polito.it ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 91 10:19:57 EDT From: Clare Durst <CCD@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: Claris Flame Well, now, calm down, people. I think there is a legitimate gripe here, about Apple not distributing HyperCard v. 2.1 BECAUSE we expect that if they're giving us the system, they should give us the tools to use the system. How would people have reacted if they had provided NO hypercard stacks but instead a couple of programs that could only be run or used in, say, Excel? Would we be yelling because they didn't give us a copy of Excel? No, but we WOULD be yelling that they had provided us something in what might for us be an unreasonable format. THAT's the problem. If they had provided those stacks in Hypercard 2.0, we wouldn't be griping as much. I think Apple SHOULD re-think how it relates to Claris in the perception of the public: either Hypercard is system software, to be distributed with the system and the new macs, with Claris providing extensions and super programs to run WITH it, or it is NOT, and Apple has no more reason to provide a release using it than it does to provide a release using something from Microsoft. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 7:28:41 CDT From: DAVE@gerga.tamu.edu (Dave Martin) Subject: Claris HyperCard 2.1 A number of people have been flaming Apple and/or Claris over the fact that HyperCard 2.1 is not available through user groups or on FTP.APPLE.COM for everyone to get. Now in some ways I agree -- the entire System 7 software distribution should be available if any of it is made available at all. But I don't have a big problem with it all. A lot of work has gone into both System 7 and HyperCard, and many changes. I think that Apple & Claris (one and the same, sortof, but not quite) may prefer that users purchase the upgrades such that they get the manuals and support in addition to the software. Plus they are in business to make money <grin>. When I called Claris to requests uthe upgrades for two Claris products we have at work, the Customer Relations person asked me if I wanted to receive the free update to HyperCard which I own personally. He then mentioned that the Claris update would not be ready until early June, and that it would be shipped out when finalized. The way I see it all, Claris (a subsidiary of Apple, not a department within Apple) licensed the "un-magic'd" version of HyperCard to Apple for special distribution bundled with new Macintosh systems. Apple does not have the right by that license to place HC on their FTP site, or aCxnywhere else. Claris may be owned by Apple, but they do have their own hierarchy, along with a company President and a board of directors (which I would assume Apple is a part of). I will wait patiently for the final product update from Claris and appreciate it just as much as if I had gotten it off of FTP.APPLE.COM, plain and simple. I do agree that Claris could be a little less passive in their update policy, and inform users of current versions (as compared to the registered version) and reasons to update. Letting people know that they can update/upgrade is much preferred to having to answer complaints all day. Is Claris listening? Dave Martin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 16:37:35 BST From: Marcus Harvey <marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk> Subject: Color Disk Icons > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 91 02:51:40 EDT > From: rudman@caen.engin.umich.edu (Daniel Edward Rudman) > Subject: Color Disk Icons > > Marcus Harvey asks why he isn't getting color disk icons: You SHOULD be. Aha! Someone emailed me to say that the color icons in the System are only used in the About this macintosh... dialog. Your the first and only person to say that they *are* getting color disk icons as default. Thank you. Could someone else confirm that inserted disks automagically show up in color? > Also, you can use some ingenuity to place some REEEEEEALLY nice color icons > in place of your disks (use PICT resources and your favorite color image > software). Yep, I've done this. It's fun. > Hope this helps... I'm not sure WHY you'ld be getting black and whites... > are you still running facade? (blech!) > > //Dan Nope. Never heard of or had 'facade'. Anyone got any clues as to why those elusive color disks don't show? It's really irritating me. I don't like to not know why something that should happen, doesn't. Is it a conspiracy? Nobody seems to have any ideas on the matter. - marcus marcus@uk.ac.pcl.sun - JANET marcus%sun.pcl.ac.uk@ukacrl - BITNET/EARN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 91 10:03:41 PLT From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> Subject: Comamnd Line Interface to AppleEvents In infomac V9#130 Matthew Mitchell writes: ----------------------------- *** begin quote ... on my wish list: 1) A program creating a command line interface and parsing input to send to the Finder by AppleEvents. It should be quite feasible now to have an application which would let me command: "delete infomacv9-11*.txt" or "open database with Excel" Any programmers want to take a whack at it? It might find a ready market of Mac users who also use VAXes and IBMs. *** end quote One potential for this is HyperCard, which is already AppleEvents-savvy, already has an "open" command, and has not just a command line capability but also a scripting capability (which is to my mind more important than an interactive type-a-command capability). Of course, AppleEvents for the Finder need to be constructed by Apple to do things like delete a file. I understand that Jon Pugh is now at Apple coordinating the AppleEvents project; many of you may know him >From the shareware he's written (e.g., ShowSizes), or from his contributions to this discussion list (including the recent tightwads vs. criminals shareware deadbeats debate). Unless he says otherwise, I would think that he is the one who needs to hear what we want out of AppleEvents. -- Joshua Yeidel, Academic Computing Services, Washington State University ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 23:37:15 CDT From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein) Subject: erratic mouse behavior - followup That figures. The last thing I checked was the culprit. The erratic mouse behavior is caused by my Datadesk 101 keyboard. I have had it for a few years -- I got it soon after they came out -- and only recently I experienced this problem. A call to Datadesk revealed that I am not the only one who has this problem. Unfortunately, they don't know yet how to fix it. If you have Datadesk 101 keyboard and observe similar problems call them and add your name to the list of people awaiting the solution. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 14:14:34+010 From: Alfonso Fuggetta - CEFRIEL <alfonso@ercole.cefriel.it> Subject: Figures in OzTeX: still another problem Dear netters, I have recently installed System 7.0 and I have discovered that I am not able to have my OzTeX documents printed anymore. In particular I can print an OzTeX file if I save it as postscript and then dowload it using the laserwriter utility supplied with system 7.0. However, figures are not printed anymore and therefore I am still in troubles. Do you know how it is possible to solve these problems? Thank you for your attention, Alfonso Fuggetta ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 09:51:03 -0400 From: man@cs.brown.edu (Mark H. Nodine) Subject: Genealogy program (again) One program that I failed to mention the first time you asked for genealogy programs is Family Roots. It will do the kind of descendent charts you desire, as well as pedigree charts, family charts and person charts. It may very well be the most flexible genealogy program on the market. It is made by Quinsept, Inc. in Lexington MA (sorry I don't have the address in front of me). The reason that I usually don't respond when people ask about genealogy programs is that Family Roots definitely shows its ancestry as an MS-DOS program. The user interface has improved tremendously since the early versions, but in my opinion it's still rather clunky. However, if you really want enormous flexibility, then this program may be for you. --Mark P.S. I use the program, because I find that I'm willing to overlook its user interface deficiencies on account of its overall power. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jun 91 15:43:51 GMT From: Mitch Cherniack <mitch@cs.concordia.ca> Subject: Hard Disk Backup Does anyone know of a good public domain hard disk backup utility? I'd like one that fills the floppies (even if files are split up), and only requires me to insert new floppies when the previous ones are filled. Mitch Cherniack (mitch@concour.cs.concordia.ca) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 8:18:58 CST From: bechard@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Anne Bechard) Subject: Hyper-Expert 1.2 As the subject suggests, I am looking for a copy of Hyper-expert for Hypercard 1.2. I've found copies of it for 2.0 and higher, but can't find a copy that our Hypercard will take. Suggestions? Please reply directly to me, at bechard@mercury.uregina.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 13:08:29 GMT From: pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #130 In Info-Mac Digest V9 #130, Juan (JPons@Ollie.ClarkU.Edu) writes with regard to his Wholesale 54/Warehouse 54 horror story. Just to balance the record, let me tell you my experience with Wholesale 54. Two weeks ago I finally decided to buy one of these firesale-priced Quantum Pro 105 meg hard disks. I called all the companies, checked on price, availability, shipping cost, etc. Wholesale 54 came in with the lowest pricing and shipping. I called and no doubt talked to Donna! The phone was answered on the third ring, and the operator was courteous and honest. She said it would be 5 to 7 days before the drive shipped, and that it would go out FedEx two-day. Fine. $363 please. VISA. That was a Thursday. So, I exepected to not see the drive until Friday of the following week at the earliest. Imagine my suprise when I got home Monday at 4:30 p.m. and found the drive waiting for me! Excellent delivery time. It also shipped with the latest version of OnTrack's DiskManagerMac (2.25), which no one else was advertising. My experience with Wholesale 54 was a good one, and I have reccommended them to others. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 91 13:02:08 EDT From: Paul Devalier <PAD@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: INFORMATION REQUEST: MacPassword Hello, I have searched the cp, ex, demo, util, and app directories on sumex-aim but have not found a cdev called MACPASSWORD, which was not a fully functional product but was shareware $35 for a fair security program. Anyone seen it? ALSO, I would like to have several users log on to a Macintosh II si with a large hard drive, running System 7, in much the same way one would log onto a network. Is this possible? Are there any commercial/shareware programs which will do this? Or, would it be very difficult to implement? I have never done any MACINTOSH programming, but have done so on other platforms and I am very familiar with the Mac, I just haven't actually *programmed*. If I had pointers to some basic source code, would this be too difficult for me? (Yes, I've heard the Mac programming horror stories) ONE MORE QUESTION: Anyone heard of/seen a liquid crystal display or other flat screen which would work with a Macintosh IIsi? I would love to travel with it because it is very light, but the heavy screen keeps me grounded. THANK YOU to everyone who responded about the Mandelbrot program I was looking for. The name was Mandelbrot by Ben Haller. Someone sent it to me but, unfortunately, it was mangled in the mailing. But I have a name now, so it shouldn't be a problem. Any information concerning the above would be appreciated. Paul Devalier PAD@brownvm.brown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1991 22:06:44 EDT From: IOCONNOR@sunrise.acs.syr.edu Subject: Leaving your mac on? I have a question about leaving my machine on. A computer person at my university claims that it is better to leave your machine on all the time, because restarting it harms the machine. He syas if you're not paying for electricity, it shouldnt be a problem. If you pay for electricity, he thinks a good compromise is to start the machine on the morning and turn it off at night. Any thoughts on this? Any official responses from Apple or the drive makers? Kieran O'Connor IOCONNOR@SUNRISE.ACS.SYR.EDU (internet) IOCONNOR@SUNRISE (Bitnet) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 07:47:40 PDT From: Martin__Fass.WBST128@xerox.com Subject: Macintosh Discourse Maybe this will go down rather badly with a whole bunch of people, and in no way do I want to appear self-righteous. Well, maybe partly self-righteous. The point: it is tiring, tiring, tiring to read so many complaints about what software Apple or Claris or ANYBODY is not providing for free or for pennies. (This includes statements which begin with words such as, THEY PROMISED...) The rest of this point is that it is equally tiring to have the impression from certain people sitting at their keyboards and displays that, as the old saying goes, the world owes them a living. Doesn't your butt hurt? In short, speaking for myself, the Macintosh is what it has been from the first day I saw it, a wonder. Note: as one who doesn't always know what he is doing, am I sending this to the right place so it might be added to the next Digest? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 91 07:58:34 EDT From: Steve Greenfield <FEATS%VTVM1.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: MacTutor Does anyone know how or where to get machine readable copies of the source code printed in MacTutor? feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu or feats@vtvm1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 15:52 SST From: "Postmasters - Info Sys & Comp Sci, NUS." <CSSNET%NUSDISCS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Mail forward from user HOTUCKCH@NUSDISCS.BITNET - Reply to original sender From: "Ho Tuck Chiun Rodney" <sunface!HOTUCKCH@cs.orst.edu> Message-Id: <284b9ffa@sunface.UUCP> To: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: Upgrade news from the publishers I've purchased Think Pascal, SAM v2.0, White Knight v11.8 and a whole host of other programs and sent in my registration cards. I've that there were upgrades to some and the programs and I've not been informed. I would love to get these programs upgraded, but without any news about upgrades, I can't. It seems like some other friends of mine who also live in Singapore are not getting news about upgrades from the software houses. I'd just like to know if any one else out there has ever had this kinda problem. It's really frustrating and I hope the reason that I'm not getting the news isn't because I live in Singapore (or some other country outside the US, for that matter)... Thanx. -- Rodney Ho HOTUCKCH@nusdiscs.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 11:07:10 PDT From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) Subject: MandelZot 3.0.2 documentation > Has anyone succeeded in reading the documentation for MandelZot 3.0.2, > posted in the Info-Mac archives? It's a MacWrite document. My (old) > copy of MacWrite crashes when trying to read it, and Microsoft Word 4.0 > gives me a quasi-infinite number of "error, part of file will be > ignored" messages. I had no trouble with the docs for an earlier > version of MandelZot. Yes, other people are having problems with it as well. The MacWrite file was created by exporting the original (WriteNow 2.2) document through WriteNow's translator. This is the same process I'd used in creating the documentation for 3.0, and it had worked fine. Based on the error messages I've seen, I suspect that the 3.0.2 documentation has hit some sort of limit in the WriteNow translator, and has ticked it into creating an invalid MacWrite file. I'll send you a copy of the documentation in Word RTF format... WriteNow seems to have no trouble creating this format correctly. -dave- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 23:27:04 CDT From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein) Subject: mirror technologies support? I have the Syquest removable drive that I bought from Mirror Technologies a while ago. Mechanically the drive works just fine. However, the init exhibits problems when mounting cartridges formatted with non-Mirror utilities -- I have Microtech removable at work and several cartridges formatted by Mactel. Unless the very first cartridge inserted after startup is Mirror's, the disk icon does not show up -- just the name. This makes working with the drive difficult and sooner or later the system freezes when I click at that title. The init from Microtech as well as the one from Mactel handle all cartridge equally and without such problems. Well, I have make a call to Technical Support at Mirror complaining about that problem. Their response kind of shocked me. The guy I talked to stated that their init meets Apple standards and thus there is nothing wrong with it. It is the other guys who do not format their cartridges correctly. He also said that if other inits work for me I should use them. Gee, is this a great support or what??? And their ads claim excellence in user support... I just hope I have no problems with hardware and I don't have to test it. By the way, their Media Manager software, formatting utility, has quite fancy interface but it is quite poor in terms of features. ------------------------------ Date: Friday, 7 Jun 1991 10:15:03 EDT From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Optimization Woes I just learned an important lession - be careful with old optimizers running on System 7.0. I recently upgraded my IIsi to System 7.0. Since I wanted the use Virtual Memory (I had been using Connectix package under 6.0.7), I decided to allow 7.0 to create a VM section on my external Jasmine Direct Drive 45. To my way of thinking, optimising a hard drive with a VM section made great sense. So I went ahead and used Norton's Speed Disk on the Jasmine. The result was that the next time I went to use the drive it was dead. The IIsi couldn't mount it and Jasmine's own software complained that the drive motor was running too slow. After all else failed, I was forced to reformat the drive (which is now working just fine again). This is not a flame against Symantec, Apple or Jasmine. In fact, if there is anyone who deserves my flame its yours truly for taking such risks (actually it wasn't that risky - everything was backed up before hand). My point is that doing critical tasks like optimising under 7.0 (or maybe even 6.0.x) should be done with great care. Prior to using speed disk, I had used Disk Express II to optimise my disks under 6.0.7. I never much problem with DE (except for the fact that it never seemed able to entirely optimise my partitions). Maybe I should go back to it. What are the thoughts on Speed Disk vs Disk Express II vs ?. ------------------------------ Date: 07 JUN 91 10:05:35 CDT From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Segmenting RoboWar to 256k mail segments. Could someone E-Mail me regarding sending /game/robowar-212.hqx; 378K, to our location via BitNet. We cannot receive anything larger than 250K and if ROBOWAR was segmented via StuffIt, then we'd be set. I teach special ed and work with handicaps with many different platforms, hence, I'm always looking for various alternative games and utilities. RoboWar sounds like it is something that could be used here. If so, whomever segments it and sends it this way would be providing a service beyond mere game-playing. Many thanks!!! Larry Rymal <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET> | ATARI ST USERS OF EAST TEXAS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 15:13 GMT+1 From: FRICCI@polito.it Subject: System 7.0, aliases, icons Be careful: aliases are like handles. For example, you may have a System Folder with an alias of the Control Panels folder in the Apple Menu Items folder, and maybe all these Control Panels are aliases of real items contained in a Utilities folder. Then you copy the System Folder (and the Utilities folder) to another disk, let's say to another Mac. All the aliases will be aliases of the _original_ items on the original disk, not aliases of the items you just copied, so they'll all be invalid. Another case is when you just move or copy in two steps some items and their aliases: you may end up having to create all the aliases again. We all know by now that one can paste a PICT or an ICN# on top of the icon in the Get Info... window of any file to replace its icon. But this changes the resource fork of the file! And if this file doesn't have one, the Finder will add it. Now, this can be fun, but since it doesn't add 'BNDL' resources to applications, and it modifies the file resource (I know I can remove the icon by backspacing on the icon the Get Info... window), wouldn't it be wiser to modify just the desktop file? - Alberto Ricci. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 13:36:19 +0200 From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es> Subject: Think C database objects (reflexions of mine) Here is an opinion of mine: Sometimes, I think to make some code to manage data in a database permanent-object fashion. The essential doesn't be to create the database or to enter the data. The hardest work is to query the database to retrieval the data. If you have used SQL a bit, you can understand what I want to say. The best way I discovered to query an object database is overloading operators. Using other options could take the object database as flat database. Then, any effort to _objectize_ the code may be lost the time: It's preferable to use the code you have "asis". Think C hasn't overload operator, and It's seems the new version isn't C++. You may think to use the CStack, CList and CCluster classes to implement databases, but I believe these classes must be to use as a distinct object reunion, derived from the same parent, no for same-pattern objects, as common databases are. Before you move into a _objectize_ crusade, think in the pros and contras of the new objects you'll generate. If you translate your tons of generic codes in object ones, you not get more performance, but a new culture for calling conventions. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 11:13:37 PDT From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) Subject: TrueType support on DeskWriter > Are there any plans for support of TrueType on the HP Deskwriter? I > bought one last night. I have the TrueType INIT and would like to get > into TrueType ASAP. Install the INIT in your System folder, install some TrueType fonts in your System file using Font/DA Mover 4.1, and everything should work fine. If you print documents using fonts for which the DeskWriter driver does not supply an HP-style outline, the driver will ask the Font Manager for a suitable oversized font bitmap. If you've installed a TrueType outline for the font, the TrueType INIT will construct the necessary bitmap and hand it back to the DeskWriter driver... the driver won't know the difference between this dynamically-created bitmap, and a static bitmap >From your System file. Try installing a few of the freeware TrueType fonts that have been posted to Info-Mac... they should work fine. > P.S. I remember reading a while back about a change in the ink used in the > DeskWriter. What was the change and should I worry about it? HP reformulated the ink so that it becomes much less water-soluble once it has been applied to the paper... in effect, it binds itself to the paper fibers much more thoroughly than the old ink did. You can use the new ink for addressing envelopes, without worrying too much about whether the ink will run if the envelope gets wet (it may, slightly, but enough will remain bound to the paper to leave the address fully legible. The old ink could have washed away entirely.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 15:10 CDT From: BPRODEN%UALR.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: VGA for IIci? I am posting this question for a friend who does not have access to the net: Is it possible to hook up a VGA monitor to a Mac IIci? I am looking at buying a IIci, but I also must buy a VGA monitor for my DOS machine at work, and I'd like to avoid spending money for two screens. If this can be done, what kind of cards are needed? Thanks. Scott Sharpe Please reply to BPRODEN@UALR.BITNET, and I will forward the info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 91 20:47:59 HST From: Phil Conley <hpa@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Subject: ZModem XCMD I am looking for a ZModem XCMD to use on a Hypercard BBS. Does anyone know of anyone who's done it and where I can get it? Also, thanks to those who have responded to my System 7.0 query (re the funny message when I start my machine). It appears that I do not have the extra PRAM that the newer machines have and so I'm stuck with the message. I use the XPRAM INIT, but it loads after the message comes up -- oh, well. I'm planning on getting a new machine pretty soon anyhow. Dameon Welch hpa@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 10:03:55 -0700 From: "HAC2GM!AVIARY::C43GDS (Gary D ("DCL") Shapiro)"@hac2arpa.uucp (Gary D ("DCL") Shapiro) (Gary D ("DCL") Shapiro) (Gary D ("DCL") Shapiro) I am looking for a Mac word processor that can emulate DEC's EDT editor, especially the keypad. (I've been tied down 8 hours a day for 11 years in front of a DEC terminal connected to VAXes, and my fingers "think" EDT keypad.) Gary D. "DCL" Shapiro Internet: C43gds@aviary.gm.hac.com ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************