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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 11 Jun 91 Volume 9 : Issue 135
Today's Topics:
[*] Bombs 2.2 game
[*] DD 3.2 updater
[*] Loodle Version 5.1
[*] MacBibTex V2.0
[*] MacChase2.hqx
[*] macExp (TM) and ECL (TM) Release 1.11
[*] NetDoc
[*] Road Map utility
[*] TidBITS#65/10-Jun-91
[*] XlateGraf
9600 bps modems
a GOOD terminal program need..
Balloon Help
Color Finder icons
Followup on Public Domain CD's
Help!
Holy cow! Off or on, that is the question!
MacroMaker substitute
Norton Speed Disk
reply on 'StyleWriter info wanted'
ResHelper
Sound Sampler to work with LC Hardware?
Soviet Union via Internet
Summary of: Force-Quit with no Escape
System 7 views (one small gripe)
Teac Tape Problem solved, I think
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 17:49:59 +0200
From: christer@cs.umu.se
Subject: [*] Bombs 2.2 game
This is a new version (2.2) of Bombs, the puzzle game where you
must find all the mines on a minefield within a time limit. This
version features much better color graphics, better instructions
(now with some hints on how to play), optional debris on the
minefield, and a 'superClick'-feature (to uncover all non-marked
neighbours to a square in one click). The game should now run on
all machines, from the 512Ke and up.
If you like the game, please send a picture postcard!
[Archived as /info-mac/game/bombs-22.hqx; 106K]
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 00:25:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Tod Rose <mr2t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: [*] DD 3.2 updater
Upgrade applications to convert DiskDoubler versions 3.01 and up to
3.2, and DD Expand 3.2
File is compressed using DiskDoubler.
Upgrade advantages: Increased compression speed, increased application
compatibility.
Posted w/ permission. Questions & comments to
SALIENT@applelink.apple.com.
-Michael
[Archived as /info-mac/util/disk-doubler-32-updater.hqx; 607K]
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Date: Tue, 21 May 91 11:52:28 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] Loodle Version 5.1
New, more powerful, better than ever, low cholesterol LOODLE!
Version 5.1
LOODLE is a shareware utility - an incredibly low priced shareware
utility, we hasten to add! - for making labels for 3.5 inch Macintosh
disks. It is designed to print labels on standard sized label forms
such as those used by the Laserwriter and other sheet feed printers.
Complete instructions for use are available in HELP under the OPTIONS
menu. Basically all you do is pop the disks into the slots and LOODLE
will make up labels. It also allows you to prepare a text catalog of
all your disks and files.
If you have a Laser Printer (or a StyleWriter, or DeskJet) this is a
MUST HAVE! The shareware fee is ONLY $10 (if you have more than a few
disks it's worth much more than that). Thanks to:
Josh & Nick Franco
1117 Kagawa Street
Pacific Palisades, CA 90272
72571.1010@Compuserve.Com
for writing Loodle (I'm just a happily registered owner).
[Archived as /info-mac/app/loodle-51.hqx; 111K]
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 15:04:46 CDT
From: kahn@informatics.wustl.edu (Michael Kahn)
Subject: [*] MacBibTex V2.0
Appended below is MacBibTeX V2.0. MacBibTex is a straight port of the
Unix BibTex 0.99c for users of LaTex by Blue Sky or OzTex. Version 2.0
has a more Mac-like interface and a more effective path searching
scheme. Enclosed as a binhexed, stuffit file, the submission contains
only the application and a ReadMe file. An address for obtaining the
ThinkC 4.0 sources is included in both the ReadMe file and in the
"About MacBibTex..." from the Apple menu.
Michael Kahn
(kahn@informatics.WUSTL.EDU)
[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-bibtex-20.hqx; 90K]
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Date: Fri, 24 May 91 10:19:50 PDT
From: kevin@ux5.lbl.gov (Kevin Gong)
Subject: [*] MacChase2.hqx
This is MacChase version 2.0, compressed in Stuff-It form.
It's a pac-man-like game with 25 levels of play. Fun!
It is freeware/shareware. It's free, but you have to register.
And donations ($10) are welcome.
- kevin
[Archived as /info-mac/game/mac-chase-20.hqx; 141K]
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 15:20:42 EDT
From: "Michael J. Tarr" <tarr-michael@cs.yale.edu>
Subject: [*] macExp (TM) and ECL (TM) Release 1.11
This is the initial release of a collection of paradigms and libraries
for running psychology experiments on the Macintosh family of
microcomputers. Currently, three paradigms, RSVP, PAIR, and MEMO are
included. For each paradigm there is a compiled version, a sample input
file (*.ecl), a header file (*.hdr) listing all parameters that may be
altered by the experimenter, associated stimulus files where used, and a
User's Guide. In addition there is an ECL User's Guide and a piece of
propaganda (all manuals are in text only format and can be read with
your favorite word processor or within any of the paradigms). Each
paradigm also includes the THINK C 4.0 project, the resource file, and C
sources. Four C libraries common to all of the paradigms are also
included: XT1.lib, XT2.lib, ECL.lib, and macExp.lib; and two C header
files: symbol.h and macExp.h. These files should be placed in
appropriate folders in your THINK C folder. Eventually source code for
ECL.lib and macExp.lib will also be made publicly available. The two XT
libraries were created using Programmer's Extender by Invention
Software, version 3.5 Copyright 1990 -- therefore these libraries may
only be used in conjunction with an ECL paradigm.
At the current time several caveats are in order:
- Timing off of the keyboard or mouse is accurate only to 1/60.15 of a
second. In order to achieve this accuracy AppleTalk and MultiFinder
should be turned off and the program should be run from a hard disk
drive.
- Picts and pict resources are drawn into offscreen pixmaps and then are
transferred to the display. Therefore trials with many pictures
(particularly 8 bit and full screen) make require a large amount of RAM
to work.
- The built-in text editor can not handles files larger than 32K.
- When recompiling the projects it is likely that THINK C will not be
able to find the libraries. To fix this, simply Remove each library in
turn and then Add... them from the appropriate locations.
- This software has NEVER been tested with Macintosh System 7.0.
This archive is stored in BinHex 4.0 and StuffIt Classic 1.6 formats and
contains the following folders:
PAIR: Paired word/sentence presentation paradigm.
RSVP: Rapid Serial Visual Presentation paradigm.
MEMO: Memory (list learning + distractor tasks) paradigm. Written by Ian
Neath.
ECL Docs: ECL User's Guide and The Manifesto.
Libraries: THINK C libraries needed to recompile paradigms.
#includes: C header files needed to recompile paradigms.
[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-exp-111.hqx; 654K]
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 03:59:13 GMT-0500
From: jeff@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Jeff Linder)
Subject: [*] NetDoc
Enclosed is version 0.1b of the NetDoc Project. This is a stand-alone DocMaker
document that will eventually cover many topics of Network interest.
The current version contains updated versions of documents covering:
Introduction to BITNET/CREN
Using RiceMail on the IBM/CMS system
Intro to FTP
Introduction to Listserv.
More additions are planned, including Introduction to VAX/VMS mail, and UNIX elm mailers, readnews, and others. Please send comments and suggestions to
the address indicated in the package, or the one below.
Your comments and support will determine the continued success of this
project.
This file is Charityware (see file) and compressed with Stuffit Deluxe.
Thank you,
Jeff Linder
V5057U @ Vm.Temple.Edu (Internet)
TEMPLEVM (Bitnet)
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/net-doc.hqx; 54K]
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 10:29:39 PDT
From: deichman@cod.nosc.mil (Shane D. Deichman)
Subject: [*] Road Map utility
Attached is a BinHexed, Stuffit-ed file containing
a road map utility. Simply click on your city of
origin, then on the destination (both within the
Continental U.S.) and Road Map will illustrate the
quickest route on major interstates. It will then
show a listing of the major cities on this path,
with mileage between each point.
A neat utility for the frequent traveller!
(Note that I am not the author, just a dedicated user.)
-shane
[Archived as /info-mac/app/road-map.hqx; 32K]
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 91 00:06:31 GMT
From: ace@tidbits.ithaca.ny.us (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#65/10-Jun-91
Index of TidBITS#65/10-Jun-91
Reviews/10-Jun-91
MailBITS/10-Jun-91 - A few quick clarifications about
a Magnavox monitor and HyperCard 2.1.
SevenBITS/10-Jun-91 - Information on QuicKeys 2.1, a
MacX upgrade, and the NAUTILUS CD-ROM version of
System 7.
Window Gadgets - News about some of the first truly
interesting sounding pieces of hardware and software
for Windows that don't yet exist on the Mac.
HAM Sandwich - HAM stands for Hierarchical Apple Menu,
and will be one of three products that gives folders
hiearchical menus to list their contents.
More Apple News - Short bits on Apple's suggestion box
for Inside Mac, Second edition, the reason why the
next version of HyperCard will be some time off, an
undocumented feature in HyperCard 2.1, and the
forthcoming System 7 ability to dial into file
sharing.
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tidbits-65.hqx; 33K]
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 11:19:25 BST
From: Marcus Harvey <marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk>
Subject: [*] XlateGraf
> Date: Wed, 15 May 1991 13:54:11 +1000
> From: kim@csc.canberra.edu.au
> Subject: [*] XlateGraf
>
> Hello,
> I have this graphics utility that I use sometimes. I did not write
> it, I don't know the authors. I am just posting it. It can translate
> various graphics formats including MacPaint, PICT file, PICT Resource,
> Startup Screen, TIFF, GIF, IFF IBLM, GRASP, 8 Bit gray scale, 32 bit RGB,
> 32 bit y.Cr.Cb.Y, GDS. I'm not sure exactly what IFF IBLM or GDS are. The
>
IFF stands for Interchange File Format, it's an extensible file exchange format
developed by Electronic Arts and Commodore Business Machines. ILBM stands for
InterLeaved BitMap. There are IFF formats for sound, animation etc. It's a good
system and the ILBM type produces very small files. If there is an interest I
can supply the IFF specifications. It's kind of the Amiga equivalent of PICT but
it handles many types of data.
- marcus
marcus@uk.ac.pcl.sun - JANET
marcus%sun.pcl.ac.uk@ukacrl - BITNET/EARN
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 10:31:09 edt
From: olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com (Rocky Olive)
Subject: 9600 bps modems
I got a variety of respones to my question regarding 9600 baud modems. Below
I list the modems that were recommended/commented on. But first, here's a
little background info:
V.32 = 9600bps, 4800bps
V.32bis = 14.4Kbps, 12Kbps, 9600bps, 7200bps, 4800bps
V.42 = MNP 4 and LAP/M modem to modem error correction
V.42bis = LAP/M and 4 to 1 data compression.
MNP 5 = 2 to 1 data compression.
MNP = Microcomm Networking Protocol (Proprietary to Microcom)
LAP/M = Link Access Protocol/Modem.
bps = Bits per second.
Kbps = Thousands of bits per second.
NOTES:
A V.32 and V.32bis modem will work together. V.32bis will be able
to speed up or slow down to more speeds. If 9600bps is to fast for the noise
on the line, it will try 7200bps rather than dropping to the much slower
4800bps.
V.42bis data compression is not only twice as good at compression, it also
checks to see if the compression is doing any good. For files that are
already compressed (e.g. StuffIt or CompactPro) the modem compression will
actually make the file bigger to send *and* it may even crash the link.
V.42bis will check and not compress the file on the fly if already compressed,
MNP 5 won't do this and may crash the link.
Note that 9600 refers to the number of "bits per second" (bps or bitrate).
Baud refers to the number of signals transmitted each second. 2400 bps modems
send 600 signals a second, with each signal representing four bits; 9600 bps
modems run four 2400 bps connections at the same time (using different
frequencies) and so are really "2400 baud" modems. Avoid using the word "baud" to prevent confusing people.
Articles
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MacWorld, Nov. '90 p. 190
MacUser, Jan. '90 p. 180
--- modems listed below ---
Hayes UltraSmartModem v.42.bis - $800 (from anonymous)
- 38.4k thruput
- "thoroughly pleased"
- some recommend to keep away from Hayes because of prices, misleading names
(eg. their V-series "half-duplex v.32" is NOT compatible with other v.32's)
Penril Alliance v.32 - $695 (from Ray Faith <faith@eagle.mit.edu>)
- large (10" x 10" x 2")
- four modes (Hayes, v.25 bis, dumb, leased line)
- LCD controls on front
- will downspeed to 300 baud
- error correction (MNP) up to class 5
- v.42 bis data error correction
- requires the newer mac<->modem cable - pins 1,2 (mac) to pins 4,5 (modem)
for handshaking (older mac cables will not work)
- very satisfied user
Prometheus Ultima (from anonymous)
- up to 14.4k baud data w/ proprietary protocol and G3 fax
- fax software not very "friendly"
- supports v.32, v.32.bis, v.42, v.42.bis
Telebit Trailblazer (from <Charlie.Mingo@f421.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org>)
- up to 19.2k baud data w/ proprietary protocol
- used on many unix systems (great for uucp)
U.S. Robotics Courier v.32.bis - $590 (from Charlie Mingo)
- recommended by many people
- used by many BBS's
- up to 14.4k baud data w/ proprietary protocol
---
Let me state for the record the the above "facts" were contributed by many
different people, so I make no guarantees on the accuracy of pricing,
compatibility, etc.
As for myself, I think I will probably hold out until the fall before making
a decision, but U.S. Robotics and Prometheus got many votes. Hopes this
helps any others considering 9600 bps modems.
Rocky Olive, Data General Corp, Apex, NC
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Date: 11 Jun 91 02:01:33 GMT
From: steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steven Howell)
Subject: a GOOD terminal program need..
Cheers.
I have finally departed with our IBM, and am now in the process of setting up
communications with the mac.
We have system 7 installed, and its awsome colour is brilliant, however I
have not come across a terminal program that is even considered good.
They are all B&W, have undernourished text, and are basically a dog to use.
Does anyone know of an good, or even excellent terminal programs i can use
with a coloured mac. It doesn't matter if its share ware or from a software
house. I basically need some sort of intelligent preferably colourful
terminal emulation program.
thanks
steveh
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 16:03:47 PDT
From: Donald R. Proctor (415/987-0356) <spgdrp@ganges.ucop.edu>
Subject: Balloon Help
Sure, Balloon Help is cute, conceivably even useful. But does it
warrant its own little icon in my menu bar? Frankly, I'd rather have
SuperClock taking up the same place when I use, for instance, Microsoft
Word 4.0.
Why can't Balloon Help just be a DA--er, Apple Menu Item?
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 17:23:58 EST (Day 33398 of Century 20)
From: Mark Hayes <ccmlh%buacca.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Color Finder icons
Under System 7 on my SE/30-with-Micron-color-card, certain Finder
icons (e.g., floppy disk) continue to display only in black-and-white,
in spite of the existence of spiffy icl8's in the system file (as
verified by ResEdit). All other color stuff works fine, and I do see
color icon's inside folders. Also, I do get a color trash can.
What gives? Anyone?
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 17:28 CDT
From: <HARWELL%PANAM.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Followup on Public Domain CD's
Thanks to all who sent me sources to obtain compact disks of public domain
software. Several messages requested that I summarize to the net.
Sources for PD CD's:
1).EDUCORP
531 Stevens Ave. #B
Solana Beach, CA 92075
(800) 843-9497
(619) 259-0255
2). BCS*Mac (Boston Computer Society*Mac)
48 Grove Street
Somerville, MA 02144
3). BMUG (Berkeley Macintosh User's Group)
1442A Walnut St. #62
Berkeley, CA 94709-1496
-abh
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 18:54:04 CDT
From: "sendhil revuluri" <revu@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Help!
After attempting to install System 7.0, I had a fatal crash. And no, I wasn't
backed up. My most recent backup was about 20 days before the crash.
My version of Norton Utilities doesn't work quite right with System 7 (and
the new one doesn't come out for a month or two at least) but it has been able
to recover the directory; i.e., it created a new desktop file. However,
nothing corresponds to what it is supposed to be; all files are garbage.
What I need is some way to reconstruct the directory, on paper, from the
desktop file, so that I can re-incorporate recovered files into my backup
and preserve the structure of my hard drive.
Is there any utility (PD or shareware or commercial) that can make such a
directory (hierarchical) from the desktop file and then either print to
a LaserWriter or export to a generic TEXT format?
It had to happen during finals week. :(
Many thanks. Please reply via email to the address below.
Sendhil Revuluri
revu@midway.uchicago.edu
University of Chicago
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1991 17:34:17 EDT
From: IOCONNOR@sunrise.acs.syr.edu
Subject: Holy cow! Off or on, that is the question!
I think I have a habit of inciting electronic riot. Perhaps it is a
gift.
Anyway, I have gotten many responses pro and con--turn the mac off
when not using, leave it on forever. I can't fugure out what to do.
There doesnt appear to be a definitive answer. Does some higher being
know? Mac-God?
Kieran
IOCONNOR@SUNRISE (bitnet)
IOCONNOR@SUNRISE.ACS.SYR.EDU
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 14:48:01 PST
From: ISCJCW@uccvma.ucop.edu
Subject: MacroMaker substitute
From: Jerry Wilcox ISCJCW@UCCVMA (415)987-0516
Subject: MacroMaker substitute
>Discussion here and elsewhere indicates that MacroMaker is incompatible
>with System 7.0 and that Apple does not plan to upgrade. So wehre does
>that leave us? What alternative "MacroMakers" are there that are (or
>will be soon) System 7.0 compatible?
I am only familiar with two alternatives (both commercial): QuicKeys (CE
Software) and Tempo II/II Plus (Affinity). There have been reviews of both in
recent Mac mags, although I can't remember the specific one or date. I looked
at both and bought QuicKeys some time ago. I've not regretted it. The current
version is 2.0, which is NOT System 7 compatible. CE Software is taking orders
for version 2.1, which will be. 2.1 is supposed to ship the end of June, and
upgrades from 2.0 are free if you bought 2.0 after 4/1/91; $15 otherwise.
I don't have upgrade information for Tempo, although I've seen notes to the
effect that the current version is not compatible with System 7, although I
couldn't confirm that.
Disclaimer: My personal opinon only; no connection with CE Software other then
as a customer.
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Date: Mon, 10 JUN 91 18:12:19 +0100
From: RW_GRIFFITHS%VAX.ACS.OPEN.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Norton Speed Disk
A colleague of mine was using Norton's Speed Disk in the 'Expert Mode'
useing the 'Check Files' option, when he got the following info in a
dialog box:
Extents directory on this disk contains an invalid node.
node #32
Orphan Records, your files are safe, optimization cancelled.
This dialog had two buttons: fix and cancel. Chosing Fix merely took him
out of the application. Any ideas on what is going on?
How can these poor orphans be reunited with their (dead) parents?
How can he optimize his disk?
Rob Griffiths
Computing Department
The Open University
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 16:59:05 +0100
From: reinder@neuretp.biol.ruu.nl
Subject: reply on 'StyleWriter info wanted'
Some time ago I put some questions regarding the StyleWriter on the net.
Since I guess some of you are interested in the replies I got I post them
here as I got them (more or less; i.e. blame me for editing errors, blame
nobody for omissions and gross errors, we all try to help, don't we?). For
those of you who don't have perfect memory I will repeat the questions before
the answers I got.
1. I once saw the MTBF of the printer ITSELF being quoted as 6000
pages. Is this true (looks rather low to me)?
From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG@lawrence.edu>
Apple confirms this, and it is consistent with the Cannon BJ-11, which is
rated approx 10k pages - perhaps the graphics overhead for the mac is a
bit more than printing from an IBM.
2. Is there anybody around who can give 'real' figures on the
life expectancy of the ink cartridges? A related question:
does the StyleWriter use different cartridges than the
Canon BubbleJet it is based on (I have seen descriptions
of both printers which seem to indicate that the StyleWriter
has cheaper cartridges and manages to print more pages with
them, but I do not trust manufacturers specs)?
3. Is there
a. no possibility of a ink refill
b. no possibility of a ink refill YET.
c. a possibility of a ink refill
In case of c: what does it cost/how do you do it?
From: nieuwr@ursa.calvin.edu (Randy Nieuwsma)
Several companies sell refill kits. One of them is JETFILL.
Call them for information at 1-800-235-9748.
Randy Nieuwsma, Calvin College, Grand Rapids, MI
4. Is there any speed difference with the StyleWriter as regards
to the speed of the Macintosh driving it (i.e. should I buy a
FX in order to get real speedy printing). I know this to be
true for the ImageWriter (the 'pauses for thought' decrease
in length when using faster Mac's and would think this to be
even more true for the StyleWriter (a 360dpi page occupies
about 1 Megabyte and I do not think that there is that much
buffer memory in the StyleWriter))
From: "D. Mark Sprague IS/OS W91-219B X4107" <MSPRAGUE@mitvbud.bitnet>
I can only responde to point 4. I have a Mac+ with 2.5Mb and
the StyleWriter is agonizingly slow (i.e. 5-10 minutes/page w/ truetype),
but I have seen it on a CI and it is acceptably slow (1ppm or better).
>From: ECPKLINE%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Regarding this question. I do not know much about the stylewriter
but I have owned the HP Deskwriter for over a year. I read an article
in MACUSER that the styleWriter is considderably slower than the
deskwriter (May 1991). The output from the DeskWriter is also very
good. Finally, I have heard a rumor (good source) that HP has
significantly lowered the price of the DeskWriter, to under $400
(I will not guarantee that price, but I do know that the price was
lowered). The extra 60 dpi is not worth the loss of speed.
Reinder Verlinde
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 91 21:18:34 EDT
From: Alex_Sirota@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: ResHelper
I have a version of ResHelper 0.80 that has expired. Can anyone tell me
where I can get an update or where the author can be contacted. I cannot
seem to find it at sumex-aim. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 91 0:31:42 BST
From: 88907611%bradford.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Sound Sampler to work with LC Hardware?
Now that LCs and other Macs come with built in Microphone and supplied
`line-in' cables, is there any software available which allows a user
to record sounds?
The CDEV which comes with the Macs will only record up to 10s of sound
which is obviously a bit annoying.
I'm looking for ShareWare stuff ideally.
Thanks for any help...
Drew Radtke
University of Bradford, UK
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Date: Sun, 09 Jun 91 21:58:19 BST
From: Kevin Purcell <KPURCELL@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Soviet Union via Internet
Before you guys get too worked up about this, Vladmir has a sense of
humour. The kremvax relates to the now infamous April 1st joke in 1984.
A message was sent "from" moscvax via kremvax to usenet. The routing
tables were frigged so as replies to moscvax went to the perpetrator,
If you want more details on this have a look at "Life with Unix" by Don Libes
and Sandy Ressler, page 233 (section 9.1.5).
I should also check for kgbvax too -- it may be in the tables.
BTW, Valdimir contributes a lot to alt.folklore.computer -- it turns out (of
course) that Soviet hackers and Western hackers share a lot of the same
history.
Kevin
kpurcell@liv.ac.uk
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Date: 10 Jun 91 17:13:00 EST
From: evans@grumpy.dgrc.doc.ca
Subject: Summary of: Force-Quit with no Escape
A while ago I posted this message:
> How do I use the Force-Quit function of System 7 if my keyboard does not have
> an Escape key? Can I redefine the key combination? Can I redefine another
> key as the Escape key?
I received a few suggestions that I use the tilde key (~) or the grave accent
key (`) instead of the Escape key -- that did not work for me. Here is my exact
configuration:
- Macintosh Plus
- original Macintosh keyboard (no numeric keypad)
- 2 800k drives
- MacAvenue Protege 40 MB hard disk
- System 7
Is is possble that the tilde key only works with the newer Macintosh Plus
keyboard (the one with the numeric keypad build-in)? The question remains: how
do I use Force-Quit with my Macintosh?
Here is a summary of my replies so far.
Thanks again,
Randy Evans
Ottawa, Canada
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From: JEWETTGS%snypotva.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
I presume that you are using a Mac Plus with no escape key. The ~
key the same as the escape key for the system.
Hope this helps.
---------
What keyboard do you have that doesn't have an esc key?
Cheers,
Norton Chia, norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
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From: evans@grumpy.dgrc.doc.ca
> What keyboard do you have that doesn't have an esc key?
My keyboard is the non-ADB, non-numeric-keypad "chicklet" keyboard that came
with the original Macintosh 128K. (No pity, please.)
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From: norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Norton Chia)
Pity? You have the only keyboard that was designed for ambidextrous people!!
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I was able to force-quit applications on my escape-less Mac Plus (indeed,
it's keypad-less, it's that old!). Use command-option-` (grave accent, to
the left of the 1).
Cheers
Mike Dustan (Mike_Dustan@cc.sfu.ca)
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 13:26 EST
From: ELIOT@cs.umass.edu
Subject: System 7 views (one small gripe)
Apple did many things right with system 7, but it is more fun to
complain. :-)
The way text views work is so close to being really nice, but drives
me beserk. Why can't you sort a window on the basis of a view that is
not displayed???? I would like my system file displayed with the fonts
and sounds separate. This works just great if I view by "kind".
But in order to use View By Kind I have to enable showing the file kind
using the View Control Panel.
Grumble, Mumph, Argh. I can tell a font from a sound by the name or the
small icon.
Even worse is the Date field. It takes up a HUGE amount of screen space to
display the date. If I hide the date by making the window narrow then I
can't see the VERSION field which is often much more important.
It would be MUCH nicer if all of the views were always available. When
you select a view for a particular window it should show the selected
field in that window only, overriding the defaults set in the control
panel.
While they were completely re-writing the Finder it is too bad they didn't
put in splittable windows too. This would help deal with the problem
of seeing important view fields in small windows (and other problems).
Splittable windows are described in Inside Mac volume one. They can't
say the concept is new.
Chris Eliot
Eliot@cs.umass.edu
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 21:37:20 GMT
From: ace@tidbits.ithaca.ny.us (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Teac Tape Problem solved, I think
I think I may have solved my Teac tape drive problem. Retrospect flaked
out at strange times but never the same place (Jack Carlyle suggested
that a bad block on the HD could screw up the tape, but that was out
in this case because it had problems in different places). Instead
it appears to have been a case of the SCSI daemons playing tricks
on me. I know I had the SCSI bus correctly configured, but when I
removed the SyQuest drive (an internally terminated PLI) from the
chain, everything worked perfectly. We solved the problem by moving
the tape drive to another Mac that has enough memory for the thousands
of files Retrspect has to deal with, and hopefully that unattended
backup will work tonight...
thanks... -Adam....
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1991 14:16:20 PDT
From: Loren_Latker.ES_CP8@xerox.com
Subject: To: info-mac
I would be interested in hearing from any sofware hacking Mac SE owners with
Irwin XL20 Accelerators. The Irwin cdev was the cause of my early System 7
problems (aliases not working and crashes). That is now fixed; however, the
remaining problem is that the system software does not see the FPU, nor 4MBs of
the 8MBs of RAM installed on the accelerator. I'd like to explore other
options before I buy another accelerator or upgrade to a MAC SE/30 or II
something. If someone could patch the Irwin software, I'd be willing to spend
some money on that.
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