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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 21 Jun 91 Volume 9 : Issue 144 Today's Topics: Apple and ATCs Apple menu items and Hidden System Folders Archie CD-ROMs and FileSharinfg CD ROMs and System 7.0 Database of software available to Higher Ed. at discount ? Disk Space Display Epson FX Driver? EtherPort Card from EXCELAN / driver update? FYI: Deskwriter and 7.0 Giving up on Omen Technology's RZSZ how to initialize dos-formatted diskettes in fdhd & responder name Hypercard 2.1 on. HyperCard and Communications HyperCard versions coexisting Info-Mac Digest V9 #141 Interesting, er, feature of 7.0 MacTCP 1.0 and System 7 Nec Monitors / Mac Computers Quickeys 1.2.1 --> 2.01... Request for MIDI software recommendations ResEdit 2.1 ResEdit 2.1 - Can't send over net Sharing Printmonitor folder System 7 Questions telnet connection problem X window program for mac via FTP! The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:14:11 -0700 From: Bill Cockayne <billc@apple.com> Subject: Apple and ATCs As everyone has probably seen by now, Apple has had to cut back many of its services due to budgetary constraints. I can assure you that this has affected the company much more than the customers. The loss of ATCs is tragic as I too thought it was a great program. But, it had to be expected with the huge price cuts in many of the machines and with the introduction of the low-cost Macs themselves. People complained for years about wanting a low-cost Mac, they got it. People complained about wanting direct customer support from Apple, they got it with the 800 and 900 help lines. Apple is restructuring to become a better company in both the industry and with its customers. ATCs seemed to only be helping universities and companies. Both of these channels usually have a large help staff already on-site and therefore do not need a full-time ATC. This was probably part of the reason for there being cutback. Apple is changing. The Apple that is emerging is a more goal-oriented, customer-oriented company. Give Apple a couple of months to work out the kinks. I think that you will like what emerges. Bill Cockayne billc@apple.com AppleLink: bill.c "I am not speaking for Apple, or as an employee, just as someone who cares." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 13:57 EDT From: "James Burnell, WVU Comp/Ele Engr" <UN025523@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu> Subject: Apple menu items and Hidden System Folders I don't _think_ I've seen this question before.... My Computer Science I lab uses Macintosh IIsi's to connect to a local VAX for programming experience. To avoid letting curious (but unknowledgable) CS1 students poke around in the System Folder, the administration used ResEdit to hide it. I recently installed System 7 on my station, then set the invisible attribute under ResEdit so the folder was hidden again. I discovered, much to my chagrin, that hiding the System Folder means that Apple Menu items are inaccessible! This seems like a bad move to me. Is anyone aware of a work-around for this "feature"? Please send to me, and I'll summarize. (I WILL this time! Honest!) Sincerely, Jim Burnell UN025523@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU UN025523@WVNVMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:46:53 PDT From: jedavis@ucdavis.edu (James Davis) Subject: Archie There have been a lot of queries recently about where to find this or that program, so I thought I should share this bit of information with all of you. There is a server named archie that acts as a database of archives. It updates itself monthly, and has hundreds of ftpsites included. You can query it either interactively or through mail, and has never failed to find me a program when I knew what I was after. To find out more (this sounds like a commercial, doesn't it) Telnet to quiche.cs.mcgill.ca and login as archie, when you get a prompt type help. There is a fairly complete interactive help facility. By mail - mail to archie@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca Include the word help in your mail message and archie should respond with instructions. This really is a useful service, that I thought everyone knew about, but perhaps this will help someone. [Incidentally I'm not affiliated with Archie, although if you have any problems with it, I would be more than happy to help, since it seems to work fine for me] James Davis (jedavis@ucdavis.edu) : Computing Services, University of California ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:05:45 -0700 From: Bill Cockayne <billc@apple.com> Subject: CD-ROMs and FileSharinfg CDs will be shared when they are mounted during the FileSharing startup. If they are mounted after th machine has finished starting up, they will be shared. The way I understand it is that many people wanted CDs shared, but others didn't (consider Audio CDs). The final decision resulted in the above caveats. It is not a bug. It is a feature. You just have to make sure that you remember it. Bill Cockayne billc@apple.com AppleLink: bill.c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 11:21:48 EDT From: Tom Young <XMU@cornella.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: CD ROMs and System 7.0 >From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> > >Has anyone noticed that with 7.0's file sharing turned on, a CD placed in >Apple CD SC can not be ejected. If it is dragged to the trash, the >Mac says that it can not be removed because it is being shared - even >if it's not! > >Another undocumented feature, or a bug? If you turn file sharing off >the CD can be ejected. No, no one is using the CD besides the local >Mac. Hmmmm! > Yes, I've certainly noticed it. This is an unfortunate by-product of a feature of File Sharing: When you turn File Sharing on, all your currently mounted volumes (except diskettes) are being shared, and can be accessed with the owner's name and password you specified in Sharing Setup. Super, I can now mount my own hard disk anywhere on the network. A real boon when you're helping someone and need to grab something from your own machine. But a dreadful security problem. The networked Mac community will have to be re-educated to select and update their Mac passwords with the same care as they presumeably exercise with passwords to a traditional time-sharing system. You can turn off sharing of your whole disk with yourself by opening the owner's icon in Users and Group and unclicking the appropriate box. Unfortunately, you still won't be able to unmount the CD, even though you are no longer sharing it with yourself. What does work is to only mount the CD *after* sharing has started up; then, it is not shared and can be unmounted at will. I hope that 7.x (where 'x' is like '01') will: (a) help the security issue by making sharing of any mounted volume(s) under the owner's name an option that is toggled *off* by default; (b) fix the bug of not being able to unmount a CD that has not been shared, even when the the hard disk is not being shared; (c) make the whole business cleaner by allowing one to select which volumes are shared with oneself. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 09:25 EST From: JALLISON@vax.clarku.edu Subject: Database of software available to Higher Ed. at discount ? Does anyone have or know the whereabouts of an uptodate list of commercial software vendors who offer discounts to the Higher Education community? We are trying to make such info available to our users. Thanks, Jim Allison JAllison@VAX.Clarku.Edu Clark University Information Resource Center ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:24 EDT From: DSchwartz@dockmaster.ncsc.mil Subject: Disk Space Display System 7 has changed the way the disk space Used/Remaining is displayed at the top of Finder windows. That is, now the space is quantified in MBytes instead of KBytes when the the amount is more than 1M. Has anyone played with the Finder resource flags or whatever to be able to force the display to always show KBytes as it did in Sys 6? I find I liked the extra significant figures to observe small changes in disk usage.... Thanks, Dana Schwartz ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jun 91 08:48:00 GMT From: 6600dayl%ucsbuxa@ucsdhub.ucsd.edu (Darryl "NOT Ug" Lee) Subject: Epson FX Driver? does anyone know of a public domain or shareware (or freeware?) driver for the Epson FX? Printlink is pretty steep $99 for a cable i don't need and only 1/6 of the drivers that it comes with. thanks a lot... --Darryl Lee 6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 12:15:32 EST From: "Dr. Hermann Lederer" <HEL%DGAIPP1S.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: EtherPort Card from EXCELAN / driver update? Dear Netters, I have a MacIIcx connected to Ethernet by an EtherPort Card from Excelan The driver provided (EtherPort II version 3.25) cannot be installed on System 7. Does anybody know about a System 7 compatible driver update? Or an Excelan address/fax-number for inquiries? Thanks for any help/information. Hermann Lederer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 16:58:09 GMT From: Brad Stone <BRAD@iss.byu.edu> Subject: FYI: Deskwriter and 7.0 I have a HP Deskwriter ink jet printer connected to a Mac IIsi. I have found out that the current printer driver (Release 2) will not work with System 7.0 using virtual memory. When you try to print anything over a page long, you get the error: Datacomm buffer overrun - no DTR handshaking. I have contacted HP customer support, and they told me that it is a known bug, and that they didn't know if it was Apple's problem or theirs. They didn't have a date for when a new driver would be available. They also told me that the AppleTalk Deskwriter driver would work with virtual memory, but of course you have to run an appletalk cable to your printer. I have not yet tried this. - Brad Stone Internet: brad@iss.byu.edu BITNET: ISSBGS@BYUVM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 13:48 EDT From: "James Burnell, WVU Comp/Ele Engr" <UN025523@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu> Subject: Giving up on Omen Technology's RZSZ I debated whether or not to post this, but here goes: A few weeks ago I asked Info-Mac if anyone had succesfully used Omen Technology's (semi-)ZMODEM technology with the Mac shareware program Zterm. I received several helpful responses (and I apologize to those who did respond for not answering sooner), but I have given up. I can only assume that RZSZ as designed by Omen Technology does not send the same type of ZMODEM information as Zterm expects to receive; specifically, RZSZ is designed to be used only with their proprietary ZMODEM protocol called DSZ. (I has hoped this might be avoided, since I have seen RZSZ successfully used with the IBM shareware comm program Telix.) No matter which switches I tried, executable files (and text files, after a certain amount of time) produced CRC errors. If anyone successfully manages to do this, I would appreciate information on how it was done; I will post if I am ever successful. Thanks to the following people who wrote: Mr. Patrick Hoepfner, hoepfner@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov, who suggested I try getting the older UNIX source from info-mac/unix. I am planning to try this when time allows. Mr. Gordon Dohle, Dohle@Vax2.Concordia.ca, who prefers using $ SET BROADCAST = NONE and then using ASCII capture. In lieu of a workable ZMODEM, I have been using this technique very succesfully. Mr. James E. Davis (jedavis@ucdavis.edu) and Mr. Tim Ramsey (ram@think.com), who both suggested using the -e switch to escape control characters. Sounded good, but it didn't work. Apologies again for not getting back to some of these people; their input was greatly appreciated. Sincerely, James D. Burnell UN025523@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU UN025523@WVNVMS PS -- is there a recommended signature length? ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jun 91 10:00 +0200 From: michael.bach@ruf.uni-freiburg.dbp.de Subject: how to initialize dos-formatted diskettes in fdhd & responder name re: Inability to initialize (i.e., reformat) of DOS-formatted 1.4 MB diskettes I am new to this list and hope this is an interesting entry. There have now been two queries on this topic, so I send the following comment. We have repeatedly encountered the same problem on various macs equipped with fdhd drives: Once a hd-diskette is formatted on an "industry standard" computer, it cannot be initialized any more on a mac. I believe this is due to the high sensitivity to read errors of the disk initialization package. One way is to demagnetize the floppy, but there is a nicer solution: Use a disc-copy program which copies not on a file-by-file basis, but copies the entire floppy as a "bit image" (e.g., SUM QuickCopy). Take a freshly mac-initialized floppy an read it as master copy, copying all tracks, not just "tracks in use". Then insert your refusing-to-initialize floppy, turn off "initialize first", and voila! You can do this with a whole batch in series. >How can I change the name "responder" uses: Responder takes the "user name" which appears in the chooser box. Related obnoxious problem: Unexperienced users often change this name inadvertantly.It should be protected against change. You can do this using resedit and making the dialog non-editable, but this is lost, of course, whenever you reinstall the system. Greetings from germany - Michael Bach (Bach@ruf.uni-freiburg.dbp.de) ------------------------------ Date: 21 June 1991, 10:14:35 EDT From: Robert E.Moore 404-651-3990 PRPREM%GSUVM1@ricevm1.rice.edu Subject: Hypercard 2.1 on. Thanks to those who responded to my question about enabling the higher levels of Hypercard. There seem to be several similar ways to accomplish this. I followed Hannes Hofer's description, which worked for me. Basically you go to the home card, then go to the previous card. Call up the message box and type "magic" and the card changes from showing just two levels to showing all five. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 13:46:20 CDT From: ECPKLINE%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: HyperCard and Communications Hello netters: I am looking for xcmds or XFCNs which allow you to interface with a modem. Specifically I think it would be a wonderful idea if someone could write an XFCN which incorporates various telecommunication standards like x-modem,y-modem, or kermit file transfer protocols, Vt100 terminal emulation, modem settings, etc. These XFCNs would allow one to write hyperCard Scripts to support the structure of a homemade telecommunications program. I see this as allowing me to create a stack that would let me dial my modem hook to the local BBS or my university account, manipulate and transfer files down to my home computer. I like this idea because the scripting language in HC is so much more powerful than the communications software. I could have my my script access the net, download files, read the files and tag anything of interest. I could do this at night, while I am asleep. Yes I am aware that comm programs have excellent scripting languages, but I question whether any of them can sort through text files and do what I want to do. So, has this been done? Either commercially or some other way? Would it be worth the time and expense to anyone? Would I be better off writing a script and stack that works with my modem software to do some of the same things? ANy ideas? Please E-Mail me directly? Thanks Jeff Kline (ecpkline@UMCVMB.Missouri.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:27:25 +0800 From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu Subject: HyperCard versions coexisting Greetings, > I have a HyperCard stack that must use the older version of HC (v1.2.5) > to execute properly. I also have stacks that use the new version > (v2.0). My problem : when the v1.2.5 stack is executed it "finds" the > newer version and starts executing...needless to say, it doesn't work > properly. How can I "hard code" this stack to use ONLY the v1.2.5 HC ? > This is probably very basic...Thanks a bunch... One way to force both versions of HyperCard to be active at the same time is to go in and alter the creator codes and the bundle information. Then you essentially have two separate applications. This is only mildly dangerous, and if anyone is interested I'll post the procedure. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 07:25:39 PDT From: Martin__Fass.WBST128@xerox.com Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #141 Relative to the item from Peter Jorgensen about adding archived files to the MacArchives Stack...please send whatever is necessary or let me know how to start the process. If I follow corrrectly, would love to use this method to obtain Macintosh shareware. But how do I begin? All I've done to date (as of a few weeks ago) has been to put my name on this DL. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 08:55 EST From: AMINZADE%uvmvax.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Interesting, er, feature of 7.0 I love system 7. Works like a charm on my IICX with Apple's 1-bit video card except for this interesting, uh, feature. Every now and then (seems to be after I throw something in the trash), the icons all decide to get funny. The trash can starts out by looking like a 1-bit version of the grey- scale/color trash can with a rectangle surrounding it, then any folder I've selected gets an inverted rectangle around it, more or less permanently (if I cover it then uncover it with something so it gets an update event it looks normal till I click on it aga in. Otherwise I'm delighted with 7.0. If your real-life desk tends to be messy and you can't find things, the new finder is great. No need to organize your disks or directories, just put things in six places at once, and on the Apple menu too! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:22:49 PDT From: Mike_Dustan@cc.sfu.ca Subject: MacTCP 1.0 and System 7 I've seen a couple of postings about MacTCP and System 7, claiming (in roughly equal proportions) that it works and that it breaks. Here's my two cents. As I understand it, MacTCP 1.0 is not aware of Virtual Memory. If you have VM turned off, everything's fine. The problems arise when you turn VM on and try to use MacTCP with a bunch of other things going on. Sooner or later, MacTCP is going to get swapped out to disk. When a packet comes over the network for MacTCP, MacTCP only has so long to acknowledge it before it's lost - and this is nowhere near long enough to swap MacTCP back in. The packet gets tossed and chaos ensues. The solution is to make MacTCP lock itself into real memory so it can never be swapped out. I understand this is what the upgrade will accomplish. Mike Dustan Technical Specialist Computing Services Operations Simon Fraser University Burnaby, B. C. Canada V5A 1S6 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 14:55 CDT From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG@lawrence.edu> Subject: Nec Monitors / Mac Computers ibrahim <IBRAHIM%IVRUNIV.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes: > I am palnning to get a Macintosh IIci and i think to get a non-apple >monitor for it (Nec IIID). I wish to know if some one used this monitor with >Macintosh and how was the result. I have successfully used a Nec MS II, 2a, and 3D on a Mac in analog mode, with zero problems once I got the cable right. The thing is, is that the resolution is bad enough to where I could not easily read 9pt Geneva Italic on the screen (yes, my glasses WERE on) the colors are "washed out", and the curvature of the screen makes large windows look funny. I have seen a Nec MacSync HC hooked up to an si, and there was no difference. I finally got sick of the lousy screen and bought an Apple 13" RGB. Much nicer. If you want a hint, the Sony 1304 CPD is the same tube and and circuitry as the Apple 13", you just need a different cable. So, in short, yes, you CAN use the Nec Multisync Monitors with your mac, the question is, do you want to? Greg Trimper Trimper@my.nice.new.applecolor.rgb ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jun 91 01:21:34 GMT From: 6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Darryl "NOT Ug" Lee) Subject: Quickeys 1.2.1 --> 2.01... We (our office) bought Quickeys some time ago (even sent in the reg. card, as i remember it), but never heard from CE again. Was 2.01 a "paying" upgrade? Anybody know if CE has an e-mail address (or even usmail address--i've lost the manual) to write to to get info on the upgrade? Also, does anybody happen to know off the top of their heads how much the upgrade cost, if it did? We don't have sys 7.0, but i know that 2.0 was a pretty big upgrade just generally speaking. Any info would be greatly appreciated... --Darryl Lee 6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 12:03:40 EDT (Day 33409 of Century 20) From: Mark Hayes <ccmlh%BUACCA.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Request for MIDI software recommendations Tired of having ConcertWare MIDI crash on me under System 7, I am presently looking for alternative MIDI software products. Any recommendations (or warnings) would be much appreciated. I do not play keyboards; what I seek is a product that will allow me to compose in step entry mode and play back on a MIDI instrument. I would prefer that the editor display use standard music notation, and also need to be able to print scores (though my primary need is for a MIDI composition tool; I do *not* need super-spiffy score printing capability). Please reply directly to me. I will, as is customary, summarize to the newsgroup if I get any interesting responses. Most thankfully yours, Mark Hayes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 12:09:42 EST From: "Dr. Hermann Lederer" <HEL%DGAIPP1S.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: ResEdit 2.1 ResEdit 2.1 is available from ftp.apple.com (130.43.2.3) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 15:02 CDT From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG@lawrence.edu> Subject: ResEdit 2.1 - Can't send over net Joshua J Hart <STUHART%EKU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes: >Subject: ResEdit??? > I am actively looking fo the most recent version of ResEdit that i can get >my hands on. The most recent version is 2.1. It is very nice. >As i understand it, the program is "Shareware" (or equivelant -- >written by apple and all :) ) Wrong. ResEdit is a commercial program marketed by APDA. It is available for purchase from APDA and authorized groups/services that have paid a licensing fee. We went through this quite a while ago here on info-mac. >I have version 1.2 , but need the most recent >version available. (I looked in Macserve@pucc .. No luck in finding it there) Of course, as Info-mac does NOT charge a fee for the downloading. > Does anybody know where i might be able to find it? APDA, America Online, CI$, and maybe Genie, as well as from a few distributed programming disks, like d e v e l o p from APDA, and some others. >Or could someone send it to me direct? Mail, or Vmsdump >would be greatly appreciated! And also illegal. Greg Trimper Trimper@I.Wish.Things.Were.Simpler p.s. I would also like to add that if you make a general request over the net for someone to send you a file, that must generate a LOT of network traffic, wasted on multiple copies when you only need one. Perhaps you could ask someone to send mail first to see if you still need the file, before they waste their time and network bandwidth transferring it to you. Remember: info-mac goes out WORLDWIDE, not just your state or the USofA. Worldwide. If someone in France sends you the file, and you already had it, that was a LOT of wasted bandwidth. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 15:26:35 +0200 From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es> Subject: Sharing Printmonitor folder I have an idea, I don't know if it's good: Under 7.0 you can share any folder. A folder can be the folder which is used by Printmonitor. Other users can put into any spool-file to print out in a laser printer connected to the server (for example a direct laser like the Personal Laser). Because a password is needed in order to connect to the shared folder, there is a simple way to protect a laser printer in a net, and a way to shared a non-appletalk laser. I want to hear any experiences in this forum. -- JM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 13:52:54 +0100 From: reinder@neuretp.biol.ruu.nl Subject: System 7 Questions I am running System 7 happily over a month now, but (there always is a catch) I have some questions about it (more specifically about ResEdit 2.1 and/or System 7): ResEdit 2.1 says that there exist 'compressed' resources. My copy of Inside Mac Vol. VI doesn't say anything about them. They apparently do exist and ResEdit kan expand them, but is there a way to make them? With ResEdit 2.1 you can select 'Auto positioning' for Alerts, Dialogs and Windows. Again IM VI doesn't say anything about it and it doesn't seem to work, either. Is this one of those things which will be implemented in System 13? On the IIsi ResEdit 2.1 does some unnecessary color animation whenever a file is opened. Is this a bug, a feature or just something which could not be prevented easily (ResEdit 2.1 behaves normally on a IIx or IIfx). Reinder Verlinde ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 00:52:38 CDT From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein) Subject: telnet connection problem Here is a question for network whizzards. Our AppleTalk network is connected to ethernet network through Gatorbox. The ethernet network is connected to TokenRing and further to FDDI (campus) network through proper gateways. Campus network is connected to NSFNet through a Proteon box. The problem is that we can telnet and ftp from computers on ethernet and tokenring to anywhere in the world. However, the same fails miserably from AppleTalk. My Mac II has MacTCP and Telnet 2.3 (I also tried VersaTerm Pro 3.5 but with identical problems). Does anybody can give me a hint what can be the problem?? Strangely enough, I can telnet/ftp to any computer on campus. I just can't connect to anybody outside campus. The nameserver is on the other side of Gatorbox, but I don't think that it is the problem since I enter destination IP addresses explicitely. Moreover, our SMTP bridge seems to be succesful in obtaining IP addresses for domain names, but it encounters problems when trying to talk to remote hosts outside the campus (the error says that it can't connect on a virtual circuit). I should mention that there are 2 NetBridges between my computer and Gatorbox, although we are in the same zone. Again, I doubt that this is a problem since I can connect to computers on campus. Could something be wrong in Proteon configuration? Anybody any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 13:41:04 GMT From: jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cub Fan - Zim man) Subject: X window program for mac via FTP! I believe I have found a program at the FTP site apple.com which has an X terminal program in it. I brought it to my account at U of Illinois, but cannot figure out how it is supposed to work, or even if it will... Since Im not vrey familliar wilh how to convert a unix file into something the mac can use, I need some help here.. Could someone take a look at all of the X stuff in the pub directory of apple.com, and let me know if you can make some sense out of it? Thanks, -Zim (jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:49:01 CST From: VZHNW%TTUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Hello netters. I just purchased a USR HST Dual Standard modem and need to find out the pin assignments for RTS/CTS flow control. The way I understand it is that the Mac only has one set of handshaking connections, which are normally connected to DTR/??. I need to find out the easiest way (I'm definitely no expert) to connect the RTS/CTS lines to the handshaking connections. If I understand correctly, pin 4 of the RS-232 (RTS) goes to pin 1 of the Mac (Handshake Out). And pin 5 of the RS-232 (CTS) goes to pin 2 of the Mac (Handshake In). I don't want to try anything until this is confirmed. What am I going to lose if I connect RTS/CTS? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Brandon Hopper vzhnw@ttuvm1.bitnet vzhnw@ttuvm1.ttu.edu ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************