[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V9 #144

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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 21 Jun 91       Volume 9 : Issue 144 

Today's Topics:

      Apple and ATCs
      Apple menu items and Hidden System Folders
      Archie
      CD-ROMs and FileSharinfg
      CD ROMs and System 7.0
      Database of software available to Higher Ed. at discount ?
      Disk Space Display
      Epson FX Driver?
      EtherPort Card from EXCELAN / driver update?
      FYI: Deskwriter and 7.0
      Giving up on Omen Technology's RZSZ
      how to initialize dos-formatted diskettes in fdhd & responder name
      Hypercard 2.1 on.
      HyperCard and Communications
      HyperCard versions coexisting
      Info-Mac Digest V9 #141
      Interesting, er, feature of 7.0
      MacTCP 1.0 and System 7
      Nec Monitors / Mac Computers
      Quickeys 1.2.1 --> 2.01...
      Request for MIDI software recommendations
      ResEdit 2.1
      ResEdit 2.1 - Can't send over net
      Sharing Printmonitor folder
      System 7 Questions
      telnet connection problem
      X window program for mac via FTP!

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:14:11 -0700
From: Bill Cockayne <billc@apple.com>
Subject: Apple and ATCs

        As everyone has probably seen by now, Apple has had to cut back many
of its services due to budgetary constraints. I can assure you that this has
affected the company much more than the customers.
        The loss of ATCs is tragic as I too thought it was a great program.
But, it had to be expected with the huge price cuts in many of the machines
and with the introduction of the low-cost Macs themselves. People complained
for years about wanting a low-cost Mac, they got it. People complained about
wanting direct customer support from Apple, they got it with the 800 and 900
help lines. Apple is restructuring to become a better company in both the
industry and with its customers.
        ATCs seemed to only be helping universities and companies. Both of
these channels usually have a large help staff already on-site and therefore
do not need a full-time ATC. This was probably part of the reason for there
being cutback.
        Apple is changing. The Apple that is emerging is a more goal-oriented,
customer-oriented company. Give Apple a couple of months to work out the
kinks. I think that you will like what emerges.

Bill Cockayne
billc@apple.com
AppleLink: bill.c
"I am not speaking for Apple, or as an employee, just as someone who cares."

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 13:57 EDT
From: "James Burnell, WVU Comp/Ele Engr" <UN025523@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Subject: Apple menu items and Hidden System Folders

I don't _think_ I've seen this question before....

My Computer Science I lab uses Macintosh IIsi's to connect to a local VAX for 
programming experience.  To avoid letting curious (but unknowledgable) CS1 
students poke around in the System Folder, the administration used ResEdit to 
hide it.

I recently installed System 7 on my station, then set the invisible attribute 
under ResEdit so the folder was hidden again.  I discovered, much to my 
chagrin, that hiding the System Folder means that Apple Menu items are 
inaccessible!

This seems like a bad move to me.  Is anyone aware of a work-around for this 
"feature"?

Please send to me, and I'll summarize.  (I WILL this time!  Honest!)

Sincerely,

Jim Burnell             UN025523@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU     UN025523@WVNVMS

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:46:53 PDT
From: jedavis@ucdavis.edu (James Davis)
Subject: Archie

There have been a lot of queries recently about where to find this
or that program, so I thought I should share this bit of information
with all of you.  There is a server named archie that acts as a 
database of archives.  It updates itself monthly, and has hundreds of
ftpsites included.  You can query it either interactively or through
mail, and has never failed  to find me a program when I knew what I
was after.  To find  out more  (this sounds like a commercial, doesn't it)

Telnet to quiche.cs.mcgill.ca and login as archie, when you get a prompt
type help. There is a fairly complete interactive help facility.
By mail - mail to archie@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca  Include the word help
in your mail message and archie should respond with instructions.
This really is a useful service, that I thought everyone knew about,
but perhaps this will help someone.
[Incidentally I'm not affiliated with Archie, although if you have
any problems with it, I would be more than happy to help, since it
seems to work fine for me]

James Davis (jedavis@ucdavis.edu) : Computing Services, University of California

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:05:45 -0700
From: Bill Cockayne <billc@apple.com>
Subject: CD-ROMs and FileSharinfg

CDs will be shared when they are mounted during the FileSharing startup. If
they are mounted after th machine has finished starting up, they will be
shared. The way I understand it is that many people wanted CDs shared, but
others didn't (consider Audio CDs). The final decision resulted in the 
above caveats. It is not a bug. It is a feature. You just have to make 
sure that you remember it.
Bill Cockayne
billc@apple.com
AppleLink: bill.c

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 11:21:48 EDT
From: Tom Young <XMU@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: CD ROMs and System 7.0

>From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
>
>Has anyone noticed that with 7.0's file sharing turned on, a CD placed in
>Apple CD SC can not be ejected.  If it is dragged to the trash, the
>Mac says that it can not be removed because it is being shared - even
>if it's not!
>
>Another undocumented feature, or a bug?  If you turn file sharing off
>the CD can be ejected.  No, no one is using the CD besides the local
>Mac.  Hmmmm!
>
   Yes, I've certainly noticed it.  This is an unfortunate by-product of
a feature of File Sharing:  When you turn File Sharing on, all your
currently mounted volumes (except diskettes) are being shared, and can be
accessed with the owner's name and password you specified in Sharing
Setup.
   Super, I can now mount my own hard disk anywhere on the network.  A
real boon when you're helping someone and need to grab something from
your own machine.  But a dreadful security problem.  The networked
Mac community will have to be re-educated to select and update their Mac
passwords with the same care as they presumeably exercise with passwords
to a traditional time-sharing system.
   You can turn off sharing of your whole disk with yourself by opening
the owner's icon in Users and Group and unclicking the appropriate box.
Unfortunately, you still won't be able to unmount the CD, even though
you are no longer sharing it with yourself.  What does work is to only
mount the CD *after* sharing has started up; then, it is not shared and
can be unmounted at will.
   I hope that 7.x (where 'x' is like '01') will: (a) help the security
issue by making sharing of any mounted volume(s) under the owner's name
an option that is toggled *off* by default; (b) fix the bug of not being
able to unmount a CD that has not been shared, even when the the hard
disk is not being shared; (c) make the whole business cleaner by allowing
one to select which volumes are shared with oneself.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 09:25 EST
From: JALLISON@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Database of software available to Higher Ed. at discount ?

Does anyone have or know the whereabouts of an uptodate list of commercial
software vendors who offer discounts to the Higher Education community?
We are trying to make such info available to our users.
Thanks,
Jim Allison      JAllison@VAX.Clarku.Edu
Clark University Information Resource Center

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:24 EDT
From: DSchwartz@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Subject: Disk Space Display

System 7 has changed the way the disk space Used/Remaining is displayed
at the top of Finder windows.  That is, now the space is quantified in
MBytes instead of KBytes when the the amount is more than 1M.

Has anyone played with the Finder resource flags or whatever to be able
to force the display to always show KBytes as it did in Sys 6?  I find I
liked the extra significant figures to observe small changes in disk
usage....

Thanks, Dana Schwartz

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Date: 21 Jun 91 08:48:00 GMT
From: 6600dayl%ucsbuxa@ucsdhub.ucsd.edu (Darryl "NOT Ug" Lee)
Subject: Epson FX Driver?

does anyone know of a public domain or shareware (or freeware?) driver
for the Epson FX?

Printlink is pretty steep $99 for a cable i don't need and only 1/6 of
the drivers that it comes with.

thanks a lot...			--Darryl Lee
				  6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 12:15:32 EST
From: "Dr. Hermann Lederer" <HEL%DGAIPP1S.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: EtherPort Card from EXCELAN / driver update?

Dear Netters,

I have a MacIIcx connected to Ethernet by an EtherPort Card from Excelan
The driver provided (EtherPort II version 3.25) cannot be
installed on System 7.

Does anybody know about a System 7 compatible driver update?
Or an Excelan address/fax-number for inquiries?

Thanks for any help/information.

Hermann Lederer

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 16:58:09 GMT
From: Brad Stone <BRAD@iss.byu.edu>
Subject: FYI: Deskwriter and 7.0

  I have a HP Deskwriter ink jet printer connected to a Mac IIsi.  I have
found out that the current printer driver (Release 2) will not work with
System 7.0 using virtual memory.  When you try to print anything over a
page long, you get the error:

                Datacomm buffer overrun - no DTR handshaking.

  I have contacted HP customer support, and they told me that it is a known
bug, and that they didn't know if it was Apple's problem or theirs.  They
didn't have a date for when a new driver would be available.  They also
told me that the AppleTalk Deskwriter driver would work with virtual
memory, but of course you have to run an appletalk cable to your printer. 
I have not yet tried this.

     - Brad Stone

Internet: brad@iss.byu.edu
BITNET:   ISSBGS@BYUVM

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 13:48 EDT
From: "James Burnell, WVU Comp/Ele Engr" <UN025523@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Subject: Giving up on Omen Technology's RZSZ

I debated whether or not to post this, but here goes:

A few weeks ago I asked Info-Mac if anyone had succesfully used Omen 
Technology's (semi-)ZMODEM technology with the Mac shareware program Zterm. 
I received several helpful responses (and I apologize to those who did 
respond for not answering sooner), but I have given up.  I can only assume 
that RZSZ as designed by Omen Technology does not send the same type of
ZMODEM information as Zterm expects to receive; specifically, RZSZ is 
designed to be used only with their proprietary ZMODEM protocol called DSZ. 
(I has hoped this might be avoided, since I have seen RZSZ successfully 
used with the IBM shareware comm program Telix.) No matter which switches I 
tried, executable files (and text files, after a certain amount of time) 
produced CRC errors.

If anyone successfully manages to do this, I would appreciate information 
on how it was done; I will post if I am ever successful.

Thanks to the following people who wrote:

Mr. Patrick Hoepfner, hoepfner@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov, who suggested I try 
getting the older UNIX source from info-mac/unix.  I am planning to try this 
when time allows.

Mr. Gordon Dohle, Dohle@Vax2.Concordia.ca, who prefers using $ SET BROADCAST 
= NONE and then using ASCII capture.  In lieu of a workable ZMODEM, I have 
been using this technique very succesfully.

Mr. James E. Davis (jedavis@ucdavis.edu) and Mr. Tim Ramsey 
(ram@think.com), who both suggested using the -e switch to escape control 
characters.  Sounded good, but it didn't work.

Apologies again for not getting back to some of these people; their input 
was greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

James D. Burnell       UN025523@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU       UN025523@WVNVMS

PS -- is there a recommended signature length?

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Date: 21 Jun 91 10:00 +0200
From: michael.bach@ruf.uni-freiburg.dbp.de
Subject: how to initialize dos-formatted diskettes in fdhd & responder name

re: Inability to initialize (i.e., reformat) of DOS-formatted 1.4 MB diskettes

I am new to this list and hope this is an interesting entry. There have now 
been two queries on this topic, so I send the following comment.
   We have repeatedly encountered the same problem on various macs equipped
with fdhd drives: Once a hd-diskette is formatted on an "industry standard" 
computer, it cannot be initialized any more on a mac. I believe this is due 
to the high sensitivity to read errors of the disk initialization package. 
One way is to demagnetize the floppy, but there is a nicer solution: 
   Use a disc-copy program which copies not on a file-by-file basis, but copies 
the entire  floppy as a "bit image" (e.g., SUM QuickCopy). Take a freshly 
mac-initialized floppy an read it as master copy, copying all tracks, not just 
"tracks in use". Then insert your refusing-to-initialize floppy,  turn off 
"initialize first", and voila! You can do this with a whole batch in series.

>How can I change the name "responder" uses:
Responder takes the "user name" which appears in the chooser box.
Related obnoxious problem: Unexperienced users often change this name 
inadvertantly.It should be protected against change. You can do this 
using resedit and making the dialog non-editable, but this is lost, of 
course, whenever you reinstall the system. 

Greetings from germany - Michael Bach (Bach@ruf.uni-freiburg.dbp.de)

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Date: 21 June 1991, 10:14:35 EDT
From: Robert E.Moore 404-651-3990 PRPREM%GSUVM1@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject: Hypercard 2.1 on.

Thanks to those who responded to my question about enabling the
higher levels of Hypercard.  There seem to be several similar ways
to accomplish this.  I followed Hannes Hofer's description, which
worked for me.  Basically you go to the home card, then go to the
previous card.  Call up the message box and type "magic" and the
card changes from showing just two levels to showing all five.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 13:46:20 CDT
From: ECPKLINE%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: HyperCard and Communications

Hello netters:

I am looking for xcmds or XFCNs which allow you to interface with
a modem. Specifically I think it would be a wonderful idea if someone
could write an XFCN which incorporates various telecommunication
standards like x-modem,y-modem, or kermit file transfer protocols,
Vt100 terminal emulation, modem settings, etc. These XFCNs would
allow one to write hyperCard Scripts to support the structure
of a homemade telecommunications program. I see this as allowing
me to create a stack that would let me dial my modem hook to the
local BBS or my university account, manipulate and transfer files
down to my home computer.
I like this idea because the scripting language in HC is so much
more powerful than the communications software. I could have my
my script access the net, download files, read the files and tag
anything of interest. I could do this at night, while I am
asleep. Yes I am aware that comm programs have excellent scripting
languages, but I question whether any of them can sort through
text files and do what I want to do.

So, has this been done? Either commercially or some other way?

Would it be worth the time and expense to anyone?

Would I be better off writing a script and stack that works with
my modem software to do some of the same things?

ANy ideas? Please E-Mail me directly?
Thanks
Jeff Kline (ecpkline@UMCVMB.Missouri.edu)

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:27:25 +0800
From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu
Subject: HyperCard versions coexisting

Greetings,

>	I have a HyperCard stack that must use the older version of HC (v1.2.5)
>	to execute properly.  I also have stacks that use the new version 
>	(v2.0).  My problem : when the v1.2.5 stack is executed it "finds" the
>	newer version and starts executing...needless to say, it doesn't work
>	properly.  How can I "hard code" this stack to use ONLY the v1.2.5 HC ?
>	This is probably very basic...Thanks a bunch...

One way to force both versions of HyperCard to be active at the same time is to 
go in and alter the creator codes and the bundle information.  Then you 
essentially have two separate applications.  This is only mildly dangerous, and 
if anyone is interested I'll post the procedure.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 07:25:39 PDT
From: Martin__Fass.WBST128@xerox.com
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #141

Relative to the item from Peter Jorgensen about adding archived files to the
MacArchives Stack...please send whatever is necessary or let me know how to
start the process.  If I follow corrrectly, would love to use this method to
obtain Macintosh shareware.
But how do I begin?  All I've done to date (as of a few weeks ago) has been to
put my name on this DL.
Thank you.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 08:55 EST
From: AMINZADE%uvmvax.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Interesting, er, feature of 7.0

I love system 7.  Works like a charm on my IICX with Apple's
1-bit video card except for this interesting, uh, feature.
Every now and then (seems to be after I throw something in
the trash), the icons all decide to get funny.  The trash
can starts out by looking like a 1-bit version of the grey-
scale/color trash can with a rectangle surrounding it, then
any folder I've selected gets an inverted rectangle around
it, more or less permanently (if I cover it then uncover it
with something so it gets an update event it looks normal till I click on it aga
   in.

Otherwise I'm delighted with 7.0.  If your real-life desk
tends to be messy and you can't find things, the new finder
is great.  No need to organize your disks or directories,
just put things in six places at once, and on the Apple menu
too!

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:22:49 PDT
From: Mike_Dustan@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: MacTCP 1.0 and System 7

I've seen a couple of postings about MacTCP and System 7, claiming (in
roughly equal proportions) that it works and that it breaks. Here's my two
cents.

As I understand it, MacTCP 1.0 is not aware of Virtual Memory. If you have
VM turned off, everything's fine.

The problems arise when you turn VM on and try to use MacTCP with a bunch
of other things going on. Sooner or later, MacTCP is going to get swapped
out to disk. When a packet comes over the network for MacTCP, MacTCP only
has so long to acknowledge it before it's lost - and this is nowhere near
long enough to swap MacTCP back in. The packet gets tossed and chaos
ensues.

The solution is to make MacTCP lock itself into real memory so it can never
be swapped out. I understand this is what the upgrade will accomplish.

Mike Dustan
Technical Specialist
Computing Services Operations
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B. C. Canada  V5A 1S6

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 14:55 CDT
From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG@lawrence.edu>
Subject: Nec Monitors / Mac Computers

ibrahim <IBRAHIM%IVRUNIV.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:
 
>   I am palnning to get a Macintosh IIci and i think to get a non-apple
>monitor for it (Nec IIID). I wish to know if some one used this monitor with
>Macintosh and how was the result.
 
I have successfully used a Nec MS II, 2a, and 3D on a Mac in
analog mode, with zero problems once I got the cable right.
 
The thing is, is that the resolution is bad enough to where I could
not easily read 9pt Geneva Italic on the screen (yes, my glasses WERE on)
the colors are "washed out", and the curvature of the screen makes
large windows look funny.  I have seen a Nec MacSync HC hooked up to
an si, and there was no difference.
 
I finally got sick of the lousy screen and bought an Apple 13" RGB.
Much nicer.  If you want a hint, the Sony 1304 CPD is the same tube
and and circuitry as the Apple 13", you just need a different cable.
 
So, in short, yes, you CAN use the Nec Multisync Monitors
with your mac, the question is, do you want to?
 
Greg Trimper  Trimper@my.nice.new.applecolor.rgb
 

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Date: 22 Jun 91 01:21:34 GMT
From: 6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Darryl "NOT Ug" Lee)
Subject: Quickeys 1.2.1 --> 2.01...

We (our office) bought Quickeys some time ago (even sent in the reg.
card, as i remember it), but never heard from CE again.

Was 2.01 a "paying" upgrade?  Anybody know if CE has an e-mail address
(or even usmail address--i've lost the manual) to write to to get info
on the upgrade?  Also, does anybody happen to know off the top of
their heads how much the upgrade cost, if it did?

We don't have sys 7.0, but i know that 2.0 was a pretty big upgrade
just generally speaking.

Any info would be greatly appreciated...

				--Darryl Lee
				  6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 12:03:40 EDT (Day 33409 of Century 20)
From: Mark Hayes <ccmlh%BUACCA.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Request for MIDI software recommendations

Tired of having ConcertWare MIDI crash on me under System 7,
I am presently looking for alternative MIDI software products.
Any recommendations (or warnings) would be much appreciated.

I do not play keyboards; what I seek is a product that will allow
me to compose in step entry mode and play back on a MIDI instrument.
I would prefer that the editor display use standard music notation,
and also need to be able to print scores (though my primary need is
for a MIDI composition tool; I do *not* need super-spiffy score
printing capability).

Please reply directly to me. I will, as is customary, summarize to
the newsgroup if I get any interesting responses.

Most thankfully yours,
                              Mark Hayes

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 12:09:42 EST
From: "Dr. Hermann Lederer" <HEL%DGAIPP1S.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: ResEdit 2.1

ResEdit 2.1 is available from ftp.apple.com (130.43.2.3)

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 15:02 CDT
From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG@lawrence.edu>
Subject: ResEdit 2.1 - Can't send over net

 
Joshua J Hart <STUHART%EKU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:
 
>Subject: ResEdit???
>   I am actively looking fo the most recent version of ResEdit that i can get
>my hands on. 
 
The most recent version is 2.1.  It is very nice.
 
>As i understand it, the program is "Shareware" (or equivelant --
>written by apple and all :) ) 
 
Wrong.  ResEdit is a commercial program marketed by APDA.  It is
available for purchase from APDA and authorized groups/services
that have paid a licensing fee.  We went through this quite a while
ago here on info-mac.
 
>I have version 1.2 , but need the most recent
>version available. (I looked in Macserve@pucc .. No luck in finding it there)
 
Of course, as Info-mac does NOT charge a fee for the downloading.
 
>    Does anybody know where i might be able to find it? 
 
APDA, America Online, CI$, and maybe Genie, as well as from a few
distributed programming disks, like d e v e l o p from APDA,
and some others.
 
>Or could someone send it to me direct? Mail, or Vmsdump 
>would be greatly appreciated!
 
And also illegal.  
 
Greg Trimper  Trimper@I.Wish.Things.Were.Simpler

p.s.  I would also like to add that if you make a general request
over the net for someone to send you a file, that must generate
a LOT of network traffic, wasted on multiple copies when you only
need one.  Perhaps you could ask someone to send mail first to see
if you still need the file, before they waste their time and network
bandwidth transferring it to you.  Remember: info-mac goes out WORLDWIDE,
not just your state or the USofA.  Worldwide.  If someone in France
sends you the file, and you already had it, that was a LOT of wasted 
bandwidth.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 15:26:35 +0200
From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es>
Subject: Sharing Printmonitor folder

I have an idea, I don't know if it's good:

Under 7.0 you can share any folder. A folder can be the folder which is used
by Printmonitor. Other users can put into any spool-file to print out in a
laser printer connected to the server (for example a direct laser like the
Personal Laser). Because a password is needed in order to connect to the
shared folder, there is a simple way to protect a laser printer in a net, and
a way to shared a non-appletalk laser.

I want to hear any experiences in this forum.

-- JM

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 13:52:54 +0100
From: reinder@neuretp.biol.ruu.nl
Subject: System 7 Questions

I am running System 7 happily over a month now, but (there always is a catch)
I have some questions about it (more specifically about ResEdit 2.1 and/or System 7):

ResEdit 2.1 says that there exist 'compressed' resources. My copy of Inside Mac Vol. VI
doesn't say anything about them. They apparently do exist and ResEdit kan expand them,
but is there a way to make them?

With ResEdit 2.1 you can select 'Auto positioning' for Alerts, Dialogs and Windows. Again
IM VI doesn't say anything about it and it doesn't seem to work, either. Is this one of
those things which will be implemented in System 13?

On the IIsi ResEdit 2.1 does some unnecessary color animation whenever a file is opened.
Is this a bug, a feature or just something which could not be prevented easily
(ResEdit 2.1 behaves normally on a IIx or IIfx).

Reinder Verlinde

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 00:52:38 CDT
From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein)
Subject: telnet connection problem

Here is a question for network whizzards.  Our AppleTalk network is connected
to ethernet network through Gatorbox.  The ethernet network is connected to
TokenRing and further to FDDI (campus) network through proper gateways.
Campus network is connected to NSFNet through a Proteon box.  The problem
is that we can telnet and ftp from computers on ethernet and tokenring to
anywhere in the world.  However, the same fails miserably from AppleTalk.
My Mac II has MacTCP and Telnet 2.3 (I also tried VersaTerm Pro 3.5 but with
identical problems).  Does anybody can give me a hint what can be the problem??
Strangely enough, I can telnet/ftp to any computer on campus.  I just can't
connect to anybody outside campus.  The nameserver is on the other side of
Gatorbox, but I don't think that it is the problem since I enter destination
IP addresses explicitely.  Moreover, our SMTP bridge seems to be succesful in
obtaining IP addresses for domain names, but it encounters problems when trying
to talk to remote hosts outside the campus (the error says that it can't
connect on a virtual circuit).  I should mention that there are 2 NetBridges
between my computer and Gatorbox, although we are in the same zone. Again,
I doubt that this is a problem since I can connect to computers on campus.
Could something be wrong in Proteon configuration?  Anybody any ideas?

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 13:41:04 GMT
From: jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cub Fan - Zim man)
Subject: X window program for mac via FTP!

I believe I have found a program at the FTP site apple.com which
has an X terminal program in it.  I brought it to my account at
U of Illinois, but cannot figure out how it is supposed to work, 
or even if it will...

Since Im not vrey familliar wilh how to convert a unix file into 
something the mac can use, I need some help here..

Could someone take a look at all of the X stuff in the pub directory
of apple.com, and let me know if you can make some sense out of it?

Thanks,

-Zim

(jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) 

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91  10:49:01 CST
From: VZHNW%TTUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu

Hello netters.  I just purchased a USR HST Dual Standard modem and need to
find out the pin assignments for RTS/CTS flow control.  The way I understand
it is that the Mac only has one set of handshaking connections, which are
normally connected to DTR/??.  I need to find out the easiest way (I'm
definitely no expert) to connect the RTS/CTS lines to the handshaking
connections.  If I understand correctly, pin 4 of the RS-232 (RTS) goes to
pin 1 of the Mac (Handshake Out).  And pin 5 of the RS-232 (CTS) goes to
pin 2 of the Mac (Handshake In).  I don't want to try anything until this is
confirmed.  What am I going to lose if I connect RTS/CTS?  Any info would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Brandon Hopper
vzhnw@ttuvm1.bitnet
vzhnw@ttuvm1.ttu.edu

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