Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (12/01/88)
Info-IBMPC Digest Thu, 1 Dec 88 Volume: Issue 65 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Chinhae Korea <COMFLEACT@Taegu-EMH1.Army.Mil> Today's Topics: Description of Files available from SIMTEL20 Turbo C Math Toolbox C Math Toolbox Downloading Fonts to a Hercules Card Directory caching problem proposed solution XXU.C FTP at WSMR-Simtel20.army.mil (4 msgs) MASM 5.0, SYMDEB bug? No! Public Domain C++ Compilers Satisfied customer of TRICKLE in Europe Setup Program for AT-Compatible SWEEP-like utility Unhooking TSR's by poking into the Storage chain Today's Queries: Computer Game on Sailing ? DOS output in Windows 2.03 QuickBasic 4.5 Software for designing "On-Call" schedules New Programs Available: A long list of New MSDOS uploads to SIMTEL20 pd1:<msdos.filedocs>simibm.arc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1988 22:35 MST From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: Description of Files available from SIMTEL20 Now available via standard anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20... Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DATABASE> PCFILED.ARC.1 BINARY 214796 BA9FH <--documentation PCFILEP.ARC.1 BINARY 254348 576CH <--programs PCFILEU.ARC.1 BINARY 234412 4A26H <--utilities These three ARCs contain Jim Button's PC-File+ version 2.0. Directory PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS> NODESCR.IDX.3 ASCII 60598 FB9BH <-- Files not described SIMIBM.ARC.6 BINARY 61148 FC76H SIMIBM.IDX.8 ASCII 129710 0AF4H FILDIF.ARC.1 BINARY 24240 2B53H PD1:<MSDOS>FILES.IDX (updated daily, sometimes several times per day on weekends) for a comma-delimited directory listing suitable for importing into PC-File+. Also get MSDOS.HDR from the same directory. FILDIF is a program for comparing a previous copy of PD1:<MSDOS>FILES.IDX with a new copy. It displays the files added and deleted since you got the older index. This is useful if you are trying to maintain an archive in sync with SIMTEL20. It can generate output scripts for batch FTP process- ing. This is a C-based [MicroSoft-C or Turbo-C] program to compare the differences between two FILES.IDX files and generate a DELFILES.CMD and GETFILES.CMD. Both DELFILES and GETFILES contain the original FILES.IDX data-structure, but can be easily edited for further purposes. FILDIF is a 'slightly' changed SRCDIF - and [since its pretty 'basic' and relatively well structured] should be relatively easy portable. SIMIBM.ARC contains the latest SIMIBM.HDR and SIMIBM.IDX. SIMIBM.IDX is a comma-delimited listing of *many* of the SIMTEL20 MSDOS files, complete with a one-line description for each file. This file is suitable for importing into any database program that will accept comma- delimited imports (sometimes called MailMerge format). SIMIBM.HDR is a PC-File+ database definition header file. NODESCR.IDX contains the remainder of the SIMTEL20 MSDOS file listings for which there is currently no description. It too is in comma-delimited for- mat. --Keith Petersen Arpa: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA Uucp: {decwrl,harvard,lll-crg,ucbvax,uunet,uw-beaver}!simtel20.arpa!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 88 14:13:11 IST From: yaki avimor <MAR6000%TECHNION.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: Turbo C Math Toolbox Can someone up there recommend me about good C math toolbox for the turbo C compiler? it should include routins for MATRIX hendling and linear EQ. if someone has sources to share i'll be gratefull; thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 88 22:27:34 GMT From: Gregory Hicks - COMFLEACT Chinhae <COMFLEACT@TAEGU-EMH1.ARMY.MIL> Subject: C Math Toolbox Borland also has a Turbo Numerical Toolbox that does what you want. Disclaimer: Never used it myself, but one Operations Research colleague uses it frequently. Also uses it doing Economic Models... Regards, Gregory Hicks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 10:44 EST From: <YAN%QCVAX.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Downloading Fonts to a Hercules Card In volume 7, issue #55, Roy Tobin writes: > My hercules display card (a cloney-clone MG-150) has no such utility to > download fonts into my card. Does such a program exist? No. The main reason why Roy's card didn't come with this kind of utility is that his card can't use downloadable fonts. The MG-150 and most (all?) other Hercules clones are clones of the original Hercules Graphics Card. The so-called RAM FONT feature which is what lets you download a new font to the video card is a feature of the Hercules Graphics Card Plus. Thanks, Yan Juras Systems Programmer YAN@QCVAXA.BITNET Queens College, CUNY, Academic Computer Center ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Nov 88 18:45:59 CST From: B a l a <MKBALAJI%UMSVM.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: Directory caching problem proposed solution The problem is not due to the DOS but the improper configuering of a jumper in the floppy disk drive. I have had this kind of trouble with 5-1/4 on a AT. I think it will be the same with 3-1/2 too because the same floppy disk controllers are capable of controlling the new 3-1/2 drives. There is a jumper named DCG (Disk Change Jumper) which when improperly configuered will mainfest as mentioned in Jacques's mail. If the jumper is toggled the problem will vanish. There will normally be 3 pins of which 2 will be shorted by hardwired jumper or plastic (user configureble) jumper. If I remember it right pins 2 and 3 will be shorted in your case. Remove the jumper and put it in 1 and 2. I hope that this is of some use. /Bala/ Bitnet: MKBALAJI @ UMSVM ------------------------------ Date: 28 November 88, 09:55:40 EST From: <MTSJMC%GSUVM1.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: XXU.C I've been reading in this list about XXU.C. I'd love a copy of the source to compile on my system. I'm really a micro-oriented person, so a reasonable facsimile of MS or Turbo C would really make my day. Jeff Clough Programmer Georgia State University Computer Center MTSJMC at GSUVM1 [It's at WMSR-Simtel20.army.mil in file PD2:<UNIX-C.UTILS>XXU.SHAR... ] ------------------------------ Date: 26 Nov 88 15:54:46 gmt From: D.Murphy%edinburgh.ac.uk@NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK Subject: File transfer from Simtel20 Amongst the information you sent me when adding my id to the distribution list were instructions on how to access the PD archives held on simtel20, with a note about preferential use of the European sites to cut down on inter-continental mail. These instructions included examples from VMS, UNIX and one or two others, however, not including the local system here. I have contacted the local user support team who are not sure how to send the listserv commands. Therefore: 1. Are the commands just sent embedded in MAIL messages? and 2. if not, can I access the archives via FTP initiated from this end? Thanx, MURFF.... <D.Murphy@uk.ac.edinburgh> [1) Commands are sent TO Listserv@RPICICGE or to one of the European file servers in a normal mail message. If you send the mail to RPICICGE, you may get told to use a server located in Europe. Commands should be the only text in the message. Listserv does not understand any other text, and will flush any subsequent commands following the unrecognized text. and 2) you CAN access the files at WSMR-Simtel20 by FTP from Europe, but you may not want to due to the long distance charges... gph] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 14:18:05 EST From: Stan McQueen <sem@mbunix.mitre.org> Subject: FTP Problems at WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil Like many others, I too am having trouble with file transfers. When I ftp an ARC file, it seems to arrive garbled and I am unable to unARC it with any program I have. I am using the binary option, but that doesn't seem to help. Could anyone provide some hints? Also, at one time there was posted a telephone number that could be called with a modem to download software. Is that still available? I have used that approach successfully in the past, but have lost the number. +-----------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Stan McQueen | ARPANET: sem@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA | | The MITRE Corporation | LOCAL: sem@mbunix | | MS ON85 | | | Burlington Rd. | | | Bedford, MA 01730 | | +-----------------------------+-------------------------------------+ [Did you set TYPE TENEX or TYPE LOCAL 8 or TYPE LOCAL? TYPE TENEX or TYPE LOCAL 8 mean the same thing to you. TYPE LOCAL tells your FTP to sort out the protocol with the transfer so that you get an ex- act duplicate of the remote file... The DLX BBS telephone number went the way of all unfunded resources. That is, it no longer exists. that information is no longer in the Welcome mes- sage. --gph] [Just prior to mailing this digest, he sent a message to say that he used TYPE TENEX and solved the problem.] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1988 20:04 CST From: John Ladwig <JLADWIG%UMINN1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: FTP problems at WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil I'm having a dickens of a time accessing your file system. I can log on to WSMR-SIMTEL20 just fine, and list or receive the directory listings, but cannot seem to change directories, using either CD or CWD. Two things happen when I try: 1). CD MSDOS.C - 501 No such directory - CWD [You have to specify the complete path name as you did in the second example -- PD1:<msdos.c>] 2). CD pd1:<MSDOS.C> - I am prompted for a password, and my login ident does not do the trick. [Keep supplying your login ident as you have been doing. Even though the system says "password incorrect", the default directory HAS been changed but you have READ-ONLY access.] What am I doing wrong? [Nothing... Just didn't try and check what directory you were connected to...] -.JML.- JLADWIG@UMINN1.BITNET @VM1.SPCS.UMN.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 23:15 EST From: <VY1922%BINGVAXA.BITNET@CORNELLC.ccs.cornell.edu> Subject: FTP Problems at WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil I am having difficulty locating and accessing any the files at WSMR- Simtel20. If you could, for the benefit of recent subscribers, please describe how the files are reached from a VAX/VMS system. Thanks in advance, Rick Dickens [You need to use your FTP process, LOGin as ANONYMOUS, PASSword <your-name@your-host> (Any non-null string of about 6-8 characters minimum will do though.) Unless you're on the internet though, FTP from your site probably will not work. In this case, you can also use the file server at RPICICGE. You should have received the Listserv instructions when you signed up to the list, but if not, send me a note and I'll forward the file. gph] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 11:30 EST From: <YAN%QCVAX.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: MASM 5.0, SYMDEB bug? No! In Digest #47, David Kirschbaum asks: > Can anyone tell me why the following code won't assemble/link correctly? > I'm using MASM 5.0. The compiled code goes bad when testing BX, CX, DX > for 0FFFFH (ends up with "-1"). and then: > Gad, can't BELIEVE this! What's magic about 0FFFFH? I wouldn't call it magic--it's just that 0FFFFh is the two's complement representation for -1 (given a word size of 16 bits). Your code should execute correctly, regardless of whether SYMDEB prints FFFF or -01 when it shows a disassembly. (I'm not sure offhand whether the value -01 is stored as a single byte or as a 16 bit word, but either way, the processor should treat it as 0FFFFh, since the 0FFh would get sign-extended to FFFFh.) Yan Juras YAN@QCVAXA.BITNET Queens College, CUNY Academic Computer Center Systems Programmer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 14:00:31 PDT From: Robert Hodges <MAINT%UWAGEM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Public Domain C++ Compilers I put in a request for public domain C++ compilers some time back (August?), following which I left the country. There were a number of kind replies, but most of them were from people who wanted to hear about the said compiler, if discovered. As of this date, I *have not* heard of any such compiler. The best (i.e., cheapest) seems to be the Zortech C++, which is alleged to cost $99. Robert Hodges (MAINT@UWAGEM.BITNET) Gemini System Manager University of Washington, Seattle, USA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 12:58:32 MEZ From: "Dr. Gregor Reich" <A8411DAA%AWIUNI11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Satisfied customer of TRICKLE in Europe Hi, to recent discussions on sucessfully contacting the TRICKLE-servers in Europe I can add my own experience, and they are generally very good. There are of course sometimes problems, partly from failing connections, partly from load problems on the servers and sometimes also some bugs in the TRICKLE-software. But overall I am very satisfied. A great number of problems I have seen posted, result from the fact that the network backbone are IBM machines with the famous EBCDIC characterset and PC software is AS- CII. Never the less, I was surprised to see files can be transferred as is and be still readable as ASCII on my PC (I am connected with my PC to a IBM- 3081 with the VM operating system) when downloaded as "filemode binary" via KERMIT. Mostly I try the uuencoding which, after changing all exclamation marks to vertical bars on the host, I can get them easy to my PC and they are all working fine. I think it is a great service to us in Europe. Thanks anyway. Gregor Reich (A8411DAA @ AWIUNI11) Institute for Analytical Chemistry University of Vienna ------------------------------ Date: 25 Nov 1988 09:20:27 CST From: ATISD-DOOI@GUNTER-ADAM.ARPA Subject: Setup Program for AT-Compatible > One of the people I support here at TTU has personally bought a >system called an INFO-286 TURBO. It is IBM-AT compatible. He has >also bought a hard drive to put into it, but needs a setup disk to >configure his machine to understand that a hard drive has been >installed. > Can anyone help us? I ran across a setup program (a program which modifies CMOS RAM) called SETUP21.ARC. (Available on SIMTEL20 as PD1:<MSDOS.AT>SETUP21.ARC). I use it often since the Z-248's ROM-based setup program requires me to reboot. Hope this helps! Mike Molloy ATISD-DOOI@Gunter-Adam.arpa 512-652-6471 (AV487-6471) HQ ATCD/XPXX Randolph AFB, TX 78150-6343 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 13:16:21 MEZ From: "Dr. Gregor Reich" <A8411DAA%AWIUNI11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: SWEEP-like utility rpk @ goldhill.com (Robert Krajewski) has been asking for a utility like SWEEP. I don't know it, but from his description I can recommend the TURBO-POWER programmers utilities. One of them is REP (the command repeater) and it can do really amazing things. The package costs as I remember below $ 100. The address is TurboPower Software P.O. Box 66747 Scotts valley, CA 95066-0747 phone 408-438-8608 They advertise in Byte and other magazines. The software works great. Gregor Reich (A8411DAA @ AWIUNI11) Institute for Analytical Chemistry University of Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 17:25 EST From: <YAN%QCVAX.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Unhooking TSR's by poking into the Storage chain In Digest #49, Ya`akov Miles asks about a version independent method of finding the location of the first DOS STORAGE BLOCK. I don't know of a way to do this, but I will check around and see if I can find anything. However, Ya`akov also makes the statement: > Note that you can "unhook" terminate and stay resident programs by > poking the word 0 into the storage block offset ds:1 This is not true! In fact, this is probably a good way to make your machine crash in strange and wonderous ways. Let me explain: In Ya`akov's example, DS is pointing to a DOS Memory Control Block (MCB), which is a 16 byte header that immediately preceeds every memory block that is allocated by DOS. DOS uses these MCB's, which effectively form a chain, to keep track of what memory is being used by what program. The structure of an MCB is as follows: * The first byte contains either an 'M' or a 'Z'. An 'M' marks the MCB as an ordinary MCB. A 'Z' marks the MCB as the last MCB of the chain. * The next word (the one at DS:1 in Ya`akov's statement above) is used to indicate what program owns the memory controlled by the MCB. It is set to the PSP value of the program that owns the memory block. It is set to zero to indicate that the block is free (ie: not in use by any program). * The next word is the size, in paragraphs (1 paragraph=16 bytes), of the controlled memory block. Note that the size of the MCB itself (1 paragraph) is not counted toward the size of the memory block. * The remaining 11 bytes of the MCB are currently unused by DOS. Most TSR's "hook" themselves in by changing one or more of the processor's interrupt vectors to point to their code instead of wherever the vectors used to point. Therefore, "unhooking" a TSR involves more that merely freeing up the memory that it uses. The interrupt vector(s) must be restored also. If the memory occupied by a TSR is marked as free (by poking a 0 into the owner word of the MCB), that memory block might be used later for something else (probably to make a copy of the environment block for some program). When it is reused, the interrupt handler (which is what most TSR's really are) part of the TSR code is very likely to be overwritten. The next time that interrupt occurs, it is almost certain that the machine will lock up and die. Yan Juras YAN@QCVAXA.BITNET Queens College, CUNY Academic Computer Center Systems Programmer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 14:58:31 GMT From: Mike Norris <MNORRIS%IRLEARN.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Computer Game on Sailing ? I'm looking for a game, on PC or Mac, that can be configured as follows: The purpose of the game is to achieve the fastest elapsed time around the world, following the course of the Whitbread Round the World Race, to be used by the Sail Ireland venture. It should be commercial. In every respect, the weather, the yacht performance, the ocean currents and incidence of icebergs etc, should be as realistic as possible. At the beginning of each play, you start with a position and orientation of the yacht. This is displayed on a map on the screen, the Latitude and Longitude of the position are also displayed. The program selects weather, which is displayed as a true direction and true strength. The player can now re-orientate the yacht, and the program then works out the new speed. For every heading, an amount is added to the elapsed time. When the player is happy with his course, he pressed an 'Accept' button, and the yacht is set for a 12 hour run at that speed and course. A new position is calculated, the track is checked to see if any waypoint lines have been crossed, 12 hours is added to the elapsed, and the loop is repeated. The controls are left and right rudder, the 'Accept' button, and a switch to toggle between zoomed-in and zoomed-out display. Please let me know if you want any more details. Thanks. Mike NORRIS Acknowledge-To: <MNORRIS@IRLEARN> ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 88 01:30 GMT From: aprm @ Hawaii-EMH.arpa Subject: DOS output in Windows 2.03 I am looking for help with Windows 2.03 running on a Zenith Z-248 with a ZVM-1380 EGA monitor. When I access DOS from a PIF file I cannot see the output. As a test I am launching the tree.com program. When executed outside of windows I can re-direct its output to a file, which tells me it is writing to stdout. My PIF file has the following settings: Program Name: TREE.COM Program Title: Tree Memory Required = 52K Desired = 0 (take all you can get) Directly Modifies Nothing Program Switch = Text Screen Exchange = Text Close Window on Exit = No When I launch TREE.PIF I get a window with a white background, and a black underline cursor zips around the screen just as if text were being dis- played, but there is no visible output. When it is finished I can select a block in the window (it all turns black), copy it to the clipboard, and look at the output with CLIPBRD.EXE or paste it into a NOTEPAD file. In other words, the output is there, I just can't see it. Is it white-on- white? I have it with and without ANSI.SYS and EGA.SYS. I took out my fancy PROMPT entry in AUTOEXEC.BAT. My normal window colors are black text on a cyan background, yet the window uses a white background. I have changed a bunch of the screen colors, with no luck. My goal is not to run TREE.COM in a window; I want to run several different DOS utilities this way. I am using TREE.COM because it happens to be a typical DOS tool. My COMMAND.PIF fails the same way, so it really can't be TREE.COM. Please email ideas, I'll summarize to the group. Gary Dunn Ft. Shafter, Hawaii ------------------------------ Date: 27 Nov 1988 10:39-CST From: SAC.90SMWACC@E.ISI.EDU Subject: QuickBasic 4.5 I am having a problem with V4.5 of QuickBasic. While in the editor I get a lot of *keyboard bounce*. That is when ever I strike a key two to four characters appear. All previous versions (2, 3, and 4) worked fine. My question, is there a TSR or patch to QB4.5 to prevent this? I am using a Zenith Z-100 with a UCI PC emulator board set and version 3.2 of Zenith's MS-DOS. All other software works fine (ie. Wordstar 2000+ Rel 3, Logitech C7 mouse software/hardware, PFS First Publisher and PC Tools Deluxe to name a few). Thanks for any assistance. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 88 23:40 EST From: JAMESRC%QUCDN.BITNET@CORNELLC.ccs.cornell.edu Subject: Software for designing "On-Call" schedules Does anyone know of software available for designing "on-call" schedules that runs under the MS-DOS environment? Programme should allocate workers (for example M.Ds) to work schedules, take account of weekends, and external constraints like maximum number of shifts per week, etc. Thanks, Rob James Dept of Epidemiology, Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1988 00:33 MST From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: A long list of New MSDOS uploads to SIMTEL20 >From: "Leslie C. Brown" <lbrown@BRL.MIL> I've uploaded the following files tonight: <msdos.at>ATIM.ARC Precision program timing for AT <msdos.modem>BACKMAIL.ARC A Carbon Copy Clone (background mail/file xfer) <msdos.bytemag>BYTE1188.ARC Source code from Byte magazine 11-88 <msdos.sysutl>CHIPS.ARC Determine CPU and Math Chip Type <msdos.pctech>HLBENCH.ARC High level benchmarks 'C' source from PC Tech Journal Sources from Micro Cornucopia Magazine: <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-30.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-31.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-32.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-33.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-34.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-35.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-36.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-37.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-38.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-39.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-41.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-42.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-43.ARC <msdos.microcorn>ISSUE-44.ARC <msdos.borland>JNFB88.ARC Borland's Magazine Jan Feb 88 Sources <msdos.dirutl>NEW12.ARC List new files since/before date, version 1.2 Turbo Pascal Source Applications Generator & Doc's: <msdos.turbopas>OASDOC.ARC <msdos.turbopas>OASPRO.ARC PC Connect BBS Executables, Docs, Editor and Arc viewer: <msdos.bbs>PCC202.ARC <msdos.bbs>PCCARK1.ARC <msdos.bbs>PCCEDIT.ARC Sources from Programmers Journal: <msdos.progjourn>PJ55.ARC <msdos.progjourn>PJ56.ARC <msdos.progjourn>PJ62.ARC <msdos.progjourn>PJ63.ARC <msdos.progjourn>PJ64.ARC <msdos.progjourn>PJ65.ARC <msdos.sysutl>STEPDOS.ARC Step through an executing program tracking INT 21H <msdos.turbopas>TASKER4.ARC Turbo Pascal non-premptive multitasking module <msdos.turbopas>TPUOBJ.ARC Borland's Turbo Pascal TPU to OBJ conversion prog. <msdos.filutl>TREEVIEW.ARC Treeview (an Overview clone) from Magee like XTREE <msdos.keyboard>COLON12.ARC TSR to switch colon and semi-colon A86 symbolic debugger replaces version 3.17 already in the archives: <msdos.asmutl>D86V319A.ARC (Part 1 of 2) <msdos.asmutl>D86V319B.ARC (Part 2 of 2) Forth replaces F8388 package already in the archives: <msdos.forth>F-PCBIN.ARC <msdos.forth>F-PCDOC.ARC <msdos.forth>F-PCHELP.ARC <msdos.forth>F-PCRDME.ARC <msdos.c>KERNEL.ARC 'C' Multitasking kernal <msdos.music>INT_MUS.ARC Interrupt driven music demo w Turbo C 1.5 source <msdos.xlisp>XMATH.ARC X-lisp math functions to accompany x-lisp <msdos.database>SILICON2.ARC Database of info on FET and IC's Tesseract 1.0 TSR Programming Environment for C, ASM, TPascal, w/Demo: <msdos.sysutl>TESS_10.ARC With the exception of Treeview.ARC all these files were gleaned from Programmer's Corner. The sysops produced the PC Connect BBS software included in this package. Les Brown >From: Terry Phillips pd1:<msdos.printer>GRABPLUS.ARC -- a program that grabs an address from a letter in any number of wordprocessors, and instructs a LaserJet to print an envelope for the letter. This was recently reviewed in PC Magazine. pd1:<msdos.printer>4PRNT220.ARC -- a great program that takes an ascii print file and will print it 2 pages side by side in landscape mode on a LaserJet. It will sequence the pages to allow printing on both sides if desired. I have tested 4PRINT w/o any problems. I executed GRABPLUS with no evident problems, but I have used it on envelopes yet. Terry Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1988 17:43 MST From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: pd1:<msdos.filedocs>simibm.arc PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>SIMIBM.ARC is a comma-delimited database file listing many of the files in the MSDOS archives with a one line description, suitable for importing into PC-File+ or dBASEIII. I have included a Basic program below which gives a nice listing without a need for any database programs. --Keith ---cut-here--- 5 ' SIMCVT.BAS: TRANSFORM THE SIMIBM.IDX FILE FROM SIMTEL20 INTO A 6 ' READABLE FORM, AND CALL IT SIMIBM.LST. 10 OPEN "SIMIBM.IDX" FOR INPUT AS #1 20 OPEN "SIMIBM.LST" FOR OUTPUT AS #2 22 PRINT #2, "WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL PUBLIC DOMAIN LISTING AS OF "; DATE$ 23 PRINT #2, 25 PRINT #2, "NOTE: Type B is Binary; Type A is ASCII" 80 WHILE NOT EOF(1) 100 INPUT #1, FS$, DIR$, FLNM$, REV, LNGTH, BITS, DT, DESCR$ 105 IF FS$<>LFS$ OR DIR$<>LDIR$ THEN GOSUB 500 110 PRINT #2, FLNM$; TAB(15); 115 IF BITS=8 THEN PRINT #2, "B"; ELSE PRINT #2, "A"; 120 PRINT #2, USING " ####### ####### &"; LNGTH, DT, " "+DESCR$ 127 LFS$ = FS$: LDIR$ = DIR$ 130 WEND 150 CLOSE #1 160 CLOSE #2 165 SYSTEM 170 END 500 REM New Directory 510 PRINT #2,: PRINT #2, "Directory ";FS$;DIR$ 530 PRINT #2, " Filename Type Length Date Description" 540 PRINT #2, "==============================================" 560 RETURN ------------------------------ ************************ End of Info-IBMPC Digest -------
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Info-IBMPC Digest Wed, 28 Dec 88 Volume: 7 Issue 65 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Ventura, Calif <COMFLEACT@Taegu-EMH1.Army.Mil> Today's Topics: 80 meg in Novell 2.0, real AT, 1985 bios? BBS CDVI and TeX Editors written in Pascal Accounting Packages...which one? HP Laserjet TSR Emulation Package wanted Bell type 202 modems in PCs Hard disk backup to VCR Re: VCR Hard Disk Backup ILEAVE16 updated to IAU19A.ARC ILEAVE16 IND$FILE file transfer protocol Communication Software for OS/2 Info on PC Blue and other PD archives at Simtel20 Description for 8250 chip Wanted New MSDOS upload PCFile+ 2.0 Info Wanted Plotter redirection Problems with donloaded TurboPascal units Question for PC Digest--EGA, VGA boards Stand-Alone XMODEM Found Voice synthesis Wordperfect Scientific Wordprocessing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 16:47:22 EST From: hsi!stepstone.com!aad@uunet.UU.NET (Anthony A. Datri) Subject: 80 meg in Novell 2.0, real AT, 1985 bios? I've got a real IBM AT here, bios date 11-15-85. It's got a 40 meg type 15 drive in it now, running as a Novell 2.0a server. I need to stick a bigger drive in there, like a Seagate 4096 (80 meg), but I'm told that the BIOS is too old to have those drive types in there, and thus the Novell stuff won't format it. Someone told me that a DUB14 board by Golden Bell could be stuffed in there to fake out the bios, and someone else told me that I could stick a Phoenix or Award bios in there in place of the IBM one. Any suggestions? If I can just stick another 40 meg in there and have Novell treat it as one drive, it'd be just as well. The current plan is to take the existing 40 meg drive and stick it in a hitherto floppy-only XT, so I need a recommendation for a controller for that as well. Any info greatly appreciated. anthony a datri aad@stepstone.com stpstn!aad cthulhu@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 14 Dec 88 16:08:20 GMT From: mcvax!tnoibbc!hin@uunet.UU.NET (Hin Oey) Subject: BBS Early next year we want to start some experiments with telecommunication. Last week I have purchased a Compaq386 with 110MB harddisk. In the first stage we want to use a BBS under XENIX. More important, however, is that we want to link to databases and applications. If there is some experience I would appreciate an email. Regards, Hin Oey (hin@tnoibbc) Institute TNO for Building Materials and Structures (TNO-IBBC) UUCP: ..!mcvax!tnoibbc!hin PO BOX 49 Hin Oey USENET: hin@tnoibbc 2600 AA Delft Expert Systems Group VOICE : +31 15 606435 The Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 88 11:16:21 GMT From: "Wayne G. Sullivan" <WSULIVAN%IRLEARN.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: CDVI and TeX The CDVI archive of screen previewing programs for TeX has been upgraded to CDVI12.ARC. This includes versions for CGA, EGA, VGA/MCGA, Hercules and ATT/Olivetti graphics. The directory is PD1:<MSDOS.TEX> which also contains SBTEX.ARC. TeX is a text formatting program written by D.E. Knuth: only typesetting by hand can produce higher quality output. The two mentioned archives allow one to get started with TeX at minimal cost. If you want phototypeset output, it will cost a bit more. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 88 16:21:14 EST From: "Larry Bradley" <LARRY%VM.NRC.CA@CORNELLC.ccs.cornell.edu> Subject: Editors written in Pascal Thanks to all those that responded to my request for Turbo Pascal Async packages ... I found several. This encourages me to ask if anyone knows of a (simple) text editor in Turbo Pascal. It does not have to be fancy ... I don't need many features. I just don't want to write one from scratch if there is one I can get and modify. Looking through the index for the library hasn't turned one up yet. Thanks. *------------------------------------+--------------------* |Larry Bradley | LARRY@VM.NRC.CA | |Communications Manager | or | |National Research Council of Canada | LARRY@NRCVM01 | |Networks Branch | | |M60, Montreal Road | (613)993-0240 | |Ottawa, Canada K1A 0R6 | FAX:(613) 954-2561 | *------------------------------------+--------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 88 15:34:07 EST From: <James%FSU@rai.cc.fsu.edu> (James Messer) Subject: Accounting Packages...which one? I am in the process of changing accouting packages for a small business, and have found a program that might be useful. It's name is Database Accouting Library, and it is made by SBT Corporation. The program works on a 640K IBM PC or compatable, and is primarily used for small networks. Has anyone used this system? What was your opinion of the package? If there is anyone who has used ANY accounting package which was helpful or easy to use (yet powerful), I would appreciate hearing from them. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please send responses to JAMES@FSU.BITNET. James Messer Florida State University JAMES@FSU.BITNET ------------------------------ From: "John A. Potelle" <POTELLE%MAINE.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 88 10:38:46 EST Subject: HP Laserjet TSR Emulation Package wanted I'm looking for a TSR program that will make an H.P. Lazer Jet emulate an Epson FX80/100, 286 compatible graphics printer. Or even an IBM Proprinter. Anyone ? John A. Potelle POTELLE@MAINE.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: TUE 13 DEC 1988 17:24:00 EST From: "Richard J Reiner (bd)" <BDON@MCGILLB.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu> Subject: Bell type 202 modems in PCs We have a largish inventory of old simplex modems of the Bell 202 spec. and are wondering if the software to operate these exists for PCs. These are 1200 baud modems, and most of ours are in fine shape, so we would really like to be able to get some use out of them. They are FS keyed, and so will never be able to talk to Bell 212A type modems (i.e. what everybody uses on PCs), since 212s are QPS keyed. What is required to make them work? is a comm prog which can control the direction of data flow by manipulating the RTS line in the RS-232C interface: the modems send when RTS is marking, listen when it is spacing. (Half duplex, remember?) The ability to use the modems reverse channel (which operates at all of 5, yes five, baud) would be nice too -- this would involve program sampling of Secondary CTS in the RS-232 when sending, and manipulating of Secondary RTS when receiving. If anyone has used or knows of such software, please mail directly to me: I don't imagine many other PC users have this problem. Thanks, Rich. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Dec 88 14:14:46 PST From: lee#robert%e.mfenet@NMFECC.ARPA Subject: Hard disk backup to VCR In the issue dated June 23, 1987 of PC Magazine (Volume 6, Number 12), page 105, there is a small blurb on the VCR-based backup system made by Alpha Microsystems. Robert Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 10:58:09 PST From: ccicpg!billm@uunet.UU.NET (Morita Bill) Subject: Re: VCR Hard Disk Backup In article <940@arnav.UUCP> jru@arnav.UUCP (John Underwood) writes: Does >anyone out there know of an interface and software available to enable >hard disk backup from an IBM PC compatible to a video cassette recorder? > >A friend told me he knew of such a system for backing up hard disks >connected to a mainframe computer. > >Please reply by posting to this newsgroup, but be sure to include >the word "tape" somewhere in your reply. > >John Underwood at&t : 1-503-684-1600 >Arnav Systems, Inc uucp : ..!tektronix!nscpdc!arnav!jru >16100 SW 72nd Ave, P.O. Box 23939; Portland, OR 97223 The there are several available. The only one that I am personally familiar with is the AlphaMicro VideoTrax (tm) system. This system will backup approximately 30 Mb of file structured data on to a standard 120 VCR tape at standard play speed. The device comes in two forms, a interface board by itself that you plug into a VCR (using a cheapo VCR is _not_ recommended) for in the neighborhood of $300-$500 or a version that includes a VCR that has been adapted for computer remote control and status checking (the board only configuration lets YOU play VCR controller with the computer giving instructions to rewind, play, record.) The product is a sound one. I used to work for AlphaMicro. Their technology is good. Their marketing used to stink. These units are available throught many Radio Shack outlets. You can find an ad for them in BYTE or you can contact AlphaMicro directly at (714) 957-8500. It is sad to note that Alpha missed the window on marketing this device. Alpha had used video technology for years on their own systems. They had a working version of this device for the PC's when PC's first started showing up with 10 Mb and 20 MB hard disks and no sensible way to back them up. The marketing department were not satisfied with the then version of the software, which used a command line interface. They demanded and got (at a 2 year delay) a fancy screen/menu version. They could have established themselves in a booming backup device market but blew it. And ah yes.. History repeats itself. The recently bungled and entry into the MAC market that was going through the same sort of transformation (to hard disks). They were originally one of 4 or 5 backup devices a one Apple trade show and were voted most interesting new (hardware) product with interest expressed directly from inside Apple. But bungle it again they did. Then next Apple trade show had 50+ such devices on display an Alpha still does not have a finished product. This product does show some promise in one area. Data broadcast. The data can be broadcast over standard video channels. Such channels exist even in the most backward of countries and there are time windows on satellite transponders that are dirt cheap. You can set your recorder on timed record and retrieved the data later. Hope this helps. Sorry for venting my spleen here about the blunders of my previous manangement, but I think it makes an interesting historical note. Bill Morita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1988 23:08 MST From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: ILEAVE16 updated to IAU19A.ARC The disk interleave test and reformat program ILEAVE16 had problems with certain kinds of disk controllers and there was a problem properly recognizing the 8087 math chip, according to the author. The program has been updated to: Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory PD1:<MSDOS.DSKUTL> IAU19A.ARC BINARY 163657 4968H ILEAVE16.ARC has been deleted. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 12:11:37 PST From: <1052P%NAVPGS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: ILEAVE16 There is a new version out and it's available from Simtel20. It's called IAU19A.ARC instead of ILEAVE, but it comes from the same author. I ran into a few problems with ILEAVE16 and switched to IAU19A which seemed to work better, though it didn't really solve my problem. I was trying to speed up the 10M removable drives that come with secure Z-248's. These drives are abominable, testing out at 0.4 with Norton's SI. I ran SPINTEST on it and it was taking an average of 14 revolutions to read a track. The recommendation I got for an interleave from IAU was 6. I changed it to 6 and the SI went up to 0.8. However, I started getting Bad Partition Table and all of those other nasty messages about disk read errors. Given that reliability was more critical than speed in this case, I did a low level format and brought them back to Zenith's interleave. If any one else out there has any clue as to how to make these things behave any better, I'd sure appreciate hearing about it. Alan D. Ariel BITNET: 1052P@NAVPGS LT USN DDN: 1052P@CC.NPS.NAVY.MIL SMC 1624 (or) LEEKW@A.ISI.EDU Naval Postgraduate School Tel: (408) 646-2786 Monterey, CA 93943 AV: 878-2786 Acknowledge-To: <1052P@NAVPGS> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1988 18:20 CST From: John Ladwig <JLADWIG%UMINN1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: IND$FILE file transfer protocol Does anyone know of a standalone PD version of IND$FILE (the IBM file transfer protocol) for DOS, or if it is proprietary (as I fear)? My local 4381 host has a horribly inefficient version of KERMIT which is slow and costs an arm and a leg to use. If I can find a standalone package, perhaps I can intergrate it with my comm program, TELIX. Thanks in Advance, John Ladwig JLADWIG@UMINN1.BITNET JLADWIG@VM1.SPCS.UMN.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 00:09:55 EST From: Jimmy Law <PHYJLAW%VM.UOGUELPH.CA@CORNELLC.ccs.cornell.edu> Subject: Communication Software for OS/2 Communication Software for OS/2: Are there any out yet? I hear there is a version of Kermit, but is very buggy. Are there any other shareware, or public domain ones available? Jimmy Law, Physics Dept, University of Guelph. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1988 12:37 MST From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: Info on PC Blue and other PD archives at Simtel20 The following is a copy of a reply to a user's questions about PC Blue and other PD archive info. I am forwarding it for those on this list who may not have seen this information before. >From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ> Can you direct me to annotated files that describe the contents of the PD1:<PC-BLUE> subdirectories? I have been able to get such descriptions of that for PD1:<MSDOS>, but not for the other. Comma-delimited lists: Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory PD1:<PC-BLUE> FILES.IDX ASCII 530228 8E6AH <--all files, no descr. PCB000.IDX ASCII 106474 D4D2H <--disks 0-49 PCB050.IDX ASCII 118657 B34EH <--disks 49-99 PCB100.IDX ASCII 88194 6DD7H <--disks 100-149 PCB150.IDX ASCII 107560 9FDEH <--disks 150-199 PCB200.IDX ASCII 155851 3A04H <--disks 200-299 PCB300.IDX ASCII 85646 6DF4H <--disks 300-399 PCB400.IDX ASCII 65678 DAD9H <--disks 400-499 In directory PD1:<PC-BLUE.VOL000> you'll find (all text files): PC/Blue Volume 000 Information Catalog (1-485) name size description CATALOG .SUM 29K Summary of all released PC-Blue Volumes PCBLUE .CAT 330K Listing of PC-Blue releases 001 thru 485 RELEASES.NEW 6K Listing of latest PC-Blue releases This directory is updated each time a new release of several disks is received. I have found your system to be quite helpful in getting at the latest PC Magazine utilities. It would be much more efficient if I could get the type of annotated directory listing for the Unix, PC-BLUE, and other public domain/shareware directors. Are there PD2, etc. directories available? Please download: Filename Type Directory PS:<ANONYMOUS> BOOTSTRAP.HELP ASCII SIMTEL-ARCHIVES.INFO ASCII SIMTEL20-ADA.INFO ASCII SIMTEL20-CPM.DIRLIST ASCII SIMTEL20-MACINTOSH.INFO ASCII SIMTEL20-MISC.DIRLIST ASCII SIMTEL20-MSDOS.DIRLIST ASCII SIMTEL20-UNIX-C.INFO ASCII SIMTEL20-VHDL.INFO ASCII --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74] w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 13:58:28 SET From: Karl Keyte <ESC1332%ESOC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Description for 8250 chip Wanted Has anyone a discription (or a pointer to a good reference) for the PCs 8250 chip(s). I want to program the chip directly for Modem comms. I need to know things like how to drop and raise the DTR, how to set non-standard baud rates, etc.. Please send any info. to me directly at ESC1332@ESOC.BITNET. Thanks in advance for any offerings. Karl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1988 11:20 MST From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: New MSDOS upload Now available via standard anoymous FTP from Simtel20: Directory PD1:<MSDOS.TURBOPAS> TOAD_IAC.PAS - Demo on using the InterApplication Comm area [Turbo Pas] Got lots of queries in Info-Pascal about the IAC, where is it defined, how to use it, etc. Here's one demonstration (with required magic numbers) on how to use the IAC to communicate between programs (via bytes, reals, strings). David Kirschbaum Toad Hall kirsch@braggvax.ARPA --- Thanks, David! --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74] DDN: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr- simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 07:43 CET From: Ulf Emanuelson <VETUF%SEUDAC21.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: PCFile+ 2.0 Wanted I need information on the PCFile+ 2.0 program that's in the SIMTEL20 server. I have tried to download it (via TRICKLE at DKTC11.BITNET) but with varying success. I have been able to get the three parts (PCFILED.ARC, PCFILEU.ARC and PCFILEP.ARC), but the last one comes a lot smaller than indicated in the directory of PD1:<MSDOS.DATABASE> and UNPAKing (after UUDECODING) failes CRC-check. I have actually tried twice to get PCFILEP but with the same result. Has anyone else experienced the same thing? Has anyone an explanation, or, even better, a solution to this problem? Thanks in advance for your help, Ulf PS. Just want to say that TRICKLE has always served my requests very prompt and efficient| DS. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 13:20:18 SET From: BAKT55%AWIIMC11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Plotter redirection PC/AT, NEC2200, Graphic- packages I prefer to have Plotter-output to have on file (and printing it with a NEC routine to 24Pin printer). I tried that with "STATGRAPHICS", it worked 2 times well. But after changing all driver- settings (direct print- ing to printer via EPSONLQ.SYS didn't work always) i never found again the settings. Has anybody tried it too? How do you do with other packages (Chart, Havard...)? Thanks in advance Emil KOCI Univ. Klinik f. Chemotherapie Wien, Austria KOCI AT AWIIMC11 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 88 16:35:32 EST From: "Larry Bradley" <LARRY%VM.NRC.CA@CORNELLC.ccs.cornell.edu> Subject: Problems with donloaded TurboPascal units HELP! I have recently downloaded via the LISTSERV for SIMTEL some TurboPascal Version 4 programs that have units (TPU). I am using Version 5 of TurboPascal, and if I try to compile a program that USES one of these units, I get an error complaining that the unit file format is invalid. In once case, I had the source, so I recompiled the units and all was well. In the other case (the LCOMMTP package) there IS no source. How do I solve this one? Nothing in the Turbo Pascal manual talks about differences in the format of units. And I don't think it is a problem with the download, since the .PAS and .EXE files are OK ... I can run a demo, I just can't compile the source for it. I finally found a good comm. package for Turbo, and now I can't use it! HELP! *------------------------------------+--------------------* |Larry Bradley | LARRY@VM.NRC.CA | |Communications Manager | or | |National Research Council of Canada | LARRY@NRCVM01 | |Networks Branch | | |M60, Montreal Road | (613)993-0240 | |Ottawa, Canada K1A 0R6 | FAX:(613) 954-2561 | *------------------------------------+--------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 88 22:05:28 PST From: Gerald Hawkins <jerry@starfish.convergent.com> Subject: Question for PC Digest--EGA, VGA boards I am beginning to investigate adding EGA or VGA hardware to my clone. As I start to gather information on the various boards and monitors, comparison shopping and watching for comment in print and on networks, I've started to wonder: Has anyone recently compiled a list of the various EGA & VGA boards, with their features? It doesn't seem to me such a list would be awfully long. There are only about 25 popular boards ... though there are no doubt 25,367,209 little known ones that I've never heard of. If anyone has already done this research, I'm sure I and others would make good use of the information. jerry@starfish.convergent.com ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 14:22:04 EST From: kobus@NADC.ARPA (D. Kobus) Subject: Stand-Alone XMODEM Found In #61 Rick Rohan comments on how anyone could get XMODEM to even run under KERMIT. Well one suggestion offered to me by Keith Petersen was to shell out to DSZ to the x/y/zmodem protocols when using KERMIT. The main reason I originally requested a stand alone protocol (#58), is that although I frequently utilize Columbia University's KERMIT because of its features like producing Tektronix plots on my IBM-clone and enabling me to intercept the serial communications interrupt normally processed by the ROM BIOS, some bbs systems only use x/y/or zmodem. I thought that instead of utilizing a completely different communication package which might not be public domain and would be difficult to keep the embedded XMODEM, KERMIT, etc. upgraded to the state of the art, an approach similar to the one offered by Mr. Petersen might be viable. In conclusion, many thanks to the myriad of informative responses that I received concerning this inquiry. David B. Kobus Naval Air Development Center ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Dec 88 18:51 PST From: Michael Bass <MBASS@uoneuro.uoregon.edu> Subject: Voice synthesis >From: "Donald_T.C._Sun.WBST129"@Xerox.COM > >I am interested in obtaining any information I can on an inexpensive voice >synthesis system for a friend who has lost his ability to speak. Any in- >formation on hardware/software for a complete system would be appreciated. You might check out the "Speech Thing" from Covox Inc, 675 Conger St., Eugene, OR 97402. Tel (503)342-1271. The blurb I got from them says it delivers "clear, clean digitized speech and music" all for $79.95. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Dec 88 11:16:08 est From: marwood@ncs.dnd.ca (Gordon Marwood) Subject: Wordperfect Scientific Wordprocessing I have heard it rumoured that some company (not Wordperfect Corporation), produces an add-on to Wordperfect which greatly improves its capability for scientific wordprocessing. If anyone has any information on this and any opinions on its performance, I would be very interested to hear more. Gordon Marwood ------------------------------ ************************ End of Info-IBMPC Digest -------