Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (12/28/89)
Info-IBMPC Digest Thu, 28 Dec 89 Volume 89 : Issue 125 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Chinhae Korea <COMFLEACT@Taegu-EMH1.army.mil> Today's Topics: Adding 5.25" External Drives to PS/2 Model 30s Dental Office Automation Package Hypertext for the PC DOS environment Bug(?) in Microsoft's Quick-C (Version 1.01) loop optimizer Defining Keys with MS-Kermit Norton on 4.01 Telix Zmodem for VM/CMS - Not Likely ... Today's Queries: 1MegaByte RAM on a IBM-PC/XT Digital LN03 and Wordperfect 5.0 external 5" floppy on Zenith SuperSport-286 Documentation on RS-232 Interface desired Printer Driver for Mitsubishi Color Printer/Plotter wanted Lotus 1-2-3 v2.1 - Format of .WK1 file UniPlex Word Processing Package info wanted Where is XXENCODE.ARC? New programs: EM87-V11.ARC - 8087 math coprocessor emulator for AT or 386 The Lending Library is available from: WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (see file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME details on file directories and descriptions.) Archives of past issues of the Info-IBMPC Digest are available from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL in directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC>. WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL can be accessed using LISTSERV commands from BITNET via LISTSERV@NDSUVM1, LISTSERV@RPIECS, LISTSERV@FINTUVM and in Europe from EARN TRICKLE servers. Send commands to TRICKLE@<host-name> (example: TRICKLE@TREARN). The following TRICKLE servers are presently available: AWIWUW11 (Austria), BANUFS11 (Belgium), DKTC11 (Denmark), DB0FUB11 (Germany), IMIPOLI (Italy), EB0UB011 (Spain) TAUNIVM (Israel) and TREARN (Turkey). Send Replies or notes for publication to: <INFO-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Send requests of an administrative nature (addition to, deletion from the distribution list, et al) to: <INFO-IBMPC-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue Dec 19 13:30:12 GMT 1989 From: Mike O'Carroll <lena!mike@relay.EU.net> Subject: Adding 5.25" External Drives to PS/2 Model 30s > I have two questions on adding a 5.25" external drive to each of the two > PS/2 model 30. We solved the reverse problem in adding a combined tape streamer/floppy interface to a PC/AT. This was done by means of a special cable made by Christie, and put in place of the normal drive B: cable. A switch on the back plate allows you to switch between the internal drive and the external socket. Whether they do the same thing for the PS/2 30, I don't know. Mike O'Carroll, Microsystems Unit, University of Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK E-mail: @ukc.ac.uk:mike@ee.leeds.ac.uk UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!lena!mike or mike@lena.uucp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 16:22:42 EST From: Peter Jones <MAINT%UQAM.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> Subject: Dental Office Automation Package On Mon, 4 Dec 89 15:22:13 mez, cgch!bpistr@relay.EU.net said: > > Does anyone have any information on >office automation type systems for medical >offices, particularly a dental practice. My dentist uses a turnkey system from: EXAN Quebec 7750 Henri-Bourassa Ouest Suite 102 Ville ST Laurent H4S 1W3 Company Rep: Jean-Pierre Germain Telephone: (514)-333-1033 Peter Jones MAINT@UQAM (514)-987-3542 "Life's too short to try and fill up every minute of it" :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 89 23:21:26 GVA From: Revised List Processor (1.5o) <LISTSERV%CEARN.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: File: "IBMPC-L MAIL" being sent to you Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by CEARN.cern.ch (Mailer R2.05) with BSMTP id 1801; Mon, 18 Dec 89 18:14:25 GVA Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 5590; Mon, 18 Dec 89 14:18:40 GMT Received: Via: UK.AC.ED.EMAS-A; 18 DEC 89 14:18:27 GMT Date: 18 Dec 89 14:18:02 gmt From: N.Mooljee@EDINBURGH.AC.UK Subject: re-transmission To: ibmpc-l@CEARN Message-ID: <18 Dec 89 14:18:02 gmt 010173@EMAS-A> Would it be possible for you to resend the last 9 messages . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 89 19:38:38 EST From: Curt Priest <BMSLIB@mitvma.mit.edu> Subject: Hypertext for the PC DOS environment A recent inquiry asked about hypertext for the IBM PC (in contrast with the Macintosh World). My close friend and colleague, Kirt Olson of the Harvard Group has maintained a close interest in this area and volunteered a reply. [Kirt Olson, P.O. Box 667K, Harvard, MA 01451 (508-456-8678)]. Hypertexts for the IBM PC Telephone numbers are given for calls originating in USA Locations in USA unless country is specified COMMERCIAL--run under DOS on PC's unless noted (shareware below) NAME COMPANY LOCATION TELEPHONE Unannounced, Asymetrix, Bellevue, WA [Windows] Office 206-462-0501 Architect, Hyperdoc, Inc., San Jose, CA 408-978-2042 Descartes, Echelon Development Corp., Burlington, MA [Windows] Office 617-229-2740 DynaDoc, Maxthink, Kensington, CA [Word Perfect Library/Office] Office 415-540-5508 BBS 415-540-6114 Guide, Owl International, Bellevue, WA 800-344-9737 206-747-3203 Help! Development Kit, Flambeaux Software, Glendale, CA Office 818-500-0044 Orders 800-833-7355 x 1233 in CA 800-358-4477 x 1233 HyPlus, MaxThink, Kensington, CA Office 415-540-5508 BBS 415-540-6114 Hyperpad, Brightbill-Roberts, Syracuse, NY Office 315-474-3400 BBS 315-472-1058 Hyperties, Cognetics Corporation, Princeton Junction, NJ Office 609-799-5005 Plus, Spinnaker Software, Cambridge, MA [Windows, OS/2] Office 617-494-1200 Utopia codename, Soft Image Systems, Ltd, London, England, W1R 9PN 44-1-629-6976 800-525-2809 Windowbook, The Box Company, Cambridge, MA 617-576-0892 COMMERCIAL--Combined with expert system, need AT or better First Class HT, First Class Expert Systems, Inc, Wayland, MA Knowledge Pro, Knowledge Garden, Nassau, NY 518-766-3000 SHAREWARE--All run under DOS on PC/XT/AT Black Magic, NTERGAID, Fairfield, CT Office 203-360-0632 BBS 203-366-5698 HyperRez, MaxThink, Kensington, CA Office 415-540-5508 BBS 415-540-6114 Hypershell, Text Technology, Cheshire, England SK10 3DE PC-Browse, Quicksoft, Inc., Seattle, WA 206-282-0452 800-888-8088 PC-Hypertext, MaxThink, Kensington, CA Office 415-540-5508 BBS 415-540-6114 On PC's, hypertext suffers from two big barriers. First, there are five display systems: MDA, Herc, CGA, EGA, and VGA. Second, no program is universal in the way that all Macs have Hypercard. All display systems can create the 255 symbols of IBM's extended ASCII set, providing character graphics. All displays can control attributes (bright, normal, inverse, blink, and underline) of each of 2000 characters in an 80x25 screen. Screens with attributes other than normal text use a non-ASCII file format. ASCII files and text-mode screen files are universal but not interchangeable. If the screen shows diagonal lines or curves, it uses another adaptor-specific format. That's a barrier to full graphics. (VGA and EGA cards can emulate the lower modes, but graphics created in EGA mode need another program to be translated to, say, Hercules.) Because no program defines a standard for PC hypertext, files for different systems lack the interchangeability of Hypercard stacks. Programs using ASCII text files with a royalty-free reader come closest to being universal. Every PC can make and read such files and there is no cost barrier to getting the reader. Although the ASCII files can be interchanged among systems, the link markers may need changing and the user interfaces of readers differ. Implementations vary dramatically, from the basic text-link-only capability of HyperRez to multi-media capabilities. Hyperpad is designed to be very like HyperCard, but character-based. Others implement various visions of what hypertext should be. IBM has four entries: Audio Visual Connection (AVC) is a multiimedia package, OS/2 v. 1.2 contains the BOCA Help Manager built-in, Info Window supports a touch screen and videodisc interface on the PS/2 and there's a product called Linkways. All the application products are in the education market. Call your local IBM marketing office or dealer for information. Guide and Plus are available on both PC's and Macs and both have file converters for Mac/PC readability of their own files. Plus can translate HyperCard files on the Mac, then any supported system can exchange Plus files. Descartes can read the Mac HyperCard stack code directly, but you must rewrite any XCMDS or XFCNS for the equivalent act on the PC. Coming from the HyperCard experience, expect these differences: Authoring, reading and interactive reading are split in some packages. Text, graphics, and sound are not always integrated. Some systems can jump to, but not from, graphics. Not all systems can execute DOS commands. Some systems (including HyperRez and Help!) can pop up over other applications. Many systems lack a graphical browser. Many systems cannot maintain an independent sense of sequence (earlier, later or previous, next) among nodes so first and last become undefinable concepts. All five shareware products are worth examining. You can build usable systems in every one, but they differ. Each comes with sample applications and documentation so you can develop insights into what's possible. MaxThink's BBS is a good source for examples of the free systems, HyperRez and PC-Hypertext. ------------------------------ Date: Mon Dec 18 19:04:57 1989 From: microsoft!toddw@beaver.cs.washington.edu Subject: Bug(?) in Microsoft's Quick-C (Version 1.01) loop optimizer In Info-IBMPC Digest, V89 #115, Guy Sirton described what he thought was a bug in MicroSoft QuickC V1.01 when using the -Ox (really -Ol switch): |From: Guy Sirton <MLSIRTON%WEIZMANN.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> | |While working on a project, some piece of C code started giving me |problems. [...] The code was compiled with QCL's /Ox option and |switching to /Od cured the problem. Further attempts narrowed the |problem to the /Ol switch. Experimenting with Microsoft's C 5.1 |generated CORRECT code with /Ox. [...] The code compiles and runs correctly -Ox using QuickC 2.0, which is the current version of Microsoft QuickC. Microsoft posts the bug lists for the optimizing compiler on the compuserve and GEnie networks on our appropriate forums. In addition, if a user finds a new unique and verifyable bug in the compiler, that user is eligible for a free upgrade to the next version of Microsoft C. For a bug to be verifyable, we need the source, compile options and complete description of host environment to reproduce the problem. Thanks. Todd Warren Program Manager-Microsoft C ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 89 20:13 MDT From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@cc.usu.edu> Subject: Defining Keys with MS-Kermit Two small MS Kermit items appeard in the latest batch of this Digest and maybe I can help with them. First a person remarked that the Enter key on his XT could not be defined separately from the keypad Enter key. That's true for many XT's which have a Bios reporting them to be exactly the same key. My Zenith 150 does this. Second, a person desired to turn off Kermit's error checking because he had error checking modems on the wire. There is no way of turning off Kermit's error checking and it would not be wise in any case. First, the error checking in MS Kermit is so fast as to not use measurable time (but that's not the case on non-DOS systems). Secondly, one wants end to end checks, not just part way through a modem to the same on the other side. For example, if one PC were to lose a character due to cpu competition with disk or other factors the modems would notice nothing wrong (and from their perspective everything would be fine). Flow control is another area where end to end control really makes a difference. The whole business of protocols and packet construction is built around the concept that things can and will go wrong in subtle ways, and the details are present to cope without making false conclusions or storing bad data. Nothing is perfect, but bureaucracy wins this battle. If you think that this is still overkill then imagine what might happen if the RS232 plug came loose on that modem, or the disk filled up, or other things outside the scope of modems. Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 89 16:40:22 pst From: Danny Low <dlow@hpspcoi.hp.com> Subject: Norton on 4.01 CHUCKM%UCRVMS.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU wrote describing a bug with Norton Utilities V4.5: Version 4.5 of the Norton Utilities will work on DOS 4.01. There is still a potential problem. It is possible to create enough files or directories to overflow internal counters in the utilities. Fortunately the numbers are rather large and should not affect most users. Danny Low "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You" Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley HP SPCD dlow%hpspcoi@hplabs.hp.com ...!hplabs!hpspcoi!dlow [As described in a late 1988 issue of PC Magazine there IS a bug in V4.5 in that V4.5 MAY not do the right things only when used with IBM PC DOS 4.0 (or higher)! I forget exactly what the symptoms are to determine if the bug is present. An upgrade to fix the bug is free. Write a note to Peter Norton Computing, Inc., 100 Wilshire Boulevard, 9th Floor, Santa Monica CA 90401. Tell them you'd like the upgrade that fixes the DOS 4.0X bugs. I requested the fix at the same time I registered my V4.5 with them. You'll get back one self-extracting archive on an appropriately sized diskette with instructions. Turnaround time when I requested the upgrade from my home here in Korea was approximately 13 days. (Means no time was lost trying to find the bug or disputing my claim...) gph] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 14:23:12 CDT From: Brian Piersel <SPBK09%SDNET.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU> Subject: Norton Utilities for DOS 4.x Advanced Norton Utilities 4.5 (I think...the latest version, whatever it is) works fine with DOS 4.0. Older versions of Norton Utilities don't seem to work, however. Just upgrade to the latest version. - Brian Piersel BITNET: SPBK09@SDNET Internet: SPBK09%SDNET.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 89 08:33:00 EDT From: "CMSGT LARRY KELLY" <kellyl@gw2.hanscom.af.mil> Subject: Telix My version of Telix is 3.11. I haven't heard of a newer version. The documentation contains a registration form ( $35.00 / $44.00 (CAN) ), Mail to: EXIS Inc, PO Box 130, West Hill, ONT, M1E 4R4, Canada. There is a BBS: (416) 439-8293. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 07:58 EST From: "Cameron Caffee : W300F-2 : 222-6278" <CAFFEEC%sdi.polaroid.com@RELAY.CS.NET> Subject: Zmodem for VM/CMS - Not Likely ... There is a basic problem implementing Zmodem or any of its predecessors (Xmodem, Ymodem, etc.) on a traditional IBM operating environment (VM/MVS): IBM gives only limited support to ASCII communications. Anytime they have, its been only via a 7 bit + parity bit data connection. This presents the developers of file transfer software with the obvious problem of pushing 8 bits of information through a 7 bit pipe. They all do this using a variety of techniques but the goal is the same. Z, X, and Y modem are all 8 bit file transfer protocols, unlikely to be implemented in a traditional IBM environment. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 11:02:44 SET From: Johan Berteloot <JBERTELO%RKC.UFSIA.AC.BE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: 1MegaByte RAM on a IBM-PC/XT I happen to have a museum computer system: a "real" XT-clone (whatever real might mean in this context) and I recently discovered that it has 1 MegaByte RAM chips on its motherboard. I use MS-DOS 3.20. Is there some way to use the newdiscovered 384Kb? Perhaps as extended memory for a large spreadsheet or as a Ramdrive? How can I do that? Any suggestions are welcome and I thank you in advance. Johan P.S. I wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Computer Center University of Antwerp | Any solution to a problem JBERTELO@BANUFS11.BITNET | is a new problem | Goethe User support department | ------------------------------ Date: 18 Dec 89 16:46:02 GMT From: mttpk@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Binsbergen G.van) Subject: Digital LN03 and Wordperfect 5.0 I am looking for a printer driver for the LN03. It should support the features of the PLUS-version, i.e. the TIMES-fonts. The Wordperfect Corp only supports the fonts Courier and Elite. Info on how to install such a printer with the PTR-program is also useful. Thanks! Harry Van Binsbergen, PTT Research, Neherlabs, Holland. [ Please respond via Email: G_vBinsbergen@pttrnl.nl ] [ UUCP: ..!hp4nl!dnlunx!harryb ] [ BITnet: MTTPK@HLSDNL5 ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 13:22:12 EST From: Don Malpass <malpass@ll-vlsi.arpa> Subject: external 5" floppy on Zenith SuperSport-286 Has anyone with a Zenith SuperSport-286 laptop connected its External Disk Drive Connector to a 5 1/4 inch drive and made it work? If not, can you suggest the right person at ZDS (are they still doing customer support now that they were sold off?) for me to call? (Z-100 readers may stop with that question or read on if curious.) I tried this hookup last night, and although the motor spins, the drive LED never comes on, and the software times out with the typical abort-retry msg. I've done this trick successfully from my Sharp laptop, (different pinout, naturally) so it can be done, so the fault is not with the drive, and I think I must therefore know how to fudge the drive-select signals. But the 286 manual's connector pinout provides only "Drive Select 3" and "Drive Select 2", which from other information I deduce should go low when drive D: and C: are selected, respectively. The Setup menu appears to install the drive as "B:" if told there's an external drive. And even if I've added a config.sys line device=c:\bin\driver.sys /f:0 /d:01 [or /d:02 or 03 or 04 or 05. I don't think I tried 00] ... I still can't seem to wiggle the "Drive Select 3 (pin 2)" signal low afterwards. "DS-2" does indeed seem to stay low most of the time, since hard disk C: is what's usually called for (even more of the time than I would have expected: e.g. during much of A: operations). WHAT AM I MISSING? What does it take to assert pin 2, and why can't I make the drive D: (although I'd still have to assert pin 2)? And just for the hellovit, can an ancient and honerable 8" drive be controlled in this way? (I haven't looked at the signals required yet.) Don Malpass [malpass@LL-vlsi.arpa], [malpass@gandalf.LL.mit.edu] "Why should the TAXPAYERS have to pay for it - let the GOVERNMENT pay instead." [Example of the mentality that got us in this mess.] 12/89 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 16:24:12 SET From: Marc <TE891466@STUDMBA.UFSIA.AC.BE> Subject: Documentation on RS-232 Interface desired 1) I'm looking for a good book where a could find a technical description of the RS-232 interface. Do you have any suggestion? 2) I've got a PS/2 50 in my office and Dos 3.3. This computer has a 1Mb Ram capacity. But what can I do to use the 360 Kb which are over the 640 barrier. 3) When I develop a program, I use Turbo Pascal 5.0. I would like to know how it is possible to use all the potentialities of my VGA card, i.e. to display 256 colours. Perhaps could you tell me the physical address of the VGA card? Every hint, clue will be very appreciated. Marc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 07:56:17 EST From: youssef@NADC.ARPA (P. Youssef) Subject: Printer Driver for Mitsubishi Color Printer/Plotter wanted I am in need for a printer driver for mitsubishi color line printer/plotter model G 650 to run harvard graphics. I called both HG and Mitsubishi and I did not get anywhere. I anyone has such driver would you please send a copy (or tell me how to get it...) Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 15:07:07 EST From: Joel Saunders <RJFS%SNYCENVM.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 v2.1 - Format of .WK1 file I am in the middle of a project that will require creating a LOTUS file from a comma separated or SDF file that is greater than 240 characters in length. I have gotten data to LOTUS via DBASE and other means, but I think that I would like to try to support the WK1 format directly. If anyone could help point me to the proper reference materials I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Joel P.S. All I need is to get data into the row and column format. I'm not concerned with Print Settings and etc. @ __ JOEL F. SAUNDERS ( ) RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF S.U.N.Y. / \/ SUNY PLAZA - BROADWAY F209 __/_______________ /\ ALBANY, NEW YORK 12246 / / / / (___ / \ (_/ (____/ (_______/ \__ Special Projects Consultant BITNET: RJFS AT SNYCENVM AT&T : (518) 434-7200 [Take a look in file <msdos.lotus123>LOTUS89.ARC (10,752 k). It provides a list of currently avialable books on Lotus 1-2-3 (autumn, 1989 edition). gph] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 89 18:52:21 EST From: Jim Streb <STREB%YORKVM2.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> Subject: UniPlex Word Processing Package info wanted We are trying to track down a word processing package called Uniplex. If anyone has any information about this product, please send me a note. If someone could supply an address for the manufacturer, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 10:34:48 -0500 (EST) From: John Duchowski <jd3a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Where is XXENCODE.ARC? Hi there, According to a post in one of the digests (in November ?), the file XXENCODE.ARC with sources in C was supposed to be located in PD1:<MSDOS.FILUTL>. Last Friday I looked for it there and in several other directories (SYSUTL, UUCP, etc) but couldn't find it. Would you please tell me where it is located ? Thank You, John Duchowski ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1989 00:03 MST From: Keith Petersen <w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: EM87-V11.ARC - 8087 math coprocessor emulator for AT or 386 [--forwarded message--] From: Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU I have uploaded this file to SIMTEL20: pd1:<msdos.sysutl> EM87-V11.ARC 8087 math coprocessor emulator for AT or 386 --- Thanks, Ralf! --Keith ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest ************************ -------