Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ("Info-IBMPC Digest") (02/10/90)
Info-IBMPC Digest Sat, 10 Feb 90 Volume 90 : Issue 15 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Chinhae Korea <GHICKS@WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil> Today's Topics: Table of Contents for the Info-IBMPC digest MSC vs. Turbo C (2 msgs) Leading (?) Edge problems (2 msgs) Info request for XDOS WINDOWS vs DESQview Memory usage Problems with PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME Today's Queries: 80/85 ns for 25MHz 386? Apple Talk for PS/2 Are there any MCA vendors out there? Manual needed for IBM 3852 Color Printer Re: 3D function plotting and surface modelling software Info requested on UNIX/pcDOS software laserprinter for an IBM XT Looking for PS/2 386 logo Reboot of PC WINDOWS, Serial Mouse and COMPAQ 386 Viewing GX2 files Borland Turbo Basic v1. New Programs: C_MENUS1.ARC - Pop-Up menu library for Turbo C programs CSHOW80A.ARC - GIF/MAC/RLE view/print, Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA Recent msdos uploads to SIMTEL20 Send Replies or notes for publication to: <INFO-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Send requests of an administrative nature (addition to, deletion from the distribution list, et al) to: <INFO-IBMPC-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> The Lending Library is available from: WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (see file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME details on file directories and descriptions.) Archives of past issues of the Info-IBMPC Digest are available by FTP only from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL in directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC>. WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL can be accessed using LISTSERV commands from BITNET via LISTSERV@NDSUVM1, LISTSERV@RPIECS, LISTSERV@FINTUVM and in Europe from EARN TRICKLE servers. Send commands to TRICKLE@<host-name> (example: TRICKLE@TREARN). The following TRICKLE servers are presently available: AWIWUW11 (Austria), BANUFS11 (Belgium), DKTC11 (Denmark), DB0FUB11 (Germany), IMIPOLI (Italy), EB0UB011 (Spain) TAUNIVM (Israel) and TREARN (Turkey). If you are unable to access SIMTEL20 via Internet FTP or through one of the BITNET/EARN file servers, most MSDOS SIMTEL20 files, including the PC-Blue collection, are available for downloading on the Detroit Download Central network at 313-885-3956. DDC is a networked system with multiple lines that support 300, 1200, 2400, and 9600 bps (HST) at a cost of 17 cents per hour. It is also accessable on Telenet via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via StarLink outdial. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 11:51:49 GMT From: Christopher Currie (IHR) <THRA004%mvs.ulcc.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK> Subject: Table of Contents for the Info-IBMPC digest The digested archive, of which I append the read.me file below, may be of interest. Christopher Although back numbers of Info-IBMPC Digest are available in the U.S. on Simtel20 and in the U.K. at NPDSA, Lancaster, it is very difficult to locate items in them quickly because there appear to be no indexes, and the total amount of text is vast. I have therefore extracted the table of contents for each issue which has reached me, and stored it as a separate file in a cumulative archive. This facilitates searching (particularly if you have an archive viewer) and would also facilitate a proper index if anyone has the time and energy to compile one. Digcnt89.arc contains the tables of contents for Info-IBMPC Digest, vol. 89, from the first one that reached me (Issue 49, 4 May 1989) to issue 128 (December). There are some gaps for issues which did not arrive. Moreover, although most of the files are ASCII, some were edited in WordStar format before saving. If a file looks funny when you list or type it, pass it through an 8th-bit filter and it will be legible. Vernon Buerg's LIST program has a built-in filter to do the job. I also have somewhere an archive for the first half of 1987, and I have begun one for 1990. I hope some public-spirited person may be persuaded to fill the gaps. Christopher Currie, Institute of Historical Research, London, 31 Jan. 1990. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 89 17:38 PST From: CHEINEMANN%SCU.BITNET@jade.berkeley.edu Subject: MSC vs. Turbo C We had just about settled upon MSC as our standard PC C when a problem arose. We had chosen MSC since it seemed to be the "standard" by which other PC C's are judged. Well, we had an application that we were developing that at one point required changing from small model to a larger model (COMPACT or LARGE as I recall). When compiled in either of the new modes, very subtle bugs crept in... no program crashes, but invalid data appeared in some areas of the output file. For grins, we compiled it with Turbo C in the new modes and it worked fine. As you might guess, we have now settled upon Turbo C as our principle PC C. Carl Fussell Santa Clara Univ. CARL@SCU.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Wed Nov 15 15:50:16 1989 From: microsoft!davewe@beaver.cs.washington.edu Subject: RE: MSC vs. Turbo C I don't have much to say since I didn't get much information from the mail - not even a version number, much less what options were used, etc. Its possible that they found a bug in the compiler (note that complete bug lists for C 5.1 - and I assume that is what they are using, are available on CompuServe and via the Genie OnLine service). However, if they happened to use the /Oa switch (or /Ox, which also implies /Oa) its also possible that it could be an aliasing problem in their code that doesn't appear when compiled in small model, but shows up in large model because the parse trees look different (near addresses vs. far addresses, for example) thus causing the code generator to take a different path and generate "incorrect" code (due to the incorrect assumption of no aliasing implied by /Oa). In the latter case the fix might be as simple as turning off the /Oa switch. Using /Oa requires the user to take some care when programming, but can reap large benefits in code quality when used properly. Since it is fairly easy to generate aliasing in C code, it is not uncommon for a piece of code developed without keeping this in mind to fail when compiled with /Oa. Often it is also fairly easy to modify the code where the aliasing occurs to prevent it. Note that TC does not have a equivalent switch and always makes more conservative assumptions - as does MSC when /Oa is not used. However, neither can it generate as efficient code for programs which are written more carefully. As an example of the benefits of writing this way, the development group for the LAN Manager project at MS found cases where they got as much as 30% code size improvement when compiling with /Oa versus without. We will contact Mr Fussel directly to see if we can help him determine the cause of his problem. Thanks for the opportunity to comment, Dave Weil Microsoft Corp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 89 14:10:04 CST From: Derek Morgan <C03601DM%WUVMD.BITNET@UICVM.uic.edu> Subject: Leading (?) Edge problems Has anybody had problems installing MicroSoft C 5.1 on Leading Edge model D-2's? Version 5.0 installs and works just fine. Quick Basic v4.0 doesn't work at all, either. If there are any patches out there, please let me know. AdvTHANKSance, Derek Morgan Washington University Medical Computing Services Group ------------------------------ Date: Tue May 23 17:41:25 1989 From: microsoft!davewe@beaver.cs.washington.edu Subject: Leading Edge Problems I suspect Derek's problem is that the SETUP program for C 5.1 does not run on machines which are not VERY strict IBM compatibles because it was built as a bound application (runs under either OS/2 or DOS) and the VIO* routines in the API emulation library were written such that only VERY strict compatibles will work. We did not know this beforehand and it never came up during internal or Beta testing (I can understand the former, but the latter is a little surprising....). This is only a problem for DOS users (OS/2 won't run on these machines anyway - which is probably why the emulation routines didn't bother to support them), but a nasty one. Once this was discovered the Product Support group was given a DOS only version of SETUP that does not have those problems. A call to MS Product Support will get him the new SETUP. Dave Weil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 8:19:42 EST From: Tom Harrison <tharriso@xls-plexus01.letterkenn-emh1.army.mil> Subject: Info request for XDOS TO: Yaron Adler New York University From the literature I have on the product XDOS is marketed by: Hunter Systems 44 Castro Street Mountain View, CA 94041 (415) 965-2400 The product provides the capability to transform IBM PC-DOS binary programs into "high performance UNIX programs." Testing done by the US Army's General Purpose Computer Support Center (GPCSC) on commercially available software indicates that not all of the functionality of the PC product is available to the UNIX-implementation after the conversion/transformation. Additionally, there are licensing costs for the converted commercial PC software which is usually based upon the number of users of the PC software. PERSONAL OPINION <I.E., not necessarily that of my organization, the US Army or the US Government>: depending upon the number of users vs. the number of PC's for each user, this could be a rather costly solution. The XDOS product consist of the following utilities: NLZ - the program analyzer - the front end to the conversion process BIBGEN - Binary Code Generator - take the output from NLZ to generate UNIX object file which contains "debugging info" XDOS Run-Time - routines that map DOS and BIOS call to UNIX Converter - reads PC binaries and corresponding program key files to produce an executable UNIX program Key File Manager - intergates all PC files and program key files that make up an application package Above info obtained from vendor literature. More complete info and pricing can be obtained from Hunter Systems . Thomas E. Harrison USAMC SIMA UNIX Team Leader ATTN: AMXSI-TLB AV: 570-9166 COMMERCIAL: (717) 267-9166 Chambersburg, PA 17201-4180 E Mail: tharriso@letterkenn-emh1.army.mil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 10:00:53 CST From: moore@ncsc.navy.mil (Moore) Subject: WINDOWS vs DESQview Memory usage [Jim asked about problems with HIMEM.SYS and DESQview. By the time I had a chance to answer him, he had an answer from Quarterdeck. He requested his message be pulled, but I asked that he publish his findings in case others had the same problems. This message is in response to that request.] You're right, of course. I just felt rather stupid because I thought I could get something for nothing (i.e., use BOTH the HMA and HIMEM area, but of course they're the same memory space 8-( ). DESQview's e-mail response (fast, too!) is attached, in case you think it helpful. Sorry for the clutter, I'll do better next time. When I have run Windows inside DESQview, I have taken HIMEM.SYS out. The reason is that DESQview wants to use the same area. The new QEMM Version 5 (if you are registered you will get an upgrade letter soon) includes complete XMS support so you will have all the HIMEM features without needing that driver. If you want to keep trying this, you can put HIMIM in the CONFIG.SYS file BEFORE the QEMM.SYS line. Also, when you start DESQview, you can put DV /X=FFFE-FFFF which will keep DESQview from using the QEXT area (which is what we call the HMA). **** Quarterdeck **** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1989 08:05 MST From: Keith Petersen <w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME > Would you like to discuss on some possible reasons of why > (1) the file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME is not readable on the VAX? This is a text file. LISTSERV sends everything in BITSEND format unless you tell it otherwise in your request. SIMTEL20 does not run the servers. Questions about LISTSERV and TRICKLE should be addressed to the system administrator at the host where the server is. > and > (2) some archive files could not be unarchived properly on my PC using > XARC.com after I download them from listserv@rpiecs to the VAX, and > from the VAX to the PC. Specifically, the archive file that I > downloaded and that had the problem is > PD1:<MSDOS.MODEM>GT1501-1.ARC Your XARC is too old. It doesn't know about squashed archive members in some of the newer ARCs. Get PK361.EXE from the PD1:<MSDOS.STARTER> directory. --Keith Petersen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1990 16:41:33 EDT From: The Time Traveler <HE891C%GWUVM.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: 80/85 ns for 25MHz 386? I have an IBM PS/2 70-A21, a 25Mhz 386 machine with a 64Kb static ram cache (I think 35ns) and 2Mb of 80-ns memory on the system board (the standard configuration. I think it's 80ns at least). Anyway, I would like to know the performance penalty of adding 85ns SIMMs instead of 80ns SIMMs, to either the mother board or an expansion card. Will it generate an extra wait state? The Time Traveler, HE891C@GWUVM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 11:35:30 LCL From: David Gardner <HQDG%PSUORVM.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu> Subject: Apple Talk for PS/2 Am trying to determine if I can connect a TOPS network of Macs and a PS/2. Have been told that there is no problem connect an XT or AT but that there are no cards for the micro channel systems. This seems a little odd to me. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 22:30:58 CDT From: david@wubios.wustl.edu (David J. Camp) Subject: Are there any MCA vendors out there? I have been having difficulty locating vendors of MCA equipment. Does anyone have a list of MCA card manufacturers, or a favorite one they would like to recommend? We are at this time looking for a multi-function card, like an AST Advantage, but for an MCA. It should have 3 or more serial ports, and extra goodies are welcome. -David- Bitnet: david@wubios.wustl ^ Mr. David J. Camp Internet: david%wubios@wugate.wustl.edu < * > Box 8067, Biostatistics uucp: uunet!wugate!wubios!david v 660 South Euclid Washington University (314) 36-23635 Saint Louis, MO 63110 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 11:53 EST From: AKONST@Venus.YCC.Yale.Edu Subject: Manual needed for IBM 3852 Color Printer I recently acquired a used IBM 3852 Color Printer. I have in vain tried to obtain a manual from IBM. I would appreciate if someone sent to me a xerox copy of the command codes for that printer, or suggested a source where I could get such information. My adress is: e-mail: THANASIS%DOCHE@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU (Internet) or DOE@YALEVM (Bitnet) o(rdinary)-mail: Athanasios G. Konstandopoulos Department of Chemical Engineering Yale University PO Box 2159 YS New Haven, CT 06520, USA FAX: (203) 432-7232 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 18:02:49 EST From: PT182286@ADMIN.CARLETON.CA Subject: Re: 3D function plotting and surface modelling software Does anybody have experience with some shareware or public domain software for plotting perspective and contour representations of functions of two variables, ie. surface plotting. I am looking for some programs that can plot such functions with a variety of meshing algorithms (cartesian, polar, etc.) with hidden line removal. Something like GNUPLOT, but for 3D representations would be ideal. Some form of surface shading would also be useful, but needn't be too fancy. I need a possibility to obtain hard-copy output, preferably at better than screen resolution. On the side, I am also interested in programs that can model objects specified as points in 3-space, with the same general considerations as above. In the SIMTEL archives, I've noticed programs called 3DPLOT02, SURFMO SURFMODL, IRIT, and 3DSURFAC. Does anybody have experience with any of these. What can they do? Please reply to me; I will summarize to the net. Thanks, Martin Pergler (.PT182286@ or WCSMP@Carleton.CA) ------------------------------ Date: Tue 30 Jan 90 14:40:41-EDT From: Yaron Adler <YADLER%NYBVX1.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu> Subject: Info requested on UNIX/pcDOS software Hi, Does anyone have info on two software packages by the names of SoftDOS and XDOS? I would appreciate any info you may have including vendor/author. I believe that these packages provide some sort of connection between pcDOS and UNIX systems. Please respond directly to me as I do not subscribe to the INFO-IBMPC list. Thanks much, Yaron Adler New York University Bitnet address: yadler@nybvx1.bitnet or yadler@vx1.gba.nyu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 02:24:46 EST From: Christopher Chung <CHRIS@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: laserprinter for an IBM XT I have friend that has two IBM XTs and would like to buy a laser printer to be shared between the two computers. The primary programs he runs are Wordstar, Lotus and DBase III. He would like to able to use many different fonts, and different sizes and styles. The first question is what would be the best printer to buy for compatibility among all 3 of these software packages and the types of character formats he would like to use? I have heard the HP laserjet II(?) is pretty good but has to have different cartridges installed for each font. Is there a way to make it software switchable, say from the program itself and have the fonts downloaded or have several in the printer already loaded? Is there a way to make more than one computer access the printer without having to switch cables. Is there some kind of automatic switchbox that will auto switch from one computer to the other when it sees data coming down the line? Generally, he wants a laser printer that is flexible and can easily control the fonts through software. Any recommendations, good or bad? Please send any replies directly to me as I don't get a chance to read the list as often as I like. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer, Chris Chung CHRIS@BROWNVM.BITNET CHRIS@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 12:04:38 EDT From: The Time Traveler <HE891C%GWUVM.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Looking for PS/2 386 logo Does anyone remember those advertisements for PS/2 70 machines, that had a picture of a 70 with a very colorful "386" on the screen? It looked like somthing you'd find on a racing car. Well, I'd like to get a copy of that image. Does anyone know where I can get it? It would make a cool startup screen! The Time Traveler, HE891C@GWUVM ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 90 14:39:45+0100 From: Torstein Ravnskog <ravnskog%rose.uib.uninett@nac.no> Subject: Reboot of PC Does anybody have a simple assembler (or Turbo Pascal or Turbo C) routine to do the Ctrl-Alt-Del reboot? I am making a routine that is reconfiguring some PC-parameters, and I want this routine to reboot the PC by itself. Torstein Ravnskog "The Raven" Dept. of Biochem, Univ. of Bergen, Norway Earn/Bitnet: MBITR@NOBERGEN ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 90 15:19:15 GMT From: ileaf!io!enos!lae@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Larry Enos) Subject: WINDOWS, Serial Mouse and COMPAQ 386 Problem: I cannot get Windows 386 (Rev 2.11) to work with a serial mouse on my Compag 386. Hardware: Compaq Deskpro 386 (16 mHz) with 4 Meg. RAM; ROM BIOS Rev. M.1, Family G 3COM Ethernet Adaptor (3c501) at interrupt 7 I set up Windows to use a Microsoft Mouse, as directed in both the Windows and mice documentation. When I start Windows, the mouse pointer appears, but does not respond when I move the mouse. However, if I run in a window a standard DOS applications that uses a mouse, the mouse works just fine. I also have no problem using the mice when running programs outside of Windows. The problem exists whether I install the mouse on COM1: or COM2: and whether I load the mouse driver with CONFIG.SYS or at the DOS command level (both vendors supply both kinds of drivers). I've tested the system out thoroughly, and can find no problem. (It passes the Compaq diagnostics without a hitch.) Some other things I have tried: 1) Removing the second I/O card and the Ethernet card (so it doesn't seem to be an interrupt conflict) 3) Switching cards around 4) Changing the serial port settings in WIN.INI (the mouse S/W sets the serial port) 5) Setting the TEMP environment variable (at the suggestion of Microsoft technical support) 6) Enabling and disabling SMARTdrive 7) Removing all TSR programs 8) All of the above 9) etc...etc... Finally, I've spent time on the phone with both Mouse Systems and Microsoft technical support and followed all their suggestions--but to no avail. Has anyone else encountered problems installing Windows with a serial mouse? This is a rather serious problem for me since I have to use this product to test our own PC products, so I truly appreciate any help you can offer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 13:57:41 EST From: "Edward A. Band" (IMD-TSB) <eband@PICA.ARMY.MIL> Subject: Viewing GX2 files The GX2 file which was developed (I belive) by Bright-Bill Roberts & Co. is a screen image file that can be displayed by their software, HyperPAD and FXSHOW. It can also be created by Lotus Freelance+, and displayed using this software. Does anyone out there know of a Public domain program that can quickly display a GX2 file without using eiter Lotus's or Bright-Bill Robert's software. Both of these companys require Script (*.PRO) or Show (*.SHW) files to display thier software but for what I am doing (Displaying from a Turbo PASCAL program) these script files get in the way. What I would love to have is a program that can display a GX2 file simply by typing VIEW file.GX2 I realize that Bright-Bill Roberts has a program like this on thier BBS, but it only displays one color at a time and is rather slow. Anyone have a fast VIEW program for a GX2 file? Thanks, in Advance. Ed Band Computer Scientist U.S. Army RD+E Center Phone: (201)-724-7892 e-mail: eband@PICA.ARMY.MIL P.S: Please send your replys both to my e-mail address and IBMPC. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 90 17:49:53 +0100 From: Jan Engelen <FHEDA02%BLEKUL11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Borland Turbo Basic v1. Several times I had the problem that Borland's Turbo Basic limited the length of an output file to 65600 bytes. It the stops without any error or warning. I open the file with: OPEN "file.out" FOR OUTPUT AS 2 Does anyone know about a solution to this problem? Jan Engelen - Leuven - Belgium ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1990 12:52 MST From: Keith Petersen <w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: C_MENUS1.ARC - Pop-Up menu library for Turbo C programs [--forwarded message--] From: Karl Keyte <ESC1332%ESOC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> I have uploaded to SIMTEL20: pd1:<msdos.turbo-c> C_MENUS1.ARC Pop-Up menu library for Turbo C programs Regards, Karl Keyte Thanks, Karl! --Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1990 00:58 MST From: Keith Petersen <w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: CSHOW80A.ARC - GIF/MAC/RLE view/print, Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA [--forwarded message--] From: Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU I've uploaded the newest version of the CSHOW image viewer, which came across SDN (the Shareware Distribution Network on Fidonet), to SIMTEL20. pd1:<msdos.gif> CSHOW80A.ARC GIF/MAC/RLE view/print, Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA Ralf Thanks, Ralf! --Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1990 00:51 MST From: Keith Petersen <w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: Recent msdos uploads to SIMTEL20 I have uploaded the following files to SIMTEL20: pd1:<msdos.arc-lbr> AM446.ARC ArcMaster front-end/convert for .ARC/.ZIP/.LZH AVIEW37.ARC BBS util: view/extract files from archives ZZAP50A.ARC ZIP/ZOO/ARC/PAK/DWC file converter pd1:<msdos.at> ROM2.ARC Save AT and 386 CMOS data to file and restore pd1:<msdos.c> 3DLIB.ARC TC1.5 lib, create/manipulate/display 3D images pd1:<msdos.dbase> PCFDB5-1.ZIP Button's PCFile-dB v5.0, w/mouse support, 1of2 PCFDB5-2.ZIP Button's PCFile-dB v5.0, w/mouse support, 2of2 pd1:<msdos.dskutl> PCOPY83D.ARC Patriquin COPY, file copier with many options pd1:<msdos.editor> KAMAS24.ARC Outline/thought/idea processor pd1:<msdos.hamradio> GC103.ARC Hams: Great circle distances & bearings, w/src pd1:<msdos.printer> DMP201.ARC Resident print spooler, spools to disk, memory POSTPRN.ARC DOS 3.x PostScript Laser printer device driver pd1:<msdos.tex> DVIEPS.ARC TeX DVI to Epson dot matrix printer translator pd1:<msdos.trojan-pro> NETFIX10.ARC Scans LAN for 45 viruses, removes if found NETSCN57.ARC Network compatible - scan for 67 viruses, v57 SCANRS57.ARC Resident virus infection prevention program SCANV57.ARC VirusScan, scans disk files for 67 viruses pd2:<msdos2.telix> TFE_210.ARC Telix v3 dialing directory full-screen editor --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, & MISC archives [IP address 26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil, w8sdz@brl.arpa BITNET: w8sdz@NDSUVM1 Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest ************************ -------