Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ("Info-IBMPC Digest") (02/25/90)
Info-IBMPC Digest Sat, 24 Feb 90 Volume 90 : Issue 31 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Chinhae Korea <GHICKS@WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil> Today's Topics: Animation Software! File txfer problems LocalTalk for MCA Micro as FAX? Responding to Strange Domain Style names Problems with lithium batteries ProComm242 kermit file transfer PS/2 keyboard on an AT (responses) Rebooting the IBM PC Recycling diskettes Today's Query: Microsoft Windows 386 version 2.11 Send Replies or notes for publication to: <INFO-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Send requests of an administrative nature (addition to, deletion from the distribution list, et al) to: <INFO-IBMPC-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> The Lending Library is available from: WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (see file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME details on file directories and descriptions.) Archives of past issues of the Info-IBMPC Digest are available by FTP only from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL in directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC>. 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New files uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20 are usually available on DDC within 24 hours. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 13:18:00 PST From: follis@marlin.nosc.mil (Stan Follis) Subject: Animation Software! I have been using CRYSTAL 3-D for about 2 years and it should do what you want to do, however it may be over kill. It is a 3-D modeling and animation program which runs on a 80286 or 80386 machine with TARGA or VISTA graphics card and a LYON LAMB MINI VAS video tape controller. The animation function is quite sophisticated and allows for editing the motion paths of the objects, lights, camera and many other aspects of the scene. Recording can be done in wire-frame mode as well as in preview and final render modes. It is not a real time recording system, i.e. each image is created and then the recorder records the predetermined number of frames and the process starts over again. There is a mode to output to disk, but I have not tried this. The modeling function is very complete and even allows for metamorphosis of shapes, if created with splines. The distributor is TIME-ARTS INC., 1425 Corporate Center Parkway, Santa Rosa, CA 95407 (707)576-7722. I would be very much interested in learning of any other programs out there which do this type of work on either a PC, AMIGA, ATARI or MACINTOSH. I have found CRYSTAL 3-D very powerful, but not intuitive or user friendly. Disclaimer:I have no financial interest in CRYSTAL 3-D or TIME ARTS INC. and I am sure they have no interest in me. Stan Follisfollis@nosc.mil(619)553-4869 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 02:35:33 MST From: Gregory Hicks <GHICKS@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: File txfer problems Have you given the following command to the Unix kermit? SET FILE TYPE BINARY You don't have to do anything with your PC kermit, the remote Kermit will transfer the proper codes. Have you also done a TENEX command to your user FTP process? If this doesn't work, try a BINARY command to FTP, followed by a QUOTE TYPE 8 L to Simtel20. Regards, Gregory Hicks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 13:49:12 EST From: "Robert E. Zaret" <ZARET@mitvma.mit.edu> Subject: LocalTalk for MCA We have been using a LocalTalk board from: DayStar Digital 5556 Atlanta Highway Flowery Branch, GA 30542 (404) 967-2077 Fax: (404) 967-3018 To find nearest dealer: (800) 962-2077 I wasn't fully involved with the decision, so I don't know price or alternatives. We've had it since last summer, but don't use it heavily. Thus, I don't have strong opinions. The manual was difficult to decipher, but not needed once the board was installed. Otherwise, about all I can say is it works. The board is in an IBM PS/2 Model 80. We use it so we can run TOPS to pass files to and from a Macintosh SE. (TOPS runs in the OS/2 "DOS box", with care.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed Feb 21 23:49:27 1990 From: aprm!gd@shafter-emh2.army.mil Subject: Micro as FAX? Text: I have set up a Hayes JT-FAX 4800 here at the Resource Management office at WESTCOM. Our experience has been: 1. Excellent operation to local (on island) machines. 2. Mixed results with long distance. Fairly good exchanges with a machine at the pentagon, excellent with Intel's automated information system, lousey to Alaska and Japan. Culprits seem to be phone line quality and old FAX equipment at those sites. An Omnifax 35 in our building gets through to those machines, but rate is very slow. Ours just gives up. Hayes is working with us on it. 3. Excellent tech support from Hayes. 4. Faxes can be scanned on a supported scanner, or a PCX graphic file, or an ASCII text file. I think of the JT-FAX as a printer with the driver on my PC and the print mechinism at the other end of the phone line. Built-in fonts are clear, more readable than any standard FAX. 5. Supports good number of printers. Output on FX-100 class is readable, HP LaserJet II fantastic. And it's real paper, not that slimy stuff. FAX files can be viewed on screen, with zoom and pan. 6. The software is a hugh (140K) TSR, rendering the host PC unusable for many things. While FAXes are being processed the board "takes over" the machine. The Intel communications co-processor does not suffer this flaw. The JT-FAX 9600 may also get around that (anybody know?). 7. The software cannot be run with MS Windows or Enable. 8. The Admin lady who's machine it's in hates it because it interupts her work. Solution might be to put it on independent PC, but that eliminates the cost savings. 9. Our users still think of a FAX like a photocopier, a machine to stick a piece of paper into. It would be easier for them to use a common FAX machine than to fiddle with the PC and scanner. I am virtually alone in prefering to go from text file to FAX. Sigh. Hope this helps. Gary Dunn, WESTCOM DCSRM IMO | Ft. Shafter LAN: aprm!gd _ _ | DDN: aprm%gd@shafter-emh2.army.mil /.\ /.\| Work phone: (808) 438-2716 \_/|\_/ FAX: (808) 438-8954 | / In the game of life it's a good idea to have a few early losses, which relieves you of the pressure of trying to maintain an undefeated season. Bill Vaughan --- End of Message ----------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 04:12:49 MST From: Gregory Hicks <GHICKS@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: Responding to Strange Domain Style names Date: Wed Feb 21 23:49:27 1990 From: aprm!gd@shafter-emh2.army.mil > (I tried replying directly to Kalburgi Srinivas but it bounced right > back with "unknown domain "ca". Just how does one route mail from DDN > to an address like SRINIVAS%UREGINA1.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca?) I WAS just going to delete this paragraph from your response (or perhaps just put the answer in the text of your original response...) but on thinking about it, thought I should answer both you and the net since I've had my share of this type of response in the past few months. This problem is caused by the proliferation of gateway hosts. The BITNET host 'knows' what gateway is logically closest to the Internet, but YOUR host may not recognize the new gateway. (Perhaps you should talk to your host administrator and ask him to make more frequent updates to the host tables stored on your machine. This may not work since MOST MILnet hosts do not support DOMAIN style addressing yet.) How do you reply to such an address? One sends the reply through the 'official' BITNET gateway: CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU. For example: your response would go to <SRINNIVAS%UREGINA1.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>. The USENET gateway is: @UUNET.UU.NET. There are other hosts, but this one has been in the tables for a long time and is PROBABLY recognized everywhere. Users at USENET hosts have addresses of the form: <host!host!host!user>. Hope this helps. Gregory Hicks Editor, Info-IBMPC Digest ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 16:43:56 EST From: zielke@phy.duke.edu (David Zielke) Subject: Problems with lithium batteries While I have never used one, there is a company which markets a device called `last bat' or something like that. It is a rechargable nickle cad battery which is hooked into the motherboard power supply and thus is recharged any time the system is running. As batteries currently last you almost a year the circuit is probably working well enough to keep from running this type down over a few weeks or so. Thus running your machine once a month would probably keep it going. David Zielke zielke@physics.phy.duke.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 11:24:58 +0200 From: Guy Sirton <MLSIRTON%WEIZMANN.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: ProComm242 kermit file transfer Under procomm you do not need to "return to your PC" like when using kermit. Procomm receives commands via special keystrokes which in your case will probably be hitting the PageDown (for file download) and then selecting Kermit from the protocols menu. Also ALT-F10 (i think) should give you more help. Guy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 12:42:41 CST From: Don Kleinmuntz <DKLEIN@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: PS/2 keyboard on an AT (responses) Exactly a month ago I sent out a request for information about the prospects for attaching a PS/2 keyboard with a 6-pin DIN connector to an AT-compatible, which requires a 5-pin connector. I received a number of helpful (if conflicting) responses. Here is the story. There appear to be three alternatives: (1) Obtain an appropriate adapter. One reported source: Northgate Computer System (1-800-548-1993). I did not investigate this option, though there seems to be some confusion about whether the adapters go from din-6 to din-5 (which I need) or the reverse (which seem to be more readily available). (2) The do-it-yourself solution: Take an existing cable, cut off the din-6 connector, and solder on a din-5 connector. John Watters (JWATTERS@UA1VM.BITNET) provided the following information: IBM PC keyboard interface: Pins are numbered clockwise from key Pin 1 - keyboard clock in the order 1 4 2 5 3 2 - keyboard data 3 - keyboard reset 4 - ground 5 - +5V IBM PS/2 keyboard interface: Pins are numbered clockwise from key Pin 1 - data in the order 5 3 1 2 4 6 2 - reserved 3 - ground 4 - +5V 5 - clock 6 - reserved (3) I in fact selected the most obvious, most convenient, though perhaps most costly solution: I called up IBM directly (1-800-IBM-2468) and ordered the appropriate cable (listed on the box as item #6447051). Cost: $40 (approx). Thanks for your help. Don N. Kleinmuntz High-tech: DKLEIN@UIUCVMD.BITNET or DKLEIN@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU Medium-tech: (217) 333-0694 Low-tech: Program in Judgment/Decision Making Department of Accountancy University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 208 Commerce Building (West) 1206 South Sixth Street Champaign, IL 61820 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 20:48:29 GMT From: mathrich@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Rich Winkel) Subject: Rebooting the IBM PC In digest "S.M. Clarke" <smc7%eleceng.bradford.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK> writes: >I am writing in response to two earlier queries in your BB letter. >1) Rebooting the IBMPC > This is quite simple to do in machine code. Most IBMs will reboot when >the INT 0FFh machine instruction is issued. This will cause a cold reboot. >To do a warm reboot, issue the machine language instruction INT 019h (But >be warned .. if you have a ramdisk running in the first 640K of memory, it >may not be removed). The final method and the most unorthadox is a JMP >FFFF:0000. Which will jump directly into the system's ROM. This is incorrect. The most reliable and compatible way to do a reboot is to JMP FFFF:0000. INT FF is not defined on a true blue PC! Perhaps you're using a clone which has it pointing to the correct code, but this is not to be relied on in general. In fact, the CPU chip is wired to jump to FFFF:0000 at power on; that's about the ultimate in compatibility. INT 19 is NOT designed to be used to reboot the machine .. chances are good you'll hang it up instead. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 16:54:18 EST From: Peter Jones <MAINT%UQAM.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> Subject: Recycling diskettes On Sat Feb 17 20:05:41 1990 fstarr@lognet2.af.mil (TSgt Frank Starr) asked if there was any to get users to return diskettes... > I work as a mainframe operator where we copy a lot of info to 5 1/4" >DSDD 360K PC DOS compatible diskettes. One of our biggest problems is >getting users to return the diskettes for reuse. I would suggest charging a returnable cash deposit for the diskettes, like the one used in some jurisdictions for bottles. Any software remedy is doomed to failure, for a user can reformat the diskette, once he has copied the contents somewhere else. Peter Jones MAINT@UQAM (514)-987-3542 "Life's too short to try and fill up every minute of it" :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 12:51 EST From: <TLEWIS%UTKVX4.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Microsoft Windows 386 version 2.11 I'm running windows 386 version 2.11 along with hdc windows express. When I try to format a diskette in drive A:, it comes back and says can't format diskette. I'm running a PS/2 55SX with Dos 4.01. The format command from Dos works great. Anyone have any ideas? Terry lewis TLEWIS@UTKVX ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest ************************ -------