Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ("Info-IBMPC Digest") (02/25/90)
Info-IBMPC Digest Sun, 25 Feb 90 Volume 90 : Issue 33 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Chinhae Korea <GHICKS@WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil> Today's Topics: Assert problem solved! Re: Assert problem solved! 4DOS 2.1 available File Transfer problems (2 msgs) X-Windows Servers on PC's (2 msgs) X-Windows for DOS laser printer for an IBM XT MCA vendors Network Information, reliable sources needed Russian word processor Selective screen print program Word for Windows Today's Queries: More than 20+ Files Open in FORTRAN and/or C Possible? SigmaPlot Hard Disk Still Usable if Track 0 Bad? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <INFO-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Send requests of an administrative nature (addition to, deletion from the distribution list, et al) to: <INFO-IBMPC-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> The Lending Library is available from: WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (see file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME details on file directories and descriptions.) 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This system is a subscription system with an average hourly cost of 17 cents per hour. It is also accessable on Telenet via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via StarLink outdial. New files uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20 are usually available on DDC within 24 hours. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri Feb 23 18:38:40 1990 From: <microsoft!toddw@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Assert problem solved! QC 2.00 shipped with a special version of the assert.h include file to aid debugging in the interactive environment. If you look in assert.h you should find a section: #ifdef _QC ... #endif _QC is defined if you are compiling with qc 2.0 [which you are]. It places and _asm int 3 in your source code, so that when debugging from within the environment, when you hit the assert, the int 3 signals to the debugger to position you on that line of source code. There are a couple of work-arounds - use -Za with the -u switch (un-define pre-defined identifiers)* or -U_QC to just turn off definition of _QC. - use -Za and place an "#undef _QC" in your code before you include <assert.h> - remove the #ifdef _QC section from assert.h - don't use -Za thanks for your patience. Todd Warren Program Manager MSC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 90 00:18:14 EST From: zielke@phy.duke.edu (David Zielke) Subject: Assert problem solved! Thank you much for finding an explanation of the difficulty which I was having. This solves the problem completely. I will forward a copy of your reply to info-ibmpc. You will be happy to know that I have had very little difficulty with code which migrates from my 386 machine to Sun sytems and to Butterfly multiple processor machines. One other question, I may end up doing some mixed-language Programming where I need to incorporate Fortran routines into the program. I have looked at the mixed language programming guide which came with Microsoft Macro Assembler 5.1, will I have any difficulty with either the integrated environment or qcl in using those techniques. Also, is there a requirement about which version of the Microsoft Fortran compiler I must use? Thank you again for your help. David M. Zielke ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 90 1:40:05 EST From: udecc!udcps3!udcps2!sobol@afit-ab.arpa Subject: 4DOS 2.1 available In v90 #27 of the Digest, Justin Smith mentions 4DOS. Release 2.1 of this program (a COMMAND.COM replacement) is available on Gizmo's Place BBS, 513-229- 1913, 7E1, 3/12/2400 baud. I also have it. I've used it for a few days and I am impressed with it. Steve Sobol | Founders Hall #318, U. of Dayton, Dayton, OH 45469 Internet: sobol@udcps2.cps.udayton.edu or steven.sobol@afitamy.fidonet.org UUCP: ...!uunet!dayvb!udcps3!udcps2!sobol or !uunet!dayvb!afitamy!sobol OhioBellNet: (513) 229-1913 FAX (513) 228-3960 ------------------------------ Date: Sat Feb 24 02:42:59 1990 From: johnboyd@ocdis01.af.mil (John Boyd) Subject: File Transfer problems Yes, I did both of those things. As I said; the transfer from the source FTP machine to the Unix machine here goes fine. The problem occurs when I try to transfer the file from the Unix machine I am logged into down to my PC. THAT'S when the file size changes, and the 'corruption is introduced. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 90 01:56:52 MST From: Gregory Hicks <GHICKS@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: File Transfer problems Is it possible to get a 'logfile' of your session? Could I look at it? Who is the mfgr mfgr of your FTP process? Where are you trying to transfer FROM? What type of OS is it running? What is the OS on the system you transfer from to go to your PC? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 90 08:50:31 MST From: koontz@alpha.bldr.nist.gov (John E. Koontz) Subject: X-Windows Servers on PCs See (a) PC Week 7.7 (2/18/90) for an article on the use of DOS extenders to permit X-Windows servers on PCs. The following message originated on USENET. (Note that it was submitted as information by a maker of one of the products mentioned.) Neither of these constitutes an endorsement by myself or my employers. I just happened to have noticed these items just before I saw the enquiry on Info-IBMPC. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 90 09:15:27 From: fks@ftp.com (Frances Selkirk) Subject: X-Windows for DOS A number of companies have implemented X servers which use PC/TCP (FTP Software's TCP/IP package) to run on DOS. Here are the ones I have numbers for: Hewlett-Packard makes an X server called "AXDS\PC". For information, contact your Hewlett-Packard sales representitive or: Hewlett-Packard Panacom Automation Division 20 Lexington Road Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 3Z3 519-886-5320. Hummingbird makes an X server called "HCL-eXceed". For information contact: Hummingbird 2900 John Street, Unit 4 Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 5G3 416-470-1203 Graphic Software Systems makes an X server called "PC-Xview". For information contact: Graphic Software Systems 9590 SW Gemini Drive Beaverton, OR 97005 503-641-2200 Pitsburgh Powercomputing, has an X Server (name unknown) Contact: Sales (800) 326-4025 (412) 231-3000 FAX (412) 231-0305 VisionWare makes an X server called "XVision". For information, contact: VisionWare PO Box 3991 Minneapolis, MN 55405, 612-377-3627 I know there are at least a few others. -Frances Selkirk FTP Software, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: 24 February 1990 02:13 CST From: "Grant Hoover" <U26264@UICVM.uic.edu> Subject: laser printer for an IBM XT In PC Digest V90N15, Chris Chung <CHRIS@brown.brown.edu> asked about a laser printer and fonts for more than one computer and application. You're best bet for compatibility with several different software packages is to stick with Hewlett-Packard LaserJet Series II compatible printers, among which the HP itself is a very good choice. It's guaranteed to be compatible, so that battle has already been won, and it has a lot else going for it, too. For a comparison of laser printers and a discussion of what qualities serve different purposes, check out the November 15, 1989 issue of PC Magazine. This is the magazine's annual printer roundup issue. This issue reviews the LaserJet Series IIP and IID, but not the II, as this model was not either new or substantially modified in the year prior to the article. The LaserJet Series II can be found in the November 10, 1987 printer roundup. The printer issue for the intervening year was in the October 31, 1988 issue, in case you want to look at those, too. As for compatibility with individual software products, if they support any laser printer, it should be this one (and those compatible with it). Check the software's documentation or call the manufacturer to determine what printers are supported. The LaserJet does not necessarily need a different cartridge for each font. Most cartridges from HP itself contain several related fonts, and cartridges from other manufacturers hold many. "25-in-One" and "Headlines in a Cartridge" from Pacific Data Products (619-552-0880), and "Super Cartridge 1" and "Super Cartridge 2" from IQ Engineering (408-733-1161) are examples of these. A brief but good comparison of "25-in-One" and "Super Cartridge 1" appears on page 48 of the November 15, 1988 issue of PC Magazine. A more substantial review of "Super Cartridge 1" can be found on page 56 of the October, 1989 issue of Personal Publishing magazine. The most comprehensive comparison of font cartridges I've seen appears on page 217 of the June 13, 1989 issue of PC Magazine. This issue has a suite of articles on fonts of all sorts, and is worth finding if you need to make some purchasing decisions. Another option you have is soft fonts. These are files on your hard drive that are sent to the printer by the software doing the printing (if it supports soft fonts). These offer greater flexibility at the expense of printing speed and disk space. You can put more soft fonts on a hard drive than you can find in a cartridge, but they're going to hog megabytes, and they need to be sent to the printer when they are used. This might take a couple of seconds or a couple of minutes depending on the size of the font and your hardware. SoftCraft (800-351-0500) offers a large selection of pre-made bitmapped soft fonts. Another flexibility advantage offered by soft fonts can be gained when you use a soft font generator. The idea is this: Instead of buying a bunch of soft fonts on a disk in predetermined sizes, you can use a generator to create fonts in the sizes you want. You need a generator program, and outline files for each typeface you want to generate. Some programs let you specify other characteristics of the fonts, too, such as slant, fill patter, etc. Bitstream (800-522-3668) offers the best quality soft fonts available for the LaserJet and compatibles, and Digi-Fonts (800-242-5665) offers what is probably the best price per font ratio with good quality, too. The June 13, 1989 issue of PC Magazine has articles on pre-made soft fonts, font generators, other utilities you might find useful now or later, and a general introduction to fonts on page 206. An older article on soft fonts in general appears on page 393 of the November 10, 1987 issue of PC Magazine. Another good discussion of soft and hard fonts for the LaserJet, and a comparison with Postscript, is on page 26 of Personal Publishing's June, 1989 issue. The simplest and least expensive approach to accessing one printer from two computers without switching cables by hand is a switch box. You simply turn a knob to connect the printer to the computer that is about to print. E-Tronics makes these, and they are available for $15 - $35 at Elek-Tek (708-677-7660) near Chicago and a lot of other places. This can get tedious fast, so you might want to look into boxes that switch automatically to the computer doing the printing and buffer the print jobs of other computers that start up while the first is still going. IMC/Data Manager makes some of these. They cost between $350 and $600, depending on how many computers and printers you want to hook up and what kind of cabling you want to use. These are also available at Elek-Tek. I've never used any of these, so I can't make any recommendations. ____ _____ ___ __ __ ______ / | _ \ / \ | \| | |__ __| . . | ___ | < / ^ \ | | | | . \____/ |__|\__| /_/---\_\ |__|\__| |__| \___/ Grant Hoover * University of Illinois at Chicago * Bitnet u26264@uicvm Internet u26264@uicvm.cc.uic.edu * CompuServe 76370,314 * GEnie G.HOOVER6 ------------------------------ Date: 24 February 1990 02:30 CST From: "Grant Hoover" <U26264@UICVM.uic.edu> Subject: MCA vendors In PC Digest V90N15, David J. Camp <david@wubios.wustl.edu> asked for information on manufacturers of MCA equipment. Back in March of 1988, Personal Computing magazine published a guide to MCA add-in boards and their manufacturers. The article is called "What's New In Third-Party Micro Channel Add-In Boards" and appears on page 132 of that issue. While it might seem that this is a little out of date, the article was actually jumping the gun on a lot of the manufacturers. That is, many of them had announced or were planning MCA products, but hadn't delivered yet. So by now, if all went well for those companies, the article should be more accurate than it was when it was published. ____ _____ ___ __ __ ______ / | _ \ / \ | \| | |__ __| . . | ___ | < / ^ \ | | | | . \____/ |__|\__| /_/---\_\ |__|\__| |__| \___/ Grant Hoover * University of Illinois at Chicago * Bitnet u26264@uicvm Internet u26264@uicvm.cc.uic.edu * CompuServe 76370,314 * GEnie G.HOOVER6 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 90 22:30:52 EST From: Dave_Padgitt@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Network Information, reliable sources needed >From: taclgqp@lognet2.af.mil (Cpt Glen Marumoto) > >Can anyone out there point me in the right direction for finding info >about the different "nets" out there. I have been reading this >publication for a year now and have seen INTERNET, FIDONET, BITNET, and >whateverNET. What are these? How do you get stuff to them? Help!!! > >[Take a look in the Sept/Oct 88 Issue of "Communications of the ACM". >They have a VERY good discussion of "Notable Networks". gph] Are you sure that this is the correct information? I searched high and low and was unable to find any such article in "Communications of the ACM" (CACM). What is the exact title of the article, page numbers, etc.? Thanks. [My error. I was working from memory and I apologize. The issue in question was the October '86 issue of CACM, Vol 29, #10, pp 932-971. The exact title was "Notable Computer Networks", written by John S. Quarterman and Josiah C. Hoskins. gph] ------------------------------ Date: 24 February 1990 02:39 CST From: "Grant Hoover" <U26264@UICVM.uic.edu> Subject: Russian word processor In PC Digest V90N19 Claude Daoust <CDAOUST%UOTTAWA.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> asked about Russian word processing. WordPerfect's language support has always been pretty good, and it just got a lot better with the latest version of the program, 5.1. Any characters, be they foreign language, math, etc., that can not be printed by the printer and font combination being used will be created graphically by WordPerfect, as long as the printer supports graphics. Give WordPerfect a call at 800-851-4572. They'll know more about their product's support for the Russian language in particular. ____ _____ ___ __ __ ______ / | _ \ / \ | \| | |__ __| . . | ___ | < / ^ \ | | | | . \____/ |__|\__| /_/---\_\ |__|\__| |__| \___/ Grant Hoover * University of Illinois at Chicago * Bitnet u26264@uicvm Internet u26264@uicvm.cc.uic.edu * CompuServe 76370,314 * GEnie G.HOOVER6 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 90 16:11 EST From: <EDHARRIS%CTSTATEU.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Selective screen print program There is a terrific program called SNIPPER available through PC Magazine's PC Magnet. It was printed in the mag back in Oct '87 with a correction in Jan '88. It allows you to capture any part of the screen and print it, copy it at the cursor, save it to a file, or save it (I don't know where) to paste into another program. It's a TSR on my pc that works fine for me when I'm emulating a terminal and using our Vax. Good luck with it. --Ed. Edward C. Harris, Academic Affairs Southern Connecticut State University, New Haven, CT 06515 USA (203) 397-4320, (203) 397-4207 (Fax) ------------------------------ Date: FRI, 23 FEB 90 14.04.43 EDT From: "Mark S. Domalewski" <URPC%MARISTC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Word for Windows Having read over Steven Timm's question concerning Microsoft Word for Windows, I can provide the following answers to some of his questions. 1 - If you have 1 MB or less of memory, as I do (using a 50Z with 1 MB), if you have any other windows applications that require major amounts loaded up, I have found that you get "Unable to update display" errors when performing major alterations to the text displayed on the screen. So, I have found it is best to only have Word running when I am windows and close it if I need to run anything else. 2 - Word for Windows comes with Run-Time windows, which is a subset of the standard Windows 2.11 version. This subset provides the minimum windows environment that Word needs to run. It is not a full blown version, so when you exit Word, you will exit the Run-Time windows also for it won't do much more than give you directories. I hope these answers have been of some assistance to you. I am sending copies to both you and the list in case anyone else has similar questions as you. Later, Mark D. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 90 11:22 CST From: <T8505011%TWNTUCC1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: More than 20+ Files Open in FORTRAN and/or C Possible? Can anyone tell me how to open more than 15 files simultaneously in files compiled by Microsoft FORTRAN 4_1 and/or Microsoft C 5_1. If the execution files are compiled and linked by the above two compiler, there can open 20 files on each program. But each program open 5 files in the beginning and leaves 15 files to let users open them. I have tried the following 4 methods and failed. 1. Use FILES102.ARC from Simtel's PD1:<MSDOS> directory. It seems FILES.COM just have the same effect as increases the FILES=XXX in CONFIG.SYS and reboots. 2. Use HANDLE20.ARC from Simtel's PD1:<MSDOS> directory. Its samples execution file works. But it cannot work correctly with the files produced by MS Fortran 4.1 or C 5.1. 3. Use MFILE.ASM from Simtel's PD1:<MSDOS.C> directory. The information in this file says it works with MS C 3.0. But it malfunctions with MS C 5.1. My sample program works correctly when open, but leave only first 15 files on my disk and the rest files disappear. 4. From the disks of Microsoft, there is a sub-directory called 'startup'. And it contains a file 'crt0dat.asm'. In this file, the constant '_NFILE_' seems to define the number of files that can be simultaneously opened, because I cannot find any information about files in MS's manuals. But after I change its value to larger and assemble it and then relink my object file, it works the same except the size of execution file are longer. Could anyone on this forum help me to solve this problem? It seems this restriction not cause by OS but by the compiler. The operation system I tried are OS/2 1.0, MS DOS 3.3 and 4.0, but OS/2 is favorable. BTW, does anyone know that MS Fortran 4.1 supports DLL in OS/2? Yin-Hsin Chen T8505011@TWNTUCC1.BITNET Department of Naval Architecture National Taiwan University [The number of files open at any one time is NOT a Fortran or C limitation, but one imposed by DOS. gph] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 90 15:57:26 CST From: Hsin Chi <DN6A1004%TWNMOE10.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: SigmaPlot Does anyone know the company address and price of the software SigmaPlot? Please send me your comments. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 90 11:44:35 SST From: CCEYEOYT%NUSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Hard Disk Still Usable if Track 0 Bad? Does anyone know if a harddisk can still be used if its track 0 (where the partition table & boot sector are stored) is bad ? If it is possible, kindly enlighten me as how this can be done. Thanks. ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest ************************ -------