Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ("Info-IBMPC Digest") (08/10/90)
Info-IBMPC Digest Fri, 10 Aug 90 Volume 90 : Issue 131 Today's Editor: Gregory Hicks - Rota Spain <GHICKS@WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil> Today's Topics: Calling Programs from ms c 5.1 Request for info on Coherent Converting tar.Z files to Dos format Extracting tar.Z files for Dos IBM Model 80--joys of support PC-PLUS, Names and Passwords Problems with SMARTDRV.SYS vs Windows 3.0 Problems PC POP Version 2.3 Released Upgrading MSDOS from 3.0 to 3.3 Simple Terminal Programs with Source Code Today's Queries: CGM to CLP Modula journal, etc Olivetti printer info needed Send Replies or notes for publication to: <INFO-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Send requests of an administrative nature (addition to, deletion from the distribution list, et al) to: <INFO-IBMPC-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> The Simtel20 Archives discussed are available from: WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (see file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME details on file directories and descriptions.) 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If you are unable to access SIMTEL20 via Internet FTP or through one of the BITNET/EARN file servers, most MSDOS SIMTEL20 files, including the PC-Blue collection, are available for downloading on the Detroit Download Central network at 313-885-3956. DDC is a networked system with multiple lines that support 300, 1200, 2400, and 9600 bps (HST). This system is a subscription system with an average hourly cost of 17 cents per hour. It is also accessible on Telenet via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via StarLink outdial. New files uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20 are usually available on DDC within 24 hours. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Aug 90 11:37:57 EST From: jim wiegand <V5068U%TEMPLEVM@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> Subject: calling programs from ms c 5.1 Randy: There is an unfortunate clash between c and ms. dos: the '' is the escape character in c AND the path seperator in dos! So to the compiler "c:foofoo" looks like "c:x0foox0foo". What you have to do is use the literal slash '': "c:foofoo" is a path that will pass to dos ok. This is so because the path seperator in unix is '/'. The rest of the synatx I don't know about since I use Turbo-C. You might want to check also to see if P_WAIT is implemented (it isn't in TC). jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 90 07:41:26 PLT From: Geoffrey Webb <WEBBG%WSUVM1.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Request for info on Coherent I have been looking at Coherent from Mark Williams as an operating system for my machine. Any comments from the net? Geoff Webb webbg@wsuvm1.bitnet [There was quite a discussion on USENET awhile ago. I'll forward the gist of the discussions to you... gph] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 90 12:23:09 CDT From: price@chakra.unl.edu (Chad Price) Subject: Converting tar.Z files to Dos format In comp.sys.ibm.pc.digest you write: >I have a couple of compress.exe versions that I can make available. >One is a 12-bit version and the other uses all 16 bits. The 12 bit >version is not very useful with most downloaded software, because they >are usually compressed with 16 bits. It does run in a lot less memory >than the 16 bit version, which requires nearly all TSR's to be removed. [... text deleted] YES - please send. I will be graduating & want to preserve some of the stuff I have in my UNIX accounts to my PC.. Thanks Chad Price price@fergvax.unl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 90 10:19:50 EDT From: gary@ctc.contel.com (Gary Bisaga x4219) Subject: extracting tar.Z files for Dos David J. Camp (david@wubios.wustl.edu) writes: > There is a public domain version of tar that runs on MsDos. I do not > know why people bother using things like TARREAD and DETAR when they > can have the full tar program. I can also make this available. Love to! Care to tell us where to get it? Gary Bisaga (gary@ctc.contel.com) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 90 09:43:24 EDT From: Ken_Latta@ub.cc.umich.edu Subject: IBM Model 80--joys of support Is it possible to use an AT keyboard with an IBM PS/2 Model 80? I got an adapter for the connections. When I plugged in a Zenith keyboard it appeared to work fine until I rebooted. The model 80 not only complained about the keyboard it decided the mouse wasn't present either. Now Windows 3.0 was perfectly happy to have me define the keyboard as XT/AT and let me use the mouse. But the IBM power on self-test (POST) refuses to deal with the Zenith keyboard. I didn't see anything that would let me "configure" the model 80 as using an XT/AT keyboard. Any guesses? Also, we've been using the software for Telnet, etc that comes with the Ungermann-Bass Ethernet card. Does anyone have any other software configuration (packet drivers, other commercial software, etc) that permits a) decent 3270 emulation when telnetting into a VM hosts (i.e., 3179 graphics with color) or b) behaves under Windows? Thanks. Ken Latta, Merit Computer Network, NSFNET Project, klatta@merit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 90 03:51 +0200 From: Anders_Altberg_Uppsala_H_SK@norrkom.umu.se Subject: PC-PLUS, Names and Passwords In IBMPC-INFO # 120 Paul Andrews wanted a way of using a PCPLUS login program but keep names and passwords secret. Keep the user name and password in a PCPLUS .KEY file. These are opened with ALT-M in PCPLUS. Each user could possibly be allowed to create his own. Standardize on keys for NAME as ALT-1 and PASSWORD as ALT-2. Then save the .KEY file on a user diskette. Insert a line at the beginning in your PCPLUS program to load the .KEY file, then - at the appropriate point - automatically call up the name and password with the PCPLUS command MACRO 1 and MACRO 2. This will make it possible to have a generic login program written in PCPLUS's ASPIC language and at the same time make each user responsible for protecting his own diskett containing his user name and keyword. He can even learn to change them if necessary and update his KEY file. The user will only be able to log in after inserting a correctly made diskette in the A-drive. After exiting from PCPLUS their is no trace of the name and password used on the PC. Pushing this concept further, the remaining strings that can be put in a KEY file could be utilised to have each user's personal choice of environment set up automatically on login. Anders Altberg Uppsala, Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Mon Aug 06 09:50:21 1990 From: microsoft!larryo@beaver.cs.washington.edu Subject: Problems with SMARTDRV.SYS vs Windows 3.0 Problems | >From: "Brian E. Gallew" <bg11+@andrew.cmu.edu> | Subject: Windows v3.0 Warning | | I realize that there are a still a large number of bugs in Windows 3.0, | but I don't think that the incompatibilities are quite as comprehensive | as given in you extract. Windows has been running on a Hauppage 386 | with a 40MG hard drive partitioned with Disk Manager with no problems | at all. | | Of course, it may be because No partitions are larger than 32MB, but I | didn't see anything referencing partition size in your extract. The problems that have been reported of windows 3.0 corrupting hard disks are actually problems with SMARTDRV.SYS. The problem occurs when you use SMARTDRV on a machine who'se sector size is more than 512 bytes. There are several third party hardware companies that sell >32Mb support by increasing the sector size of the hard disk to 1K or 2K, unfortunately SMARTDRV wasn't correctly handling those cases. There are basically 3 workarounds for the problem (in order of simplicity): 1) Crank your DOS BUFFERS= up and take SMARTDRV.SYS out of your CONFIG.SYS 2) Upgrade your DOS version. Both DOS 3.31 (From Compaq) and PC-DOS 4.0 (From IBM/etc) support larger than 32Mb hard disks with 512 byte sectors on the disks. 3) Low level format and repartition your hard disk to use <32Mb partitions. Any of the above options will remedy the corruption problems that have been reported. Larry Osterman Please note: I am not a representative of Microsoft technical support, I just work here. None of my comments in any way represent the opinions of Microsoft. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Aug 90 22:05:11 GMT From: bill@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Bill Schweickert) Subject: PC POP Version 2.3 Released I have just released PC POP version 2.3. Version 2.3 containing: 1) Bug Fix: A section of code in the tcp.lib file was trashing the BIOS. The net effect was that PC POP would hang the program on exit or screw up the video attributes. All fixed now. 2) New Feature: PC POP will now operate on 8086 microprocessors. Previous versions only ran on 286 on up. Version 2.3 supports all PC's now. 3) NCSA: NCSA 2.3b9 is now included. 4) Sources: sources are available of course. ftp anonymous trident.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.18.13) cd pub/POPMAIL Bill Schweickert bill@trident.arc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 1990 01:23 MDT From: "Frank J. Wancho" <WANCHO@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Subject: Upgrading MSDOS from 3.0 to 3.3 You don't *have to* do a low-level format. But, if you haven't done one lately, you ought to consider doing so anyway. In any case, you will need to back up your files because you will need to do a FORMAT C:/S. The reason is that the two hidden system files, IBMBIOS.COM and IBMDOS.COM must be the first two files on the disk, and they must be contiguous. (Supposedly Zenith's MSDOS 3.3+ allows for installing over a previous version and an implicit discontinuity, but that *will* lead to problems if you use an old version of their COMPACT defragmenting program with the /H option.) Because each new release of those MSDOS system files is larger than the previous release, the files will not end up contiguous on the disk when you use SYS C: unless you just happen to have enough room free right after the end of those files. In general, because you have to do the backup anyway, you might as well do the low level format and play it safe. --Frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 90 15:21:54 CDT From: smutniak@fergvax.unl.edu (Frank Smutniak) Subject: Simple Terminal Programs with Source Code In V90 #124 Phil Howard was seeking a SIMPLE terminal program with source code. I was searching for one as part of a project last semester and found an excellent example in: DOS programmers Reference published by QUE Inc. 1989 (?) ( I loaned it out so don't quote me) The program is written in Turbo C and took less than 200 lines. This program was simple and elegant but, as the author says, (again, don't quote me) it will have problems going too fast (2400 baud) since it alternately checks the keyboard and the serial port. Characters coming in to the port may be lost when attention is on the keyboard. I have had no problems using it at 1200 baud on a Jameco 80286 (Turbo C 2.0 Pro compiler) but I lose characters at 2400. The program, as shown, uses inportb() and outportb() functions, but a later chapter talks about using interrupts to make it faster. Those enhancements I have not pursued. Good luck, INTERNET: smutniak@fergvax.unl.edu BITNET: frank@unlasvax P.S. Thanks to those who offered parallel port info. Looks like I will have to make my own card to be machine independent. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 90 14:55:53 EDT From: Leonard Abbey <LABBEY%GTRI01.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> Subject: CGM to CLP I am looking for a program to translate CGM graphics metafiles to the CLP format used in Borland's Quattro Pro. Does anyone have any experience with this? Leonard Abbey Georgia Tech Research Institute labbey@gtri01.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 90 11:09:44 PDT From: Theresa_Guay@cc.sfu.ca Subject: Modula journal, etc Does any one know the address of the Journal of Modula and ADA, or any other Modula 2 journal. Is there also any programming digests similar to INFO-IBMPC? Theresa Guay Distributed Computing Support Group Simon Fraser University theresa_guay@cc.sfu.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 1990 15:39:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Eugene Kietzke <fk03+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Olivetti printer info needed I have recently come across an Olivetti PR2300 printer. It works fine in straight line printer mode, but I think that this printer should be capable of more. Does anyone out on the net have access to a manual for this beast that I can capture a few bits of info from?? |Frank Kietzke |Carnegie-Mellon University |Data Communications ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest V90 #131 ********************************* -------