Info-IBMPC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ("Info-IBMPC Digest") (06/27/91)
Info-IBMPC Digest Thu, 27 Jun 91 Volume 91 : Issue 166
Today's Editor:
Gregory Hicks - Rota Spain <GHICKS@WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil>
Today's Topics:
Anonymous FTP to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil
Accessing the WSMR-SIMTEL20 Archives
DOS 5.0 Upgrade (2 msgs)
EpiInfo version 5.01 EpiInstl.Hlp
Re: the SCO List (V91 #143)
Re: Internal Commands in DOS necessary? (2 msgs)
Is MS-DOS 5.0 the one for me?
MS-DOS 5.0 (2 msgs)
VT/IBM Terminal Emulation Document
Today's Queries:
Problems with BRIEF and Tandon notebook
Mathematics Training (Algebra, Geometry)
Memory Test
Peachtree Accounting software
Resume Style Sheet for LaTex
String and sealing wax disk sharing
Timing problems with IDE Harddisk Toshiba MK 234FC
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 91 14:09 IST
From: "A. SOLOMON EAGLSTEIN" <WELFARE%ILNCRD@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL>
Subject: Anonymous FTP
I wasn't sure about the propriety of sending this message via the
digest. I wonder if you mite inform people who have a hard time
getting into sintel-20 that other sites (like wuarchive....) are
available and often easier to access.
Sol Eaglstein
Director of Research
Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs
Jerusalem, Israel
FAX: (Israel) 2-731640
BITNET:WELFARE @ ILNCRD
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Date: Thu, 27 June 1991 +0200
From: Gregory Hicks <ghicks@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Accessing the WSMR-SIMTEL20 Archives
The Simtel20 Archives discussed are available from:
WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (see file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME details
on file directories and descriptions.) Problems with files obtained
from the Archives should be addressed to:
<ACTION@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>
Archives of past issues of the Info-IBMPC Digest are available by FTP
only from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL in directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC>.
WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL can be accessed using LISTSERV commands from
BITNET via LISTSERV@NDSUVM1, LISTSERV@RPIECS and in Europe from EARN
TRICKLE servers. Send commands to TRICKLE@<host-name> (example:
TRICKLE@TREARN). The following TRICKLE servers are presently
available: AWIWUW11 (Austria), BANUFS11 (Belgium), DKTC11 (Denmark),
DB0FUB11 and DS0RUS1I (Germany), EB0UB011 (Spain), FRMOP11 (France),
HEARN (Netherlands), IMIPOLI (Italy), TAUNIVM (Israel), and TREARN
(Turkey).
Other sites that mirror the SIMTEL20 archives are available. See V91
#150 for MUCH more information.
Users on BITNET and NetNorth ONLY may send a HELP message to
BITFTP@PUCC to get more information on this service.
SIMTEL20 is not accessible on the first Wednesday of each month from
6-10pm Eastern Standard Time.
If you are unable to access SIMTEL20 via Internet FTP or through one of
the BITNET/EARN file servers, most SIMTEL20 MSDOS files, including the
PC-Blue collection, are available for downloading on the Detroit
Download Central network at 313-885-3956. DDC has multiple lines which
support 300/1200/2400/9600/14400 bps (HST/V.32/V.42/V.42bis/MNP5).
This is a subscription system with an average hourly cost of 17 cents.
It is also accessable on Telenet via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via
StarLink outdial. New files uploaded to SIMTEL20 are usually available
on DDC within 24 hours.
<rjc@math.princeton.edu> operates a mail server that sends, by
return mail, a series of files that answer quite a few of the most
frequently asked questions on the net. This server will also look up
programs in the SIMTEL20 index, the grape index, and the chyde index.
If you send email to <rjc@math.princeton.edu> with no subject and
containing the single line "help", you will receive instructions;
sending the message "directory" gives you an index of all the files
available on the server.
A set of files you might be interested in is obtaining are faq.csip
old.questions and faq.more. These files contain answers to more
frequently asked questions. To obtain these files, just send the
two-line message:
path your-return-path-goes-here
send desired-file
(ie: "send faq.csip", "send old.questions", or "send faq.more") to
rjc@math.princeton.edu. Of course, replace "your-return-address" with
your actual return address. UK users please remember to reverse the
JANET path. DO NOT INCLUDE A SUBJECT LINE FOR THESE MESSAGES.
> How do you want the questions mailed to you for posting? Shall I
> mail separate message for each question or shall I include all sorts
> of questions in one message?
If you send them all in one message, I break them up, put in what I
think is an appropriate subject (it might not be what YOU want) and
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Please be as descriptive as possible when selecting a subject for
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In your message to the Digest, please include as much detail as you
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al...
If you send them in individual messages, they go right in,
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There is a delay of 8-10 Digests before your query / answer comes
out though. This delay is caused by the ones already in the pipeline
waiting delivery.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:32:32 EDT
From: "David L. Phillips" <PZ2%PSUVM.PSU.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: DOS 5.0 @ $39
Tom Rusk Vickery <TVICKERY@SUNRISE.bitnet> says:
>I am not sure what counts as an upgrade. For example, DOS 4.01 came
>with my Hyundai 386SE. Would that count as though I had purchased it
>outright? Has anyone had experience with this?
In fact, no one will ask you what you are upgrading. In fact, to use
the upgrade, you must boot from your OLD program and then run the DOS
5.0 INSTALL. You cannot boot from the upgrade disks. That is how they
make sure you are REALLY upgrading rather than trying to cheat them.
Your only problem might come if Hyundai changed the initial MS-DOS code
in some way rather than pay Microsoft a license fee. Then maybe it
wouldn't work. Odds are good that it will (IMHO). (But don't blame
me!!)
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 11:04:24 CDT
From: Tim Williams <ST6074%SIUCVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: DOS 5.0 upgrade
Let me get this straight. The DOS 5.0 upgrade DOES come with all of
the manuals and binders, etc., just like previous versions did. The
only thing that's different is that you must boot from your old DOS
first, right?
Tim
[Right. Except the manual is 'perfect' bound and not loose leaf. gph]
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 91 01:45:35 MEZ
From: "Gisbert W.Selke" <S00100%DBNRHRZ1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: EpiInfo version 5.01 EpiInstl.Hlp
Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
EpiInfo 5.01 comes in 9 groups, each repacked here for ease of
downloading in a ZIP file of its own. To install EpiInfo, unzip each
file onto a floppy; you can combine several groups onto one floppy but
you should keep the contents of each group together. Group 1 contains
an Install executable which guides you through the installation. The
manual is still at level 5.0; it comes in a ZIP of its own. Upgrade
notices are to be found in ReadMe of group 1.
System requirements are: MS-DOS 2.0 or later, 512KByte or more; for
graphics, some form of graphics adapter (as supported by the Borland
BGI drivers).
\Gisbert <s00100@dbnrhrz1.bitnet> WIdO, Bonn, Germany
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 11:43:28 EDT
From: Marshall Feldman <RLN101%URIACC.BITNET@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Re: the SCO List (V91 #143)
try: sco-list@uunet.uu.net
Marsh Feldman
Community Planning
204 Rodman Hall
University of Rhode Island
Kingston, RI 02881-0815
(rln101 @ uriacc.uri.edu)
401/792-2248
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Date: Tue, 21 May 91 02:16:43 GMT
From: NIZARD Alain-F <NIZARD%FRBDX11.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Internal Commands in DOS necessary?
The normal search scheme for a command is:
Search for an internal command. If not there, search successively the
current directory for a .COM then for an .EXE, then for a .BAT
If this is not found, repeat the same process with all of the
directories in the PATH, in the same order as they appear.
So if you have a DIR.COM and a DIR.EXE in the current folder an typein
DIR NONE will be executed unless you alter the COMMAND.COM (eg with
DEBUG) to *DONT* recognize the DIR command.
If you do that, dont forget to have a correct copy of the COMMAND.COM a
part. SMILE! if you keyin C:DIR in place of DIR, a file will be
searched whith the preceding rules in the C: disk. Now supposing the
DIR files are in the same accessible folder of the C: disk you'll run
the DIR.COM (not the DIR.EXE) file
Have Fun. -Alain.
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 22:10:41 EDT
From: Josh Vander Berg <k080093%HOBBES.KZOO.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Internal Commands in DOS necessary?
> The files you see in the DOS subdirectory are the external commands,
> like FORMAT, etc. You could delete them, but then you couldn't run
> those without using your DOS distribution diskette (or its backup,
> whatever).
> A related question about DOS, if you had a DIR.COM, would a DIR
> command run that module, or would COMMAND.COM pick it off and run
> its interal directory display instead?
Yes, command.com would run its own dir command. But there is a way
around this. Dos internal commands cannot be deleted, but they can be
renamed by editing your command.com file. Thus if you wanted to run a
dir.com program you had written you could rename dir to say "asd", then
there would be no conflict. The names of the commands are stored near
the very end of the command.com file.
If you change the names, the new name must be of the exact same length
as the old name or else you will trash the command.com file. To edit
the file try something like Norton's Disk Editor. A common usage of
this type of trickery is to rename the "del" command and replace it
with a batch file that copies the files to a trashcan directory instead
of deleting them.
Josh Vander Berg (k080093@kzoo.edu)
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 08:04:28 CST
From: Rob <C08926RC%WUVMD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Is MS-DOS 5.0 the one for me?
>From all the discussions of DOS 5.0 to the best of my understanding one can
>only benefit from using 5.0 if your computer has more than 640 K. The main
>advantage is that 5.0 can load itself and other device drivers into HIMEM.
I wouldn't say that's the only benefit. DOS 5.0 lets you unformat and
undelete files - you no longer have to use a third party program to do
this. It now comes with Qbasic instead of GW-BASIC or BASICA. It now
supports the 2.88M floppy drives. It has a halfway decent
mouse-supported shell. It has a full screen editor - no more EDLIN!
Then there's DOSKEY, a command history utility...
That's just off the top of my head - don't have the manual in front of
me. In my opinion, the $40 was well spent.
Rob
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 16:48:00 EST
From: Tom Rusk Vickery <TVICKERY%SUNRISE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: MS-DOS 5.0
I have a lovely new Hyundai 386SE with 4MB of RAM and MS-DOS 4.01.
Until I got this machine I never understood the 640K limitation that I
had read about. I installed Windows 3.0 only to discover that the
computer was convinced it had only 640K RAM. After doing all the
tricks that come with Windows but with poor results, I bought and
installed QEMM 386, which helped somewhat, but not nearly as much as
the several hours of time spent by a systems engineer trying to get my
extended ram, expanded ram, regular ram, and ram ram properly related
to each other. I still cannot go to the DOS shell from WordPerfect 5.1
and run Kermit--not enough memory, the computer tells me.
Now my question is this: Will DOS 5.0 merely replace the memory
management benefits of Windows and QEMM 386 or will there be added
benefits. DOS 5.0's major benefit to me would be in better memory
management, but if it is just going to replicate what Windows and QEMM
386 do, then why bother.
Obviously I don't understand what I am talking about, so if you
respond, consider your audience. And thanks in advance.
Tom Rusk Vickery, 265 Huntington Hall *
Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY 13244-2340 *
315-443-3450 TVICKERY@SUNRISE.ACS.SYR.EDU *
TVICKERY@SUNRISE.BITNET FAX 315-443-5732 *
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:13:00 CDT
From: "Ronald Hahm" <HAHM5247@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU>
Subject: MSDOS 5.0
Does anyone know if one can get a full version of DOS 5.0. I heard
that you can only get the Upgrade version from retailers and the full
version is only being offered to OEM for their machines. I am
wondering if anyone has been able to locate a full version and how much
did it cost?
Ronald Hahm
[Kind Sir:
Please make your 'personal' signature for the "From:" line fit on
one line. Assistance appreciated.]
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Date: Mon, 20 May 91 21:08:36 EDT
From: "David B. O'Donnell" <EL406006%BROWNVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: VT/IBM Terminal Emulation Document
My terminal emulation document, covering DEC VT52/100/340 and the IBM
7171 ASCII Controller, is available through anonymous FTP at
brownvm.brown.edu. To access this document, fire up your FTP process,
and connect to brownvm.brown.edu (128.148.128.40). The user is
anonymous, the password should be the address of the account from which
you are FTPing. Once in, type CD EL406006.192, and GET VTXXX.KEYSEQ
That's all there is to it! I hope this document can be of some use to
all you telecommunicators.
| David B. O'Donnell
\|/
(|) EL406006@BrownVM.Brown.EDU
| atropos@Netlab.CIS.Brown.EDU
| Atropos@Drycas.Club.CC.CMU.EDU
-' Atropos@MTS.RPI.EDU
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:57:41 MEZ
From: Erich Neuwirth <A4422DAB%AWIUNI11.BITNET@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: BRIEF and Tandon notebook
I tried to install BRIEF 3.0 on the new Tandon notebook NB/386SX It
simply does not work. After BRIEF is launched ther is no more reaction
to the keyboard. Even Ctrr-Alt-Del does not work.
Can anybody offer some hints? And could they give me an email address
for Solution Systems (the distributors) or Software Partners (the
programmers) so I can complain to them?
ERICH NEUWIRTH
BITNET (EARN): A4422DAB@AWIUNI11
INTERNET: a4422dab@Helios.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT
Institute for Statistics and Computer Science
UNIVERSITY OF VIENNA, UNIVERSITAETSSTR. 5/9, A-1010 VIENNA, AUSTRIA
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:49:34 EDT
From: Jean-Serge Gagnon <JSG8A%ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Mathematics (Training (Algebra, Geometry)
Any software for math perfection on SIMTEL20?
What I would like, ideally, is something for more advanced math, like
algebra, geometry, the things you learn in high school.
Thanks.
Jean-Serge Gagnon Internet: <JSG8A@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Bitnet: <JSG8A@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Specialiste en Equipement Informatique
Hardware Maintenance Specialist
Universite d'Ottawa / University of Ottawa
(613) 564-5903 ou/or 7183
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 91 20:46:11 EDT
From: David Rossi <PH405013%BROWNVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Memory Test
I have a 'no name' IBM 386 dx clone with 2 mb of DRAM on the
motherboard and another 2 mb on an memory expansion board which
connects to the motherboard via a special 32 bit socket. The
motherboard memory works fine, but I get memory parity errors with the
expansion board. The system is still under warrenty and so I have
returned the expansion board with the installled 2 mb dram for repair.
My questions are:
(1) What kind of memory check is being performed on boot-up? It never
failed to pass this test. My bios is a 1989 AMI.
(2) Does anyone have a good memory test utility so I can test my
expansion board when I get it back?
Thanks in advance
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:34:41 EDT
From: Timothy Buck <TIMBUCK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Peachtree Accounting software
I need to know something about Peachtree Accounting software. Can
anyone send me some information on it? Is there possible a demo of it
publicly available?
Timothy Buck
timbuck@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:51:22 PDT
From: USERMANK@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Resume Style Sheet for LaTex
Do anybody know is there a Style for writing resume in LaTex some where
out there?
Man Kit Chang
University of British Columbia
e-mail: usermank@mtsg.ubc.ca
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 10:23:03 BST
From: Derek Jones <derek@aivru.sheffield.ac.uk>
Subject: String and sealing wax disk sharing
This is crude and nasty I know, but does anyone know of a driver that
will allow a serially connected remote machine's hard drive to be
accessed as a local disk partition on the local machine which has, say,
only two floppies? The serial connection would be at 9600 via the
RS232 ports on both machines. No fancier task required, - I'm
specifically not looking for networking capabilites.
(BTW, I imagine the driver would have to run on both local and remote
machines).
Thanks in advance
Derek Jones.
System Manager.
A.I. Vision Research Unit,
Sheffield University,
Western Bank,
Sheffield.
S10 2TN
U.K.
Tel: (0742) 768555 X 6551
email: derek@aivru.sheffield.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 09:42:29 +0200
From: olaf%hirn.uni-duesseldorf.de@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Olaf Holthausen)
Subject: Timing problems with IDE Harddisk Toshiba MK 234FC
We have a harddisk-drive Toshiba MK 234FC, but it has problems in
various configurations: Sometimes it refueses to read, while in the
meantime the harddisk-indicator light remains on for about 10 seconds,
after that the light goes off for about the same amount of time. Then
it works normally again, provided your software didn't get a timeout.
What can we do ?
Olaf Holthausen
System Manager
Institute for Brain Research
University of Duesseldorf
Germany
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