[comp.os.research] comp.os.research, alive or dead?

darrell@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Darrell Long) (10/18/87)

School has started  at  most  universities,  so  all  researchers
should   be   back   and   available.    It  is  time  to  revive
comp.os.research.

When I was at DCS in Berlin, a lot of folks came  up  to  me  and
said, "I read comp.os.research all the time, but what happened to
it -- there's no traffic anymore, is it dead?" No, it's not dead,
but  we  have  suffered from a lack of submissions.  Certainly as
researchers we can't be content with the  state  of  things:  4.4
will  be  the  last  BSD,  Bell  Labs  isn't releasing any of its
research UNIXes -- I'd like to hear from the  (MACH  |  Sprite  |
DASH | Clouds) folks about this.

SIGOPS  is  coming  up,  perhaps  someone  who  is  going   could
summarize?    There   was   just  a  workshop  on  large  grained
parallelism, I know several folks who were there --  perhaps  one
of  you  could  summarize?   For  my  part, I'll try to work up a
summary of DCS for those who could not attend.

Other things: I'm told that DEC is really  not  cooperating  with
universities  like  it  used  to  do.   They  really want to sell
ULTRIX, so they've made it harder to get machines that  will  run
BSD.  They won't give out bus specs on the new VAXBI machines, so
BSD won't run on them.  This is all very  interesting  to  us  --
research  is  great, but it is not really great unless we produce
something that ultimately makes it "out  there"  and  gets  used.
Could  it  be  that  we  are  returning to the "good old days" of
proprietary  operating  systems?   ULTRIX  as  the  new  VMS,  an
interesting  idea...   The  cooperation we get from manufacturers
greatly influences how  research  projects  progress  --  reverse
engineering  bus  specs is not fun.  Could there come a time when
most research is  done  on  machines  built  by  small  companies
willing  to  give  out  specs?   What  does  this  say  about the
commercial viability of the  products  of  research?   I've  been
raving  too  long,  but I'd like to hear some speculation in tose
directions.

comp.os.research is NOT dead.  But there are too many readers and
not enough submitters.  Take a few minutes and voice your opinion
on the  directions  that  OS  research  should  take.   Certainly
everyone cannot be content with a future dominated by System V.