bala@CS-Mordred (Bala Krishnamurthy) (01/10/85)
i propose starting a new newsgroup called net.india.
this will deal with all useful, relevant information
regarding Indians and India.
the topics i envision <among others> are:
(1) travel to and from india <fares etc.>
(2) new students coming to a certain university
(3) indian restaurants in various parts of this country
(4) latest news [political and sports] from india
(5) movie reviews etc.
(6) anything else that is considered interesting to
an audience that is potentially Indian.
if you think this is a good idea please voice your support
here [net.news.group] and/or send me mail.
Balachander Krishnamurthy bala@purdue (ever reliable ARPA)
Dept. of Computer Science bala.purdue@csnet-relay (reliable CSNET)
Purdue University decvax!purdue!bala (semi reliable usenet)
W. Lafayette IN 47907 317-494-7765 (um, well, er.. GTE)
richard@bigtuna.UUCP (Richard Foulk) (01/13/85)
Gee just what we need net.india! Sort of like proposing net.chevy when net.auto *might* be apropriate. -- Richard Foulk (..islenet!bigtuna!richard)
dina@unisoft.UUCP (Dina Street) (01/14/85)
Why just India? There are also many other fascinating nations
and cultures to explore (Chinese, Middle Eastern, African,
Eastern European, South American, not to mention individual
countries). Wouldn't something like net.international be
more appropriate for what you wish to discuss?
Dina Street
..ucbvax!unisoft!dina
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"Seni seviyorum"
--Kemal Attaturkgam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) (01/16/85)
> = Dina Street ..ucbvax!unisoft!dina > Why just India? There are also many other fascinating nations > and cultures to explore (Chinese, Middle Eastern, African, > Eastern European, South American, not to mention individual > countries). Wouldn't something like net.international be > more appropriate for what you wish to discuss? How about net.asia? Or net.nlang.asia? I realize some may consider this TOO general from the original proposal, but let's gather a bunch of little things together first. The net.india seems to have a following but what about all the other Asian cultures? This makes sense because they are usually thought of as similiar, (and here's a place to learn about differences, too) and could take in other discussions. net.politics and net.religion are overwhelmed by Western predisposition. Net.nlang.asia would something of a "net.Eastern". What do you think? -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam
gam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) (01/16/85)
I forgot to mention that if a particular discussion DOES become
large enough to merit it's own group, it could become (say)
net.nlang.asia.india
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Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gamriddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) (01/17/85)
> How about net.asia? Or net.nlang.asia? I realize some may consider > this TOO general from the original proposal, but let's gather a > bunch of little things together first. The net.india seems to > have a following but what about all the other Asian cultures? > > This makes sense because they are usually thought of as similiar, > (and here's a place to learn about differences, too) and could take > in other discussions. net.politics and net.religion are overwhelmed by > Western predisposition. Net.nlang.asia would something of a > "net.Eastern". Just what does India have in common with {China, Japan, Korea, ...}? Something, to be sure, but probably no more than Greece has with the British Isles. Yet the cultural/ethnic newsgroups that have been created on the net so far are net.nlang.celts and net.nlang.greek, not net.nlang.europe.{celts,greek}. I say that Asia is too broad a topic to merit a newsgroup. The proposal for a newsgroup related to matters Indian came from two Indians, and I suspect that if they'd wanted to include all of Asia in the proposal they'd have done so. As for the other Asian cultures, I think that newsgroups to discuss them would be great, too, provided you can demonstrate that a large enough constituency exists. Until then, feel free to start any cultural/ethnic/linguistic discussions you'd like in net.nlang. I, for one, will be looking forward to them. --- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.") --- {ihnp4,harvard,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddle --- riddle@ut-sally.UUCP, riddle@ut-sally.ARPA, riddle@zotz.ARPA
agrawal@csd2.UUCP (Mukul Babu Agrawal) (01/17/85)
> >> = Dina Street ..ucbvax!unisoft!dina > >> Why just India? There are also many other fascinating nations >> and cultures to explore (Chinese, Middle Eastern, African, >> Eastern European, South American, not to mention individual >> countries). Wouldn't something like net.international be >> more appropriate for what you wish to discuss? > >How about net.asia? Or net.nlang.asia? I realize some may consider >this TOO general from the original proposal, but let's gather a >bunch of little things together first. The net.india seems to >have a following but what about all the other Asian cultures? > >This makes sense because they are usually thought of as similiar, >(and here's a place to learn about differences, too) and could take >in other discussions. net.politics and net.religion are overwhelmed by >Western predisposition. Net.nlang.asia would something of a >"net.Eastern". > >What do you think? >-- >Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam >/* ---------- */ I am sure if I broadcast a message on any of the networks mentioned above or on something like net.asia that Kapildev is back for the fourth testmatch or that a new record of Nazia and Zoheb Hasan is to be released soon , there will be millions of "flames" as to why I broadcast it on net.asia .. As to having different groups like net.lang.asia.india , imagin a group by the name net.lang.humun.world.americas.northamerica.usa-- What a convenient name ? Mukul Agrawal agrawal@csd2.arpa
agrawal@csd2.UUCP (Mukul Babu Agrawal) (01/17/85)
and to continue, if one wants to discuss politics and sports there will be a need for groups like net.sports.indian and net.politics.india etc. Itis not that we are just interested in discussing Indian Languages that we should have net.nlang.india or something like that. If such a thing is done we will need ????.india for millions of different groups. Mukul
agrawal@csd2.UUCP (Mukul Babu Agrawal) (01/17/85)
I guess you should have net.movingobjects rather than net.auto and net.aviation and net.bicycle etc. which you have right now..
rgs7206@acf4.UUCP (Raja) (01/18/85)
I think the idea is a capital one which needs to be pursued further.
Raja Sambamurty
rgs7206@nyu-acf4
{ allegra,ihnp4}cmcl2!acf4!rgs7206naren@ut-sally.UUCP (Narendran Nachiappan) (01/19/85)
> Why just India? There are also many other fascinating nations > and cultures to explore (Chinese, Middle Eastern, African, > Eastern European, South American, not to mention individual > countries). Wouldn't something like net.international be > more appropriate for what you wish to discuss? > > Dina Street > > ..ucbvax!unisoft!dina > > ------ > "Seni seviyorum" > --Kemal Attaturk I don't think you understood the original idea behind the proposal for net.india , Dina . The intention was not the 'exploration of fascinating cultures ' . It was to provide a forum for the discussion of topics which might be of interest to people with an Indian background or some interest in the Indian political/sports/educational/etc.. scene . This alone would , I am sure , be enough discussion material to warrant a news group . I certainly do not think that the group could support the peoples of South America , China Africa and the Middle East too . Please keep in mind that you are referring to more that 2/3 of mankind's nations and cultures . Moreover , I fail to see how some detail of Indian sports like the induction of a new player into the Indian cricket team would be of any interest to you or any other people interested in the exploration of 'fascinating cultures and nations ' . Information of this sort would , on the other hand be of great interest to a person with an Indian background . Probably , we need a seperate net.explore.nation ( or continent if we want to be really general ) Narendran Nachiappan [ naren@ut-sally.ARPA ]
chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuqui Q. Koala) (01/20/85)
>I guess you should have net.movingobjects rather than net.auto and >net.aviation and net.bicycle etc. which you have right now.. No, but we might have net.trans.auto, etc... The problem is that many of these groups were installed before we made the committment to subgrouping, and we haven't really figured out a usable way of renaming them. What we HAVE tried to do, though, is set up new groups to fit in properly with the new naming scheme so we don't need to change it again later. The most appropriate place for a group like this would be 'net.nlang.india' (not 'net.nlang.asia-- much to broad a base), not net.india. This isn't a vote for or against net.nlang.india (although I am not sure there is a lot of need for it, really) just an attempt at an explanation of the overall naming scheme for groups on the net. We've been working, on and off, on a document that we could use to officially put together the naming space of the net, but it is being done by a bunch of volunteers who simply haven't had time to finish it. sigh. chuq -- From the ministry of silly talks: Chuq Von Rospach {allegra,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA National Semiconductor does not require useless disclaimers on posted material that is obviously not posted by company spokesmen...
furuta@uw-beaver (Richard Furuta) (01/22/85)
I've been trying to categorize this request for net.india in my mind. The normal policy would be to say "try it out using group 'net.foo' and if that works out, then you'll have a good argument for creating the list. Well, unfortunately that argument doesn't seem applicable this time because most of the suggestions one might have for a "trial" group seem inappropriate. It finally occurred to me why this is so and why the various suggestions for renamings of the group sounded incorrect. What we have here is a request not for a newsgroup but for a "virtual distribution." Rather than a request for a place for people to discuss a specific topic, what is being asked for is a place where people sharing a common heritage can discuss matters of interest to them. At our University, there are a number of national clubs in addition to the issue-oriented clubs. For example, there are three separate Chinese student groups. I think this is a commendable use of Usenet and would suggest that, if nothing else as an experiment, that this newsgroup be created. If there is an insistance on making it hierarchical, create a new hierarchy so that if other national groups also want to have newsgroups for communication with their fellow countrymen there will be somewhere to put it. Perhaps net.nlang.greek is filling a similar role---I don't know. However, the naming seems to be misleading if it is---it sounds like a place to discuss the greek language rather than a place for people to keep each other current about the news from back home. Could someone who knows fill me in? My feeling is that there are currently a very large number of Indian students studying Computer Science in U.S. Universities (based solely on observation of the makeup of the graduate student population here at the University of Washington). If this is the case, it is another indicator that the newsgroup will be used. --Rick
raghu@ut-sally.UUCP (Raghunath Ramakrishnan) (01/23/85)
> I think the idea is a capital one which needs to be pursued further. > > > Raja Sambamurty > rgs7206@nyu-acf4 > { allegra,ihnp4}cmcl2!acf4!rgs7206 I think net.India is a great idea. I hope others who share this view will get off their rear ends and express their approval and support. *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***