[comp.laser-printers] Linotronic 300 & PageMaker

frontah@PAWL.RPI.EDU (David J Sotnick) (10/28/89)

I have a two-page document in Pagemaker on the Mac and I am trying
to get my grey-scale 256 shade 300 dpi scans to come out looking like a real
picture on the Linotronic 300 set to 2540 Lines/inch.

I tried to do this and I got a terrible result on my scans - they were all
screened really badly. They had dense dots all over them. What am I doing wrong?

I have the apd set for the right printer, and I have no image control settings
just the default grey-scale setting.

Confusedly,

Dave Sotnick
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meuchen@GRAD1.CIS.UPENN.EDU (Paul Eric Menchen) (11/20/89)

In article _ frontah@PAWL.RPI.EDU (David J Sotnick) writes:
>I have a two-page document in Pagemaker on the Mac and I am trying
>to get my grey-scale 256 shade 300 dpi scans to come out looking like a real
>picture on the Linotronic 300 set to 2540 Lines/inch.
>
>I tried to do this and I got a terrible result on my scans - they were all
>screened really badly. They had dense dots all over them. What am I doing wrong?
>

Do you really want 2540 Lines/inch?  I know the Lin 300 has resolution
of 2540 dpi, but I really don't think you want to print at 2540 lpi.
My printer can't take more than about 90 lpi because it can't be
resolved for printing.  Lpi and dpi are not the same thing.
Try setting your lpi to somthing like 90, maybe a little less, and then
print. If you want finer detail and don't need to copy or print, try
something a little higher, but not 2540.  If you do need to print,
talk to your printer and ask what he can take.

Paul Eric Menchen
meuchen@grad1.cis.upenn.edu

mel@fleet.UUCP (mel) (11/22/89)

In article <8911150344.AA03565@crayola.cs.UMD.EDU> frontah@PAWL.RPI.EDU (David J
 Sotnick) writes:
>I have a two-page document in Pagemaker on the Mac ots all over them. What am I
 doing wrong?
It sounds like you may be using a setting that is to high for your DPI's (Dots
Per Inch).  Try setting it to 150 DPI if your scanner software allows it.  The
HP LaserJet Plus has a variable setting for DPI.  Also be sure you're using
the greyscale setting and not one of the dithering alternatives.

Mel Shear
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bradlee@cg-atla.agfa.com (Rob Bradlee) (12/06/89)

In article <8912020336.AA21356@crayola.cs.UMD.EDU> meuchen@GRAD1.CIS.UPENN.EDU (Paul Eric Menchen) writes:
>
>In article _ frontah@PAWL.RPI.EDU (David J Sotnick) writes:
>>I have a two-page document in Pagemaker on the Mac and I am trying
>>to get my grey-scale 256 shade 300 dpi scans to come out looking like a real
>>picture on the Linotronic 300 set to 2540 Lines/inch.
>>
>>I tried to do this and I got a terrible result on my scans - they were all
>>screened really badly. They had dense dots all over them. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>My printer can't take more than about 90 lpi because it can't be
>resolved for printing.  Lpi and dpi are not the same thing.
>Try setting your lpi to somthing like 90, maybe a little less, and then
>print. If you want finer detail and don't need to copy or print, try
>something a little higher, but not 2540.  If you do need to print,
>talk to your printer and ask what he can take.

Ah, the great confusion between SPOTS per inch and DOTS per inch.  The 
printer's dots created by the screening process are described in lines
per inch (screen ruling), while the resolution of the printer is best
described as spots per inch.  The latter are used to create the former.
David's problem is not that he is outputting at 2540 spi (or dpi if you
want to stay confused),  but somewhere else.  First,  I missed the
original article so I don't know how he obtained the image (from a scanner?), 
but the lousy output might really be lousy input.  If the image is known
to be good (i.e. someone made it look right on another system), then
something my indeed be wrong in the output part.  Is the image being 
scaled up at output time?  What screen ruling and angle did you choose?
	Of course, as a good employee of AGFA Compugraphic, I can tell
you the real problem is the choice of imagesetter.  Send me a disk David
and I'll see if it looks better on one of our machines.

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