[net.bugs.uucp] grading in uucico

honey@down.FUN (code 101) (08/03/84)

Piet Beertema, CWI, Amsterdam proposes adding an option to uucico that
disables low priority work requests.  (The priority of a request is
given by the grade character in the work files.)  Brian, Dave and I
(i.e. honey danber) considered this option (i.e., at least one of us
gave it some thought) and rejected it, for the same reason we rejected
several other proposed features:  other tools can provide the same
functionality.  (If you read between the lines, you can glean some of
our basic philosophy.)

In fact, the princeton -> astrovax connection has the characteristics
described:  princeton passes mail on demand but batches news and
prepares the file transfer during off-peak hours (out of crontab).  I
suspect this is a general solution to Piet's problem.

Some asides:  grade characters have full support in honey danber; low
grade jobs (e.g., news) are transmitted last by the sender and executed
last by the receiver.  (A tip of the honey danber hat to Mark Horton.)
Yes, we shed the kernel packet driver support.  Bugs.uucp has
traditionally served a broader function than just bug reports, but
unix-wizards seems a reasonable place as well.  Finally, I am informed
that honey danber will be released this summer.

	Peter Honeyman

piet@mcvax.UUCP (Piet Beertema) (08/06/84)

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	>....passes mail on demand but batches news and prepares the
	>file transfer during off-peak hours....
That's the scheme we follow, but still...

Basically you're right, Peter, that this could solve the problem.
However, it doesn't in all cases. It will only work when you can
be sure to handle the news stuff every night. Almost the opposite
is the case here at mcvax: we can never be sure that setting up a
link to decvax/philabs will succeed every night or even get as far
as transferring news. So there we are: news has been batched up at
the other side for us to transfer during nighttime, but we don't
succeed in getting it; so the next try (during daytime, meant for
mail only) will get us that news, without us having a possibility
to prevent that. That's why I added that grading in uucico and kept
it after switching to batching.
-- 
	Piet Beertema, CWI, Amsterdam
	...{decvax,philabs}!mcvax!piet

lee@west44.UUCP (Lee McLoughlin) (08/12/84)

The UK - UUCP can also be asked to transfer work for particular grades.  It has
the old -g<char> flag to queue work at a particular grade, the grade is honoured
at both the sender and reciever ends.  It also has the -O<char> flag which can
be given to uucp, uux, uucico and uupoll which will cause only files queued
at that grade to be transfered.

Also since it was the UKUUCP which clashed with Piet's  I second discussing any
additional flags on the net but we may as well keep all uucp discussions in 
net.bugs.uucp.

Finally a plug for UKUUCP.  It is available, hopefully at least one neighbour
of most sites will have a copy and should be willing to pass it on.  It should
prove to be particularly usefull to JANET sites since they can use the net
to transfer over.

	LMCL.
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Lee McLoughlin	<UK>!ukc!lmcl, west44!lee
	UKUUCP support.