[net.bugs.uucp] ULTRIX uucp vs. 4.3bsd

rubin@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Mike Rubin) (05/09/86)

It seems that ULTRIX uucp defaults to "send even parity and accept
ONLY EVEN PARITY".  This makes it unable to converse with various
other systems, including (it seems) 4.3bsd.  The fix: you must put
the magic cookie "P_ZERO" in your send-expect sequence, e.g.
	foovax Any ACU 1200 5551212 "" P_ZERO ....

--Mike Rubin	Timeplex, Inc.	{topaz, philabs!wu1}!timeplex!mrubin

grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) (05/12/86)

In article <4938@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> rubin@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Mike Rubin) writes:
>
>It seems that ULTRIX uucp defaults to "send even parity and accept
>ONLY EVEN PARITY".  This makes it unable to converse with various
>other systems, including (it seems) 4.3bsd.  The fix: you must put
>the magic cookie "P_ZERO" in your send-expect sequence, e.g.
>	foovax Any ACU 1200 5551212 "" P_ZERO ....
>
>--Mike Rubin	Timeplex, Inc.	{topaz, philabs!wu1}!timeplex!mrubin

Please remember to indicate what release you are talking about, and
provide more historical and environmental information.

We have been using Ultrix 1.1 on a 750, and have made uucp connections
to various machines and flaovers of unix without running into any parity
related problems.  So, are you talking about a new Ultrix 1.2 problem, or
do you have some other kind of problem?
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ken@ektools.UUCP (Kenneth J. Lester) (05/12/86)

In article <4938@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> rubin@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Mike Rubin) writes:
>
>It seems that ULTRIX uucp defaults to "send even parity and accept
>ONLY EVEN PARITY".  This makes it unable to converse with various
>other systems, including (it seems) 4.3bsd.  The fix: you must put
>the magic cookie "P_ZERO" in your send-expect sequence, e.g.
>	foovax Any ACU 1200 5551212 "" P_ZERO ....
>
>--Mike Rubin	Timeplex, Inc.	{topaz, philabs!wu1}!timeplex!mrubin

We were using Ultrix-32 1.1 on a VAX 750, and have made uucp connections to
various unix machines (Version 7, Sun 2.2, and System 5.2) without running 
into any parity problems.  A week ago we upgrade to Ultrix-32 1.2 and it
didn't break any of our uucp connections.  We do not use P_ZERO in our 
send-expect sequence.  In fact the uucp installation and administration 
manual for both versions state that P_ZERO is the default.

It would be helpful if you stated the exact version of Ultrix that is causing
this difficulty.

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rubin@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Mike Rubin) (05/16/86)

> >It seems that ULTRIX uucp defaults to "send even parity and accept
> >ONLY EVEN PARITY"....
> 
> We were using Ultrix-32 1.1 on a VAX 750, and have made uucp connections to
> various unix machines (Version 7, Sun 2.2, and System 5.2) without running 
> into any parity problems.... [and Ultrix 1.2 also works]

We're also running Ultrix-32 1.1 on a VAX-750; from the replies on the
net I am beginning to suspect our modems (Microcom's) are munging something
although I told them to use 8 bits, no parity.  Oh well.
Wasn't there traffic on the net a while back describing some uucp problem
between Ultrix and 4.3?

--Mike Rubin	{topaz, philabs!wu1}!timeplex!mrubin

craig@ur-laser.UUCP (Craig Harris) (05/19/86)

Don't know if this is what you are having problems with, but I have
gotten these microcom modems functional with uucp on a couple of
machines, though not Ultrix 1.2. You might check to make sure that
the Flow Control is turned off.   That has bitten me several times.
UUCP (at least the versions I was working with) doesn't handle that well.

Craig Harris
Laboratory for Laser Energetics
University of Rochester

avolio@decuac.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) (05/22/86)

In article <4971@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>, rubin@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Mike Rubin) writes:
> We're also running Ultrix-32 1.1 on a VAX-750; from the replies on the
> net I am beginning to suspect our modems (Microcom's) are munging something
> ... Wasn't there traffic on the net a while back describing some uucp problem
> between Ultrix and 4.3?

Look, for the record...  We run Ultrix-32 V1.2.  We ran V1.1 and V1.0.
Ran all the field test versions in between.  We talk to System V
systems, 4.2BSD systems, 4.1C systems, V7 systems, 4.3 systems, and
System III systems.  We talk to Goulds, Pyramids, other VAXes, Wicats
(at a time), and a 3B-something.  We don't have problems with UUCP to
any of them.  The same can be said for DECVAX, a usenet backbone site.
Why DECVAX even talks to european systems! :-)

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