[comp.os.vms] Info-Vax Digest V0 #15

Info-Vax-REQUEST@KL.SRI.COM (Ramon Curiel) (05/09/87)

Info-Vax Digest           Friday, 8 May 1987       Volume 0 : Issue 15

Today's Topics:
  Source UIS font file format    Do any of you folks know where the source font file format is described?
  Re: C++ Users
  Re: Terminal capture program wanted
  uucp, news sftw for VMS
  Re: Info-Vax Digest   V0 #10
  PHOTO
  RE: DECserver problems
  TCP/IP on Microvax
  Is anyone using 3rd party decnet under 4.xBSD?
  Where are PCB$ and SCH$ defines??
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Date: 7 May 1987 21:02:24 EST
From: Eric.Thayer@PS1.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Source UIS font file format    Do any of you folks know
         where the source font file format is described?

They are apparently MACRO files, but that is as far as I got with the docs
that I have available to me.  Where are these files described in detail?
                                        Thanks!

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Date: 6 May 87 07:58:05 GMT
From: mcvax!ukc!reading!onion!brueer!graham@seismo.css.gov  (Graham J
      Carpenter)
Subject: Re: C++ Users

In article <8704290946.AA28909@edison.GE.COM> uucp@edison.ge.COM (UNIX-to-UNIX Copy) writes:
>>From: Ken Wallewein <kenw%noah.arc.cdn%ubc.csnet@RELAY.CS.NET>
>>Maybe this isn't the correct forum, but I don't know of a better one, so...
>>I have been watching with great interest any news on C++.
>
>I don't know of any better forum, but there is an arpanet mailing
>list for C which occasionally touched on C++ occasionally when I
>monitored it about 2 years ago.

The arpanet mailing list for C is gatewayed to the usenet newsgroup comp.lang.c.
There is also a usenet group called comp.lang.c++. I'm sure that this must be
gatewayed to an appropriate arpanet mailing list, but I don't have any details
of these lists. Comp.lang.c++ is full of debate on the kind of questions you
have and I would suggest you try and find the name of that mailing list.

Graham

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Date: 6 May 87 16:18:18 GMT
From: mnetor!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!jimp@seismo.css.gov  (Jim
      Patterson)
Subject: Re: Terminal capture program wanted

In article <2895@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> rde@ukc.ac.uk (R.D.Eager) writes:
>I am after a program to enable recording of a terminal session on VMS.

The usual "trick" to do this is to use DecNET.  The remote login
command, SET HOST, supports a LOG parameter that diverts a copy of
the session to a disk file.  For example:

$ SET HOST 0/LOG=logfile

(0 allows you to link to your current node). Note that VMS supports
SET HOST even if you haven't purchased DecNET; what DecNET provides
is the ability to talk to some other computer besides your own.

The drawback of this approach is that you have to log onto the
system again.  It's also expensive because the entire terminal
session is being passed through the DecNET software.
--
Jim Patterson
Cognos Inc.

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Date: 7 May 87 03:27:26 GMT
From: mnetor!spectrix!rmc@seismo.css.gov  (Russell Crook)
Subject: uucp, news sftw for VMS

This may be a silly question, but ... that never stopped me before:

Does uucp and/or news software exist on VMS as something that will connect
directly to the net (and not as some sort of gateway)? I have a VMS system
which I would like to connect to the net, as my access to the net via UN*x
is sporadic.

Russell Crook ( UUCP: ...!seismo!{mnetor,utzoo}!spectrix!rmc )

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Date: Fri, 08 May 87 11:39:57 GMT
From: John Nolan  Computer Center UCD
      <JNOLAN%IRLEARN.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Info-Vax Digest   V0 #10


RE: Login Setup (MACALLSTR%vax1.physics.oxford.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK)

  Sure it's nice for the user to have everything defined, however it
becomes pretty hard for the guy who has to maintain it all. We have
multiple Vaxen which range from Administrative systems to Image
Processing front-ends, from the users viewpoint they are all different,
from mine they are all just Vaxes. On every machine SYS$SYLOGIN is the
same as so is the login procedure, SYS$SYLOGIN executed, then group
login (via UAF LGICMD field). In some cases the group login adds a
sharable logical name table to the logical name table search list or
defines come extra symbols/verbs. For non captive users it is always up to
them to do a SETUP on the package required and the HELP files tell them this
fact.
    If you start 'Pampering'  your users then they'll expect to be 'Pampered'.
Force them to at least learn how to use HELP/SETUP, then when your second
VAX arrives you'r in control, not them.

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Date: 8-MAY-1987 13:24:53
From: SYSMGR%UK.AC.KCL.PH.IPG@AC.UK
Subject: PHOTO

Since I haven't seen any feedback about PHOTO yet, here goes...

PHOTO is a utility which I last saw on the VAX85C DECUS symposium tape,
in [.BATTELLE.PTY]. It provides a disc log of a terminal session, and the
results are very similar to those obtained by SET HOST/LOG=... 0
However, since you have the source, you can at least play with the output
formatting!

Of much greater interest is the way it works. It uses a pseudo-terminal
device driver called PTYDRIVER. This device is similar to a unix pipe,
except that it is bi-directional and fully terminal-qio compatible.
(eg its a software emulation of two TT ports connected with a null modem).
So, you can connect your process to one end and create a new log-in on
the other (or alternatively, attach any process which expects to ALLOCATE
a terminal... )

Be warned, it uses the undocumented terminal port interface to TTDRIVER,
and any bugs in it are likely to crash your system. I know that on VMS 4.2
it DID crash systems, due to a bug in TTDRIVER (the DEC bit) rather than
PTYDRIVER. I don't know its current status.

Nigel Arnot (Dept. Physics, Kings college, Univ. of London;  U.K)

Bitnet/NetNorth/Earn:   sysmgr@ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk (or) sysmgr%kcl.ph.vaxa@ac.uk
       Arpa         :   sysmgr%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@ucl-cs.arpa

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Date: 8 May 87 08:10:00 PDT
From: "Oberman, Kevin" <oberman@lll-icdc.arpa>
Reply-to: "Oberman, Kevin" <oberman@lll-icdc.arpa>
Subject: RE: DECserver problems

>How about changing the SYSGEN parameter TTY_TYPAHDSZ, which determines the
>size of the typeahead buffer (not the alternate buffer at all)?

Thanks for the idea, but the nice folks in Colorado Springs pointed out
yesterday: The buffer that is overflowing is the one in the DECserver. Nothing
that's done to VMS will make any difference.

Their only suggestion is to lower thee baud rate (2400 still doesn't work),
lower the circuit timer from 80 to 40 (no luck there, either), or use a
DECserver200 with hardware flow control. Now, if I only had a spare
DECserver200!

                                        R. Kevin Oberman
                                        Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
                                        arpa: oberman@lll-icdc.arpa
                                        (415) 422-6955

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Date: Fri,  8-MAY-1987 19:29:15.67 GMT+1
From: <zrgc002%DTUZDV5A.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> (Christoph D. Gatzka)
Subject: TCP/IP on Microvax

Does anyboy have experience with tcp/ip on Microvax connected to Ethernet,
possibly using wollongong ? Is there somebody that has a maier for a
jnet/tcp/ip connection ?

 Christoph D. Gatzka                zrgc002@dtuzdv5a.bitnet
 Student of medicine

 University of Tuebingen
 Germany

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Date: 7 May 87 04:16:35 GMT
From: munnari!moncskermit!basser!uqcspe!pete@seismo.css.gov  (Peter
      McMahon)
Subject: Is anyone using 3rd party decnet under 4.xBSD?

Hi,
Is there anybody who is using or has seen a 3rd party decnet
running under 4.x (preferably Vax/uVax)?

I am particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has had contact
with the Technology Concepts offering.

I'm interested in any comments or observations you may have about the
implementation.  If anybody cares, I'll summarise and post whatever
replies I get.

Yours, etc...
Peter McMahon

Computer Science Department,            Phone:  +61 7 377 4276
University of Queensland,               ACSnet: pete@uqcspe.oz
St Lucia, Brisbane, 4067                ARPA:   pete%uqcspe.oz@seismo.css.gov
Australia.                              UUCP:   ..!seismo!munnari!uqcspe.oz!pete

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Date: 8 May 87 14:40:44 GMT
From: siemens!jrv@princeton.edu  (James R Vallino)
Subject: Where are PCB$ and SCH$ defines??


I am attempting to use SYS$GETJPI to find information about processes.
Two of the items of information which I need are JPI$_STATE and JPI$_STS.
The returned values make use of SCH$ and PCB$ defines respectively.

I am using C for my programs and have searched through SYS$LIBRARY:*.H and
can not find anything which looks correct for these symbols.  The System
Services documentation says that they are in $STATEDEF and $PCBDEF macros.
So, I looked for them in STARLET.MLB hoping to extract the macros and then
write my own '.h' include file with the proper information. No luck there
either.  I saw no module in STARLET.MLB with the required names. Checks of
things which looked close got nowhere.

Where is this information???  If someone has previously needed this data for
a C program and has already created '.h' files I would greatly appreciate
a copy of them.

Thanks in advance.
Jim Vallino
Siemens Research and Technology Lab.
Princeton, NJ
CSNET: jrv@siemens.siemens-rtl.com
UUCP: {ihnp4,philabs,seismo}!princeton!siemens!jrv

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