CSERH000@KENTVMS.BITNET (06/04/87)
We are looking at LISP products, to run on various VMS systems, and would like to solicit some help in the following questions... 1. Does anyone have experiences to share with Franz Lisp Opus 43, for VMS. In particular, its resource usage, bugs, support from Franz Inc., etc. 2. Does anyone know of the availability of a public domain Common Lisp for VMS, as well as a public domain OPS5 for Common Lisp. 3. And last, but not least, does anyone have experiences to share on the DEC OPS5, in particular, its interface to Franz Lisp and DEC Common Lisp. Leo Holmberg BITNET : CSERH000@KENTVMS Phone : (216) 672-7971
graham@DRCVAX.ARPA ("Daniel J. Graham") (06/05/87)
Leo, I can only speak from a systems manager viewpoint. Every AI type product we have run on our VAXen (780s & 785s) has been a resource pig. We have Franz Lisp, Prolog, and just tossed out Themis. I can only say that allit takes is one or two users on those products and the machine is useless for any other processing. They require huge working sets, eat virtual pages like they were candy and complain bitterly if they don't get all the resources they want. My personal opinion is don't use them on a VAX, they should wait for a faster parallel machine. Hackito, ergo sum. Dan Graham, Dynamics Research Corporation, (617) 475-9090 Ext. 2352 GRAHAM@DRCVAX.ARPA Hoc est meum hackum. Ideas and opinions are mine, not my employers. In fact, my employer barely claims to know me at all. I make no claim to sanity in any form or on any level. ------
dp@JASPER.PALLADIAN.COM (Jeffrey Del Papa) (06/09/87)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 87 14:53 EST
From: <CSERH000%KENTVMS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
We are looking at LISP products, to run on various VMS systems, and would like
to solicit some help in the following questions...
1. Does anyone have experiences to share with Franz Lisp Opus 43, for VMS. In
particular, its resource usage, bugs, support from Franz Inc., etc.
2. Does anyone know of the availability of a public domain Common Lisp for VMS,
as well as a public domain OPS5 for Common Lisp.
3. And last, but not least, does anyone have experiences to share on the DEC
OPS5, in particular, its interface to Franz Lisp and DEC Common Lisp.
Leo Holmberg
BITNET : CSERH000@KENTVMS
Phone : (216) 672-7971
There is MIT NIL, which is public domain. Development has been all but stopped (the
original authors have all left MIT) but it still runs and is still avaialable (and
they occaisonaly still work on it). I have forwarded this message to one of the
involved, hopefully he will respond with ordering information.
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