SYSRUTH@UTORPHYS.BITNET (06/16/87)
Please, please, please, can we limit this mailing list to problems and solutions? I cleaned out 340 backlogged info-vax messages last night, and this morning there were 50 more waiting. I don't know about the rest of you, but I simply can't handle this kind of volume. Much of it is useful, so I don't want to unsubscribe, but is it really necessary to carry on discussions about posting patches etc. for over two weeks? To keep up I would have to spend an hour and a half every day doing nothing but reading mail, and I just don't have that kind of time to spare. I hope this doesn't start yet another prolonged discussion/debate. It is not intended for that purpose. There must be others out there who, like me, are ... Drowning in the Deluge Ruth Milner Systems Manager University of Toronto Physics SYSRUTH@UTORPHYS.BITNET P.S. Thanks for listening.
graham@DRCVAX.ARPA.UUCP (06/19/87)
Greetings and Mortifications: Ruth Milner has a good point, there is a great deal of traffic on, sometimes, small subjects. However, I find the interplay instructive and a good learning experience. Until I found this net, I felt rather isolated as a VAX systems manager, in a company that wouldn't send me to DECUS or pay for any good magazines. Even if a series of postings aren't about a subject in which I'm currently interested, I learn from comments, examples, and seeing how others think. The volume is sometimes a bother to me too; but I find it so instructive to see how others handle problems, that I think the volume is worth the time I have to devote to get through it. Hackito, ergo sum. Dan Graham, Dynamics Research Corporation, (617) 475-9090 Ext. 2352 GRAHAM@DRCVAX.ARPA Hoc est meum hackum. Ideas and opinions are mine, not my employers. In fact, my employer barely claims to know me at all. I make no claim to sanity in any form or on any level. ------ ------
forrest@blia.BLI.COM (Jon Forrest) (06/22/87)
Comments have surfaced recently complaining about the volume of messages in this group. I disagree. Of all the groups I read this group has one of the highest information to B.S. ratios. In addition, it has very few of the typical wiseass postings you see in other groups. Perhaps the problem with this group is that there are so many knowledgable people who have a lot to say about an area in which so many things are happening. This is no vice. One thing I could suggest is for people posting questions to double check the documentation before posting a question. Recently, there have been several questions posted that had simple obvious answers in the documentation. I realize that due the the size and complexity of VMS documentation, obvious answers may not be immediately visable. Also, inexperienced VMS users sometimes don't know where to look to find an answer. Now that we're not in digest format anymore (thank goodness), my opinion is that the 'n' (or even the 'k') key, or equivalent, is an adequate solution if you think the volume on this group is too great. Jon Forrest {pyramid|voder}!blia!forrest ucbvax!mtxinu!blia!forrest P.S. I don't mean to imply that I've never asked an unecessary question myself.