[comp.os.vms] Backups and disks

RMALOUF@SBCCMAIL.BITNET (Rob Malouf) (07/07/87)

Hello,

     I have two questions that I hope someone out there can answer.  First, do
I really need software checksums in my VAX backups?  I have read that they are
not really necessary and only degrade performance.  Does anyone have any
experience with not using them?  Any comments?  I am running a VAX 11/730 with
VMS 4.5 and a Cipher 990 GCR CacheTape 9-track tape drive for backups.

    My next question may be a little more difficult.  In the next few weeks, we
will be upgrading our site from a lowly VAX 11/730 to a VAX 8530 with a
VAXstation II/GPX networked to it and six diskless VAXstation 2000s in a
Local Area VAXcluster with the 8530 as a boot node.  Unfortunately, we could
not afford network hardware/software for the 11/730, so it will not be part of
this configuration.  However, I noticed in the documentation that an RA81
disk drive can be driven by two UDA50 controllers.  If this is really true,
then I could connect the 11/730's RA81 to controllers in both machines.
This kind of dual-porting would create a shared disk drive and a "poor-man's"
VAXcluster!  All my instincts say that it could never work, but why not?  Has
anyone actually tried this?  And by the way, does anyone know how I can get
the _Guide_to_Local_Area_VAXclusters_?  It is mentioned in the documentation
for MicroVMS/WS, but I did not receive it with the LAVC software, and I can't
even find it in the Winter/Spring 1987 _Software_Documentation_Products_
Directory_!

Any help anyone can give me would be GREATLY appreciated.  Thank you.

Rob Malouf
Marine Sciences Research Center
State University of New York
Stony Brook, NY  11794-5000
RMALOUF@SBCCMAIL.BITNET

garry@batcomputer.UUCP (07/09/87)

In a recent article RMALOUF@SBCCMAIL.BITNET (Rob Malouf) wrote:
>...  However, I noticed in the documentation that an RA81
>disk drive can be driven by two UDA50 controllers.  If this is really true,
>then I could connect the 11/730's RA81 to controllers in both machines.
>This kind of dual-porting would create a shared disk drive and a "poor-man's"
>VAXcluster!  All my instincts say that it could never work...

A shared disk drive does not a Vaxcluster make. The only reason people
dual-port disks on VMS, I think, is so that they can be manually switched
(without having to move cables) over to machine B if machine A goes down.

More seriously, Dec says you can't plug an RA81 into a microVax (at least
our uVax's) at all - seems Dec screwed up such that the necessary cabling 
would break FCC rules. I assume that that means there would be "too much"
RF leaking out of the cabinet.

As a result of this, we are in the process of throwing away our RA81's and -
after years of loyalty - buying non-Dec disk drives.

garry wiegand   (garry@oak.cadif.cornell.edu - ARPA)
		(garry@crnlthry - BITNET)

PS - if you *do* have a dual-ported disk it might be a fun exercise to
   persuade VMS that it's "actually" an Ethernet... no technical reason
   why it couldn't be done.  Performance from the "remote" node would
   be terrible though.