F31HEI@DHHDESY3.BITNET (09/18/87)
After defining many logicals (>30) in systartup.com and sylogin.com 00000100
I have the problem that the command 00000200
SHOW LOGICAL 00000300
won't work. It gives the error message: 00000400
%LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory 00000500
I searched the system messages manual, but can't find this message 00000510
with the Facility LIB. 00000520
00000530
We are working on a uVAX II VAX-Station under VMS 4.5/WS V3.0 with 00000540
9 MByte Memory. 00000600
In SYSGEN the VIRTUALPAGECNT Parameter is set to 00000700
Current=50000,default=8192,minimum=512,maximum=300000 pages 00000800
Setting it to 300000 does not help. 00000900
System page file is 20000 block, swap file is 6000 blocks. 00001000
Also there are parameters PGFLQOUTA and WSQUOTA. Since I'm totally 00001100
new in system management on a VAX I have no idea which parameter 00001200
I have to change. Any help to this problem is welcome, please 00001300
send answers direct to 00001400
Bitnet address: F31HEI@DHHDESY3 00001500
or to INFO-VAX, if you can't reach me. 00001600
Thanks in advance, F.-H. Heinsius 00001700leichter@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU ("Jerry Leichter") (09/18/87)
After defining many logicals (>30) in systartup.com and sylogin.com 00000100 I have the problem that the command 00000200 SHOW LOGICAL 00000300 won't work. It gives the error message: 00000400 %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory 00000500 I searched the system messages manual, but can't find this message 00000510 with the Facility LIB. 00000520 ... Wow, card-image mail messages. What won't the BITNET world come up with next! :-) INSVIRMEM is a pretty generic message, and can be signalled by almost any facility that runs out of memory. It always means just what it says. 30, 40, even 100 system logicals is not "many" - any VAXStation with UIS and GKS probably has 100 just to define all the various fonts. You have a real problem somewhere. Two things I'd check: Whatever the system-wide VIRTUALPAGCNT (or whatever the parameter name is) may be, two things can restrict how much virtual memory a process can have: The UAF value of PAGFILQUO for the account the process is logged into; and the actual amount of space available in the page file. It's probably also possible to screw things up by mis-setting certain other para- meters, like WSMAX, though it would take some doing. My suggestion: Check pagefile sizes (SHO MEM command) and PAGFILQUO values (with SYSUAF). If they look reasonable, go through your MODPARAMS.DAT file to make sure nothing unexpected was slipped in there, then do an AUTOGEN. If it still doesn't work, I suggest trying to find a local guru - it's then likely to be too subtle to find over the net. -- Jerry ------
F31HEI@DHHDESY3.BITNET.UUCP (09/20/87)
After defining many logicals (>30) in systartup.com and sylogin.com I have the problem that the command SHOW LOGICAL won't work. It gives the error message: %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory I searched the system messages manual, but can't find this message with the Facility LIB. We are working on a uVAX II VAX-Station under VMS 4.5/WS V3.0 with 9MByte Memory. In SYSGEN the VIRTUALPAGECNT Parameter is set to Current=50000,default=8192,minimum=512,maximum=300000 pages Setting it to 300000 does not help. System page file is 20000 block, swap file is 6000 blocks. Also there are parameters PGFLQOUTA and WSQUOTA. Since I'm totally new in system management on a VAX I have no idea which parameter I have to change. Any help to this problem is welcome, please send answers direct to Bitnet address: F31HEI@DHHDESY3 or to INFO-VAX, if you can't reach me. Thanks in advance, F.-H. Heinsius
jeh@crash.CTS.COM (Jamie Hanrahan) (09/20/87)
In article <8709192235.AA10931@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> F31HEI@DHHDESY3.BITNET writes: > ... SHOW LOGICAL gives the error message: > %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory > ... >In SYSGEN the VIRTUALPAGECNT Parameter is set to >Current=50000,default=8192,minimum=512,maximum=300000 pages >Setting it to 300000 does not help. >System page file is 20000 blocks, swap file is 6000 blocks. >Also there are parameters PGFLQUOTA and WSQUOTA. Since I'm totally >new in system management on a VAX I have no idea which parameter >I have to change. Any help to this problem is welcome... Jerry Leichter's comments on this issue are correct. A couple of things in your query prompted me to add a few things: If you're that new to VMS system management, you may be unaware that you can't change VIRTUALPAGECNT just by doing a SET command in SYSGEN. At minimum you have to SYSGEN> SET VIRTUALPAGECNT new_value SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT ! writes the system image with the new value ! to disk ...then shut down and reboot your system. But I said "at minimum". VIRTUALPAGECNT is one of the parameters you should never change (at least not to increase it, certainly not to increase it by a factor of 6) directly through SYSGEN. Instead you should edit the file SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT, adding the line ADD_VIRTUALPAGECNT=increment to the end; then use the AUTOGEN command procedure to generate new SYSGEN parameters: $ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS REBOOT The above command will reboot your system automatically with the new parameters. There are other options for the less confident; check the AUTOGEN documentation. The reason for using AUTOGEN is that increasing VIRTUALPAGECNT increases the number of physical pages of memory required to map the process headers for your balance set. If you make the combination of VIRTUALPAGECNT and BALSETCNT Too Big, you'll have an unbootable system. --- Jamie Hanrahan jeh@pnet01.cts.com or pnet01!jeh@crash.cts.com ...sdcsvax!crash!pnet01!jeh
rde@eagle.ukc.ac.uk (R.D.Eager) (09/21/87)
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I believe that the quotas of the startup process are governed by the PQL_...
system parameters. Is one of these set to a too low value?
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Bob Eager (Captain Nemo)
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Phone: +44 227 764000 ext 7589bdcsccs@cae780.UUCP (09/22/87)
>After defining many logicals (>30) in systartup.com and sylogin.com 00000100 >I have the problem that the command 00000200 > SHOW LOGICAL 00000300 >won't work. It gives the error message: 00000400 > %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory 00000500 >I searched the system messages manual, but can't find this message 00000510 >with the Facility LIB. 00000520 > ... > > We had a similar problem to this a while ago. The solution was to raise the (undocumented) sysgen parameter CTLPAGES. On our b+w VAXStations, we keep CLTPAGES at 500; on a gpx ,it's at 900. Hope this helps. Charlie Way CAE Systems Div. Tektronix 482 Bedford Street Lexington, MA 02173 (617)861-5868