RAND@merrimack.EDU ("Rand P. Hall") (02/18/88)
Can anyone provide a rational for SYS$ANNOUNCE and SYS$WELCOME's limit of 63 characters? Rand P. Hall rand@merrimack.edu (csnet) Director, Academic Computing 617.683.7111 Merrimack College 315 Turnpike Rd. "There is elegance in simplicity." North Andover, Mass. 01845 - Kimball S. Maddocks
helen@uhccux.UUCP (Helen Rapozo) (02/24/88)
In article <8802231609.AA21202@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> RAND@merrimack.EDU ("Rand P. Hall") writes: >Can anyone provide a rational for SYS$ANNOUNCE and SYS$WELCOME's limit >of 63 characters? > >Rand P. Hall rand@merrimack.edu (csnet) >Director, Academic Computing 617.683.7111 >Merrimack College >315 Turnpike Rd. "There is elegance in simplicity." >North Andover, Mass. 01845 - Kimball S. Maddocks No idea as to why the 63 character limit, but it is a logical and you can point it to a file by putting a '@' before the text. For example: DEFINE/SYSTEM SYS$ANNOUNCE @SYS$MANAGER:ANNOUNCE.TXT -- "No sweat, parts are parts"
gil@icus.UUCP (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) (02/26/88)
In article <8802231609.AA21202@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> RAND@merrimack.EDU ("Rand P. Hall") writes: >Can anyone provide a rational for SYS$ANNOUNCE and SYS$WELCOME's limit >of 63 characters? > >Rand P. Hall rand@merrimack.edu (csnet) I've never seen the limit you speak of (therefore, I can't provdide a a rationale for it) .. but I do know if you define SYS$ANNOUNCE and SYS$WELCOME to point to a file: $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC SYS$WELCOME "@SYS$MANAGER:WELCOME.TXT" I never had a problem with a limit this way. If you need more than 63 characters, try this. Note though that the description generated by LATCP for your decservers for that computer's service name will be messed-up unless you specifically specify one (not use the default of the message in the SYS@WELCOME string). +====================================+========================================+ | Gil Kloepfer, Jr. | Net-Address: | | Senior Programmer | {boulder,ihnp4,talcott}!icus!gil | | Bowne Management Systems, Inc. | Voice: Home: (516) 968-6860 | | 235 E. Jericho Turnpike | Office: (516) 248-6840 x796 | | Mineola, New York 11501 | Internet: gil@icus.UUCP | +====================================+========================================+ | Disclaimer: My employers know I'm right, but will never admit to it... | +=============================================================================+
rrk@byuvax.bitnet (02/26/88)
The fact that you can specify "@sys$manager:welcome.txt" as your definition of SYS$WELCOME and then put the real text in a file makes that limit OK.
seibel@cgl.ucsf.edu (George Seibel%Kollman) (02/26/88)
In article <8802231609.AA21202@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> RAND@merrimack.EDU ("Rand P. Hall") writes: >Can anyone provide a rational for SYS$ANNOUNCE and SYS$WELCOME's limit >of 63 characters? I for one sure hate to sit around watching 1000 bytes of somebody's dumb welcome message scroll by at 1200 baud... maybe someone's trying to tell us something. George Seibel UCSF
cfchiesa@bsu-cs.UUCP (Sir Xetwnk) (02/27/88)
In article <10721@cgl.ucsf.EDU>, seibel@cgl.ucsf.edu (George Seibel%Kollman) writes: > In article <8802231609.AA21202@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> RAND@merrimack.EDU ("Rand P. Hall") writes: > >Can anyone provide a rational for SYS$ANNOUNCE and SYS$WELCOME's limit > >of 63 characters? > > I for one sure hate to sit around watching 1000 bytes of somebody's > dumb welcome message scroll by at 1200 baud... maybe someone's trying > to tell us something. > > George Seibel > UCSF George, you might find THIS trick handy; I do the following for the very reason you mention -- too-long welcome text on too-slow terminals: Enter your username as usual. Enter your password as usual, but IMMEDIATELY after pressing return, press CONTROL O ("oh," not "zero"). If you catch it fast enough you can turn the *OUTPUT OFF* before any welcome text spews out at you. This disables ALL output until you are actually logged in; output resumes somewhere be- tween that point and execution of the system LOGIN.COM (basically, what I mean is that any output in YOUR login.com will come out as always, and that by the time you get to type anything, output will have been restored for you). Chris Chiesa Ball State University -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Chris Chiesa <><><><><> <> {ihpn4|seismo}!{iuvax|pur-ee}!bsu-cs!cfchiesa <> <> cfchiesa@bsu-cs.UUCP <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>