fsimmons@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU (Frank Simmons) (02/27/88)
Can VMS KERMIT run with an initialization file? IF so what is it called and where should it be located?
carl@CITHEX.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) (03/02/88)
> Can VMS KERMIT run with an initialization file? IF so what is it called and > where should it be located? VMS Kermit-32 version 3.1.066 looks for the file VMSKERMIT.INI in your current default directory for initialization.
labovitz%etd1.DECnet@AFWAL-AAA.ARPA ("ETD1::LABOVITZ") (03/02/88)
>Date: 26 Feb 88 22:21:46 GMT >From: fsimmons@ub.d.umn.edu (Frank Simmons) >Organization: U. of Minnesota-Duluth, Computer Center >Subject: VMS KERMIT >Message-Id: <228@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU> >Sender: info-vax-request@kl.sri.com >To: info-vax@kl.sri.com > > > Can VMS KERMIT run with an initialization file? IF so what is it called and > where should it be located? > VMS KERMIT (otherwise known as KERMIT-32) does not automatically take an initialization file, as far as I remember. However, you can use the TAKE command (as in TAKE filename.type ) to process a personalized initialization sequence. Since KERMIT-32 is no longer being refined, you may wish to move over to C-KERMIT 4E(070), dated 29 Jan 88, which does operate under VMS and which will automatically process the initialization file sys$login:KERMIT.INI upon entry. You can obtain the source files for C-KERMIT 4E(070) from Columbia University (internet host cu20b.columbia.edu, anonymous login, files are in K2:), or I can send you a VMS_SHAR set of the sources. LT Stuart L Labovitz USAF Avionics Laboratory arpa: Labovitz%Etd2.decnet@Afwal-aaa.arpa Minds of the strongest and most active powers fall below mediocrity and labor without effect, if confined to uncongenial pursuits. And it is thence to be inferred, that the results of human exertion may be immensely increased by diversifying its objects. ----- Alexander Hamilton ------
sdowdy@charon.unm.edu (Stephen Dowdy) (03/07/88)
In article <880302023027.1a4c@CitHex.Caltech.Edu> carl@CITHEX.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes: > > > Can VMS KERMIT run with an initialization file? IF so what is it called and > > where should it be located? > >VMS Kermit-32 version 3.1.066 looks for the file VMSKERMIT.INI in your >current default directory for initialization. If you dump the KERMIT executable, you'll see in one of the first few blocks what appears to be a PARSE spec with VMSKERMIT and .INI as file specs. You can define VMSKERMIT to be any file you like, and Kermit will try to open PARSE("VMSKERMIT",".INI"), which will find your file first as VMSKERMIT will be translated via TRNLNM. So, Here at UNM we have the following defined: $ Define/System VMSKERMIT SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSFOREIGN.KERMIT]VMSKERMIT.INI Kermit, by default, will then open the system defined file and not the one in your current directory. A user may override the system definition via: $ Define/Process VMSKERMIT MY_DIR:KERMIT.INIT This allows the most flexibility, and helps to ensure, at least for our site, that an unknowledgeable user will be configured with the "standard" kermit parameters that optimize transfer over our network. (and will function with our help desk's standard Micro Distribution disk MSKERMIT.INI files) --stephen -- $!####################################################################### $! stephen dowdy (UNM CIRT) Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87131 (505) 277-8044 $! Usenet: {convex,ucbvax,gatech,csu-cs,anl-mcs}!unmvax!charon!sdowdy $! BITNET: sdowdy@unmb $! Internet: sdowdy@charon.UNM.EDU $! Team SPAM in '87! SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMM! $!#######################################################################
u3369429@ucsvc.dn.mu.oz (Michael Bednarek) (03/08/88)
In article <8803061034.AA29037@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, labovitz%etd1.DECnet@AFWAL-AAA.ARPA ("ETD1::LABOVITZ") writes: >>Date: 26 Feb 88 22:21:46 GMT >>From: fsimmons@ub.d.umn.edu (Frank Simmons) >>Organization: U. of Minnesota-Duluth, Computer Center >>Subject: VMS KERMIT >>Message-Id: <228@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU> >>Sender: info-vax-request@kl.sri.com >>To: info-vax@kl.sri.com >> >> >> Can VMS KERMIT run with an initialization file? IF so what is it called and >> where should it be located? >> > > VMS KERMIT (otherwise known as KERMIT-32) does not automatically take an > initialization file, as far as I remember. However, you can use the TAKE > command (as in TAKE filename.type ) to process a personalized initialization > sequence. Since KERMIT-32 is no longer being refined, you may wish to move > over to C-KERMIT 4E(070), dated 29 Jan 88, which does operate under VMS and > which will automatically process the initialization file sys$login:KERMIT.INI > upon entry. You can obtain the source files for C-KERMIT 4E(070) from Columbia > University (internet host cu20b.columbia.edu, anonymous login, files are > in K2:), or I can send you a VMS_SHAR set of the sources. > > LT Stuart L Labovitz > USAF Avionics Laboratory > arpa: Labovitz%Etd2.decnet@Afwal-aaa.arpa > > Minds of the strongest and most active powers fall below mediocrity and > labor without effect, if confined to uncongenial pursuits. And it is > thence to be inferred, that the results of human exertion may be > immensely increased by diversifying its objects. > ----- Alexander Hamilton > ------
u3369429@ucsvc.dn.mu.oz (Michael Bednarek) (03/08/88)
Sorry for my previous posting re:"VMS KERMIT"subject. VMS-NETNEWS teething ... In article <8803061034.AA29037@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, labovitz%etd1.DECnet@AFWAL-AAA.ARPA ("ETD1::LABOVITZ") writes: [ this came from article <228@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU> ] >> Can VMS KERMIT run with an initialization file? IF so what is it called and >> where should it be located? > > VMS KERMIT (otherwise known as KERMIT-32) does not automatically take an > initialization file, as far as I remember. Wrong. and in <880302023027.1a4c@CitHex.Caltech.Edu> carl@CITHEX.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) wrote: >VMS Kermit-32 version 3.1.066 looks for the file VMSKERMIT.INI in your >current default directory for initialization. Almost. Here is the relevant part from KERMIT.BLI: ============================================================================== ! 3.1.056 By: Nick Bush On: 28-August-1984 ! Add a TAKE (or @) command. Also perform an initialization ! file on startup. This file is either VMSKERMIT.INI or ! whatever file is pointed to by the logical name VMSKERMIT. ============================================================================== This is -- as far as I know -- nowhere else documented. "May the Source (even if it's in BLISS) be with you" -- Michael Bednarek, Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research (IAESR) // Melbourne University,Parkville 3052, AUSTRALIA, Phone:+61 3 344 5744 \X/ Domain:u3369429@{murdu.oz.au | ucsvc.dn.mu.oz.au} | mb@munnari.oz.au "bang":...UUNET!munnari!murdu!u3369429 PSI%23343000301::U3369429 "POST NO BILLS."
terry@wsccs.UUCP (terry) (03/12/88)
In article <48@ucsvc.dn.mu.oz>, Michael Bednarek writes: > Sorry for my previous posting re:"VMS KERMIT"subject. VMS-NETNEWS teething ... Send us a copy or info on where to get a copy. It can teethe here, too. This will save dave and val hours porting. > "May the Source (even if it's in BLISS) be with you" BLISS is ignorance. ;-) | Terry Lambert UUCP: ...!decvax!utah-cs!century!terry | | @ Century Software or : ...utah-cs!uplherc!sp7040!obie!wsccs!terry | | SLC, Utah | | These opinions are not my companies, but if you find them | | useful, send a $20.00 donation to Brisbane Australia... | | 'There are monkey boys in the facility. Do not be alarmed; you are secure' |