dagg@Csa2.LBL.GOV (Darren Griffiths) (04/19/88)
This is a follow up to my recent article. In the article I talked about problems with the latest security patch from DEC. In summary the problems were caused by a fix to the TTDRIVER that helped stopp trojan horse programs. The fix, in some situations also broke the VAX Workstation Software, stopping uses from autologging into a window. Other things that were broken include programs like PHOTO that use psuedo-terminal drivers to act as session loggers. It seems that some of the programs that use psuedo-terminal drivers will have to be modified before they will be able to work again. This is unfortunate, but it is necessary to provide extra security on VMS systems. I believe DEC is planning to send out a letter describing these problems. The problems with workstation software being broken can easily be fixed. Patches to WTDRIVER.EXE and UISBG.EXE were distributed with the security update, when these patches are installed the workstation software will work as advertised with a secure TTDRIVER. The problem is that the procedure that checks to see if the workstation has VWS installed has a bug in it, and it sometimes reports that the workstation software isn't installed when it is. If this happens the good software won't be installed and things will be broken. The easy fix is to look in the install save set for four images: WTDRIVER031.EXE;1 WTDRIVER032.EXE;1 UISBG031.EXE;8 UISBG032.EXE;1 Take the oens appropiate for your versions and place them in SYS$SYSTEM:WTDRIVER.EXE and SYS$SYSTEM:UISBG.EXE, that should fix things up. I do encourage everyone to install these security fixes. They ARE important and they do help protect your system. DEC has been getting a lot of flames regarding their policy towards security issues, I am not sure that all of these flames are deserved. DEC engineers have spent a lot of time helping find this problem, and they have always been eager to look for problems and suggest solutions. Before we go and flame DEC, why not spend some time flaming the people (pond-scum?) who are trying to break into systems and wasting valuable time and resources. It is people like this who are the true cause of the problem, not companies like DEC. I have heard comments recently that suggest it is the computer managers responsibility to maintain a secure environment for the users. While this is true it can only be taken so far. It is reasonable to ask home owners to lock their front door when they leave, it is not reasonable to ask them to hire security guards and install a $10,000 alarm system. At the same time it is reasonable to ask computer managers to have a secure environment, it is not reasonable to ask them to spend a good part of their life tracking down idiots who persist on penetrating systems, particularly when the majority of these systems have no useful or interesting information online. --darren DAGG@LBL.GOV -------