[comp.os.vms] 3rd party disk drive query

G.FUSSELL@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU (Carl Fussell) (05/09/88)

 My appologies if you have seen this but since I sent this out a
 few days ago and haven't seen it come back over Info-VAX, I 
 thought I'd try it again...
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 I was hoping that the experience of readers of this list might be
 able to help us...

 Our site needs to add some additional disk storage to our system.
 Presently, all our existing drives are vanilla DEC (predominently
 RA81 drives hanging off an HSC50).  We are thinking about trying
 non-Dec drives for the first time.  We'll be making a choice in
 about a week and a half and DEC is slipping daily...

 Does anyone have any experience, comments, or advice on alternative
 vendors we might look at for drives in the 1/2GB - 1GB  capacity
 range?   In particular, we are looking at SI and Emulex but comments
 on others would be welcome and appreciated.  Are non-Dec solutions
 reliable?  How's the performance?  Are there maintenance problems
 (all our current hardware is under Dec service agreements)?  When
 problems do arise, does a lot of "finger pointing" occur?  An so on...

 Thanx in advance for any help.  (if there is an interest, I would
 be happy to either post results or summarize it)

 Carl Fussell
 Santa Clara Univ
 G.FUSSELL@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
 CARL@SCU.BITNET   
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kenw%noah.arc.CDN@ean.ubc.ca (Ken Wallewein) (05/16/88)

  We use a CDC XMD-II on our system, with a Sigma controller. Digital Review 
uses the same drive with a Dilog controller. An Emulex controller is also 
available.

  The drive is very nice:
	850 Mb unformatted
	about 700 formatted
	16 ms. _average_ seek time
	1 Mb on-board cache on the controller
	
  I've seen our I/O rate hit 120 on this drive on a uVAXII. Try THAT on any
DEC drive you can find. And right now I can get one for $9000 CDN. Works good, 
lasts long time. 

  On the other hand, we've had some interesting problems with what appears to
be signal reflection on the backplace, recently. Looks like the Sigma
controller, best guess, but Sigma's been kinda slow in helping to find out for
sure. I posted a message about it during the latest Great News Blackout - did
anybody see it? 

/kenw

pstevens@pioneer.arpa (Paul Stevens RCE Sterling) (05/19/88)

In article <1501*kenw@noah.arc.cdn> you write:
>
>  We use a CDC XMD-II on our system, with a Sigma controller. Digital Review 
>uses the same drive with a Dilog controller. An Emulex controller is also 
>available.
>
I also support a uVAX system here with the same drives but with the Dilog
controller.  We had no problems with the controller and bus terminations,
but we did have problems with our Sigma expansion cabinet.  It seems they
forgot to mention that you have to remove some resistors in the BA23
when adding their cabinet as an expansion box.

I also have good experience with the XMD, we bought it to use in a
high speed data acquistion environment and our intial tests show
we'll be able to perform sustained rates of >1 Mbyte/sec to disk using
optimized writing techniques.

I don't think of this so much as a plug for CDC but as a plug for
using the SMD-E interface. Or at least anything *BUT* ST506/RDxx
toys.



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