ZSYJKAA@WYOCDC1.BITNET (Jim Kirkpatrick 307 766-5303) (06/11/88)
I was just told by our network person to beware INSTALLing anything on our cluster or modifying SYSTARTUP.COM because Wollongong claims their software must be INSTALLed last! HUH? I.E. they say if you INSTALL anything after their stuff, the Wollongong software may break. What the blankety-blank are they doing? This really puts a crimp in any work the rest of us have to do as we either must not do any INSTALLs, or we must modify SYSTARTUP.COM and reboot! (I'd guess there are other solutions that some of you can think of) We are still trying to squeeze out of them a good explanation of why this is so; they seem to think it's just a simple product requirement, and not a problem. What if we end up with TWO such products that must be installed last? Do they think they're unique in the universe?? Grr. I'd like to hear from anybody who has any information on this, such as speculation of why their product has this requirement, what they should have done to get around it, what I can do to get around it, and so on.
iglesias@orion.cf.uci.EDU (Mike Iglesias) (06/15/88)
That's not true. I INSTALL lots of stuff after I start WIN/TCP. The only restriction I know of with WIN/TCP is that if you're using the shared ethernet option (both DECnet and WIN/TCP using the same ethernet interface) you have to start DECnet first since it changes the hardware ethernet address of the system. This restriction is true of any TCP/IP product that I've seen (for example, the CMU TCP/IP). Mike Iglesias University of California, Irvine
mhg@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA (Mark H. Granoff) (06/16/88)
>I was just told by our network person to beware INSTALLing anything on >our cluster or modifying SYSTARTUP.COM because Wollongong claims their >software must be INSTALLed last! HUH? I.E. they say if you INSTALL >anything after their stuff, the Wollongong software may break. What the >blankety-blank are they doing? This really puts a crimp in any work the >rest of us have to do as we either must not do any INSTALLs, or we must >modify SYSTARTUP.COM and reboot! (I'd guess there are other solutions >that some of you can think of) > >We are still trying to squeeze out of them a good explanation of why this >is so; they seem to think it's just a simple product requirement, and >not a problem. What if we end up with TWO such products that must be >installed last? Do they think they're unique in the universe?? Grr. > >I'd like to hear from anybody who has any information on this, such as >speculation of why their product has this requirement, what they should >have done to get around it, what I can do to get around it, and so on. We have installed Wollongong's TCP/IP on our VAXcluster (8700, 8600, 785) and on MicroVAX II's. I have not heard that it has to be installed last; that's kind of rediculous. There are a couple of things though, that you should know (if you are not already aware of them). First, the SYSGEN parameter INTSTK (or something like that) must be increased (to two I think). If you don't, your machine will crash. Also, if you are running DECnet, and your TCP/IP will be using its own Ethernet device, you must change all the SYSGEN AUTOCONFIGURE commands to exclude the Ethernet device you want to use for TCP/IP. Otherwise, DECnet will find both/all of them and use them. The AUTOCONFIGURE commands are in SYSTARTUP.COM or STARTUP.COM (I'm not sure) and in SYCONFIG.COM. There may be other things too; I'm not the local expert but I've helped out with installations. Hope this helps. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mark H. Granoff Member of the Technical Staff | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | USMAIL: The MITRE Corporation | ARPAnet: mhg @ mitre-bedford.ARPA | | Burlington Rd. | UUCP : linus!mbunix!mhg | | M/S B015 |-----------------------------------| | Bedford, MA 01730 | A T & T: (617) 271 - 7506 | +--------------------------- Disclaimer -----------------------------+ | The views expressed herein are my own and do not necessarily | | reflect those of my employer. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+