nagy%warner.hepnet@LBL.GOV (Frank J. Nagy, VAX Wizard & Guru) (07/26/88)
> Has anyone heard any rumours about an Internals manual for VMS V5.0?
You gotta be kidding! ... Remember that the V3 Internals book came out
just before VMS V4, now the V4 Internals book comes out just before V5...
Can you finish the progression? :-)
Sorry to be so sarcastic (especially since there is lots of good and
useful information in the Internals book, even 1 version behind as it
is), but I'm beginning to wonder if there will *ever* be another edition
of the Internals book. I wonder this since the "New Digital" (read
lots of ex-IBM sales/marketing people?) seems to be getting ever more
restrictive of technical information.
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Yes, I've heard about the V5.0 internals manual, but like the V4.x manual it will not be here for a while.
woods@blia.BLI.COM (Michael Nowacki) (08/03/88)
In article <880725104043.29e01d44@LBL.Gov> nagy%warner.hepnet@LBL.GOV (Frank J. Nagy, VAX Wizard & Guru) writes: >> Has anyone heard any rumours about an Internals manual for VMS V5.0? > >You gotta be kidding! ... Remember that the V3 Internals book came out >just before VMS V4, now the V4 Internals book comes out just before V5... >Can you finish the progression? :-) > >Sorry to be so sarcastic (especially since there is lots of good and >useful information in the Internals book, even 1 version behind as it >is), but I'm beginning to wonder if there will *ever* be another edition >of the Internals book. I wonder this since the "New Digital" (read >lots of ex-IBM sales/marketing people?) seems to be getting ever more >restrictive of technical information. > I pressed Ruth Goldenberg on this issue (politely) at Anaheim. I don't expect she appreciated this sort of thing considering she had just worked her butt off getting 4.4 out. She also probably knows better than to get embroiled in this. Anyway, she did not assert that DEC was then planning a followup; let on that the people who manage vms and the docu- mentation do not necessarily feel it is important to publish VIDS; clearly they do not consider it part of the formal documantation of vms. Her book was reverse engineered: she had to look at code (constantly being updated by 200+ bodies) to write it, and got no mandated assistance from the vms project. I beleive the first edition was written by Kenah because he was able to do so, not because DEC management wanted it. Finally, Frank, I would expect that DEC sees most of their future profit coming from people that would never use the meatiest parts of the big manual set, let alone VIDS. They are looking more and more like IBM all the time, and probably for the reason that there is more profit to me made in that market than system developers. IBM, GM, and Bank of America are examples of the richest companies not selling the best product. I'd say DEC wants to be rich... -- |\ /| | \/ | _|ike |_ uucp: ...!ucbvax!mtxinu!blia!woods