[net.dcom] Request for Information on Standards Documents/Diagnostic Modems

jackson@ttidcb.UUCP (Dick Jackson) (11/14/85)

Fellow D-commers, I humbly request your assistance. I would really appreciate
info on the following subjects:

1. Contact at IEEE for asking questions about, and ordering, standards
documents (802 committee stuff).

2. Source for ordering standards document on Group 3 facsimile (who the
devil adminsters this one?)

3. Any modem vendors besides IBM who make modems which report diagnostic
information through the RS-232 interface? I.e. so you can write network
control software in your host.

Many thanks in advance,

Dick Jackson

dennis@rlgvax.UUCP (Dennis Bednar) (11/15/85)

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> Fellow D-commers, I humbly request your assistance. I would really appreciate
> info on the following subjects:
> 
> 1. Contact at IEEE for asking questions about, and ordering, standards
> documents (802 committee stuff).
> 

I don't have the name of IEEE contact, but I have some related news
which fellow dcom'ers might find interesting.

IEEE has published the IEEE 802.x (where x = 1 to 5, I think)
standards in a series of books, available from IEEE.

Personally, the one book which I want to read most, is the
Token Bus spec, because of the fact that a distributed algorithm
is needed to pass the token.  I would like to learn more about
the startup algorithm which is responsible for deciding which
node on the LAN gets to hold the token first.

Also, I remember about 2 years ago reading some articles that debated
which was better: CSMA/CD or token-bus?  The battle was between
non-deterministic (csma/cd) and deterministic (token-bus).
The claim was that token-bus is superior to csma/cd when there is
a lot of traffic on your LAN, because the law of probabilities
may be against your LAN-node being able to send your packet out
over the LAN to another LAN-node.

I personally wonder how well token-bus would work in real life,
if there was a heavy load on the LAN, when a new LAN-node suddenly
was turned on, and wanted to have itself admitted to the "logical
ring".  This next idea may not be well-formulated, but is is possible
that the powered on LAN-nodes admission to the "logical ring" will be
non-deterministic? That is, is there a drawback that
you cannot predict how long it will take in the worst case, for
the new LAN-node to get the token in the first place????
I cannot answer this question, because it depends on how the
startup initialization is done in the first place.

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Dennis Bednar	Computer Consoles Inc.	Reston VA	703-648-3300
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stanwyck@druxu.UUCP (StanwyckDA) (11/15/85)

> 2. Source for ordering standards document on Group 3 facsimile (who the
> devil adminsters this one?)
> 
> Dick Jackson

Group 3 Fax is standardized by CCITT in Recommendation T.4.

Recommendation of the CCITT can be ordered directly from the International
Telecommunications Union (Geneva, Switzerland) if you have a Swiss Franc
currency device, or much more easily (for US locations) from the U.S.
licensee - Omnicom, Inc.

Omnicom's address, etc:  (source for all the 1984 CCITT Red Books)
      (per ad in Oct. 85 Data Communications Magazine)

	Omnicom, Inc.
	501 Church St. N.E. Suite 206
	Vienna, VA 22180
	(703) 281-1135

Red Books are available in English, French, or Spanish.
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