ari@ursa.UUCP (Ari Rabinowitz) (08/16/90)
I am having a great deal of difficulty with the Motif window manager supplied by DEC for VMS. I was wondering if it is me, or MWM.EXE. 1) Although I have keyBoardFocusPolicy set to explicit, when I select a DECTERM window, or almost any other DECWINDOWS client, (except LSE), the pointer must be in the window (not on the border) for the window to get keyboard focus. The 'Active' border colors show that the window is active, but keystrokes just go into the bit bucket. I find this particularly dangerous for my users, who constantly have people putting papers on their desks and accidently moving their mice. For this reason, I am refusing to let my users use mwm, although management wants them to for standardization reasons. 2) I would like to disable the f.kill function for DECTERMS, since closing one terminal seems to kill the terminal emulator job, effectively killing all of the existing terminal sessions. I have tried many variations of clientFunctions: -close with no success. Could someone tell me what, if anything will work for this. Also, wMenuButtonClick2: false does not seem to work for me. 3) Dec does not seem to have implemented the f.exec function for VMS, which is something that I and my users would find to be of great value. Does it work in some way I haven't found, or is it really not implemented? Any help with all of this would be greatly appreciated. Ari -- Ari Rabinowitz ari%ursa@ctr.columbia.edu WorkStation Administrator ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!ari Bear Stearns
mcmahon@tgv.com (John McMahon) (08/17/90)
In article <6405@ursa.UUCP>, ari@ursa.UUCP (Ari Rabinowitz) writes...
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:I am having a great deal of difficulty with the Motif window manager
:supplied by DEC for VMS. I was wondering if it is me, or MWM.EXE.
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:Ari Rabinowitz ari%ursa@ctr.columbia.edu
Hmm... I didn't know DEC was shipping MWM (or Motif anything) for VMS. Can
someone provide details on availability, features, part numbers, etc ?
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In article <6405@ursa.UUCP> ari@ursa.UUCP (Ari Rabinowitz) writes: > I am having a great deal of difficulty with the Motif window manager > supplied by DEC for VMS. I was wondering if it is me, or MWM.EXE. > 1) Although I have keyBoardFocusPolicy set to explicit, when I select a > DECTERM window, or almost any other DECWINDOWS client, (except LSE), > the pointer must be in the window (not on the border) for the window > to get keyboard focus. The 'Active' border colors show that the window > is active, but keystrokes just go into the bit bucket. > ... You're right. This happens under Ultrix also. This may be a bug with globally active windows. > 2) I would like to disable the f.kill function for DECTERMS, since closing > one terminal seems to kill the terminal emulator job, effectively killing > all of the existing terminal sessions. I have tried many variations of > clientFunctions: -close > with no success. Could someone tell me what, if anything will work for > this. Also, wMenuButtonClick2: false does not seem to work for me. This is a bug that has been fixed in Mwm 1.0.3. I don't know if DEC has upgraded their VMS version of mwm. If they have, then they have this fix. The wMenuButtonClick2 resource works for me (on Ultrix). > 3) Dec does not seem to have implemented the f.exec function for VMS, > which is something that I and my users would find to be of great value. > Does it work in some way I haven't found, or is it really not implemented? Sound extremely useful to me too. > Ari -- = Michael K. Yee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- = OPEN Software Foundation -- 11 Cambridge Center -- Cambridge, MA 02142 = Phone: 617-621-8831 Email: yee@osf.org, uunet!osf.org!yee = "I can't give you brains, but I can give you a diploma." -- The Wizard of OZ
murphy@ufp.dco.dec.com (Rick Murphy) (08/21/90)
Sorry to followup the followup, but the original question appears to have expired on my news server.. In article <YEE.90Aug20150558@pmin27.osf.org>, yee@osf.org (Michael K. Yee) writes: |> In article <6405@ursa.UUCP> ari@ursa.UUCP (Ari Rabinowitz) writes: |> > I am having a great deal of difficulty with the Motif window manager |> > supplied by DEC for VMS. I was wondering if it is me, or MWM.EXE. |> |> > 1) Although I have keyBoardFocusPolicy set to explicit, when I select a |> > DECTERM window, or almost any other DECWINDOWS client, (except LSE), |> > the pointer must be in the window (not on the border) for the window |> > to get keyboard focus. The 'Active' border colors show that the window |> > is active, but keystrokes just go into the bit bucket. |> > ... |> You're right. This happens under Ultrix also. This may be a bug |> with globally active windows. I'm not having this problem, but I use 'pointer' keyboardFocusPolicy. |> |> > 2) I would like to disable the f.kill function for DECTERMS, since closing |> > one terminal seems to kill the terminal emulator job, effectively killing |> > all of the existing terminal sessions. I have tried many variations of |> > clientFunctions: -close |> > with no success. Could someone tell me what, if anything will work for |> > this. Also, wMenuButtonClick2: false does not seem to work for me. |> |> This is a bug that has been fixed in Mwm 1.0.3. I don't know if DEC |> has upgraded their VMS version of mwm. If they have, then they have |> this fix. The wMenuButtonClick2 resource works for me (on Ultrix). Mwm.wMenuButtonClick2: false works for me, too. |> |> > 3) Dec does not seem to have implemented the f.exec function for VMS, |> > which is something that I and my users would find to be of great value. |> > Does it work in some way I haven't found, or is it really not implemented? |> It's not implemented; Basically since the session manager starts the window manager without a CLI. There's nothing available to run programs. (spawn won't work..). Send me mail if you want to have a look at my DECW$XDEFAULTS. -Rick -- Rick Murphy, WA1SPT/4 Digital Customer Center, Landover, MD Domain: murphy@ufp.dco.dec.com -or- murphy@ufp.enet.dec.com Bang: decwrl!ufp.enet!murphy Ding: (301) 306-2985 Disclaimer: This nonsense came from an AI program written in TECO. Ignore it.
mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang) (08/21/90)
In article <6405@ursa.UUCP> ari@ursa.UUCP (Ari Rabinowitz) writes: > 1) Although I have keyBoardFocusPolicy set to explicit, when I select a > DECTERM window, or almost any other DECWINDOWS client, (except LSE), > the pointer must be in the window (not on the border) for the window > to get keyboard focus. The 'Active' border colors show that the window > is active, but keystrokes just go into the bit bucket. In article <YEE.90Aug20150558@pmin27.osf.org>, yee@osf.org (Michael K. Yee) writes: |> You're right. This happens under Ultrix also. This may be a bug |> with globally active windows. Exactly. Although DECwindows applications behave as "globally active" clients as per the ICCCM, they use a pre-ICCCM protocol that only DEC's window manager understands. Therefore, MWM doesn't realize that they're globally active. DEC will probably release a new version of MWM in the future that will correctly recognize old DECwindows clients and handle them accordingly. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Yang Silicon Graphics, Inc. mikey@sgi.com 415/335-1786
adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy) (08/21/90)
In article <6405@ursa.UUCP> ari@ursa.UUCP (Ari Rabinowitz) writes: > I am having a great deal of difficulty with the Motif window manager > supplied by DEC for VMS. I was wondering if it is me, or MWM.EXE. I'm experiencing a minor annoyance, too. The Close option in the menu you get when you click the upper left corner of the window border seems to have no effect on any applications (both DECwindows and Motif). No error message, nothing. Do I have something configured incorrectly? Aid. (adrian@gonzo.mti.com)