[unix-pc.general] Request opinions on Amiga as front end to 3b1

erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) (01/11/88)

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I'm interested in the Amiga, and I always have been.  I recently
acquired a 3b1/67meg/EIA-RAM expansion/DOS-73 board, and am very
happy with it except for it's horrible graphics and lack of internal
sound (other than feeeeeeeeeeee).

What I want is full-blown graphics/sound with multi-tasking, k&r c,
and lotsa development goodies.  I have the latter under control,
3b1's w/ full devlopment set are nice.

My question:
Should I
1. Trade my system for a full blown A2000 w/ hard drive (I could
   live w/o the dos bridge very easily, as I don't use my DOS-73 board now)
   and a lot of other goodies, or:
2. Get an Amiga 500 w/ Tektronics or some other emulation (writing my
   own graphics driver isn't out of the question, as I have the VDI
   drivers set) and use it as a front end box for the 3b1, or
3. Sell everything now before my machine's value drops drastically
   and hope that a good 680{2,3}0 box will come out this quarter with
   everything I ever wanted in a computer :-)?

Please post answers to the net, I think this information could be
of use to anybody with a graphics weak UNIX system who is interested
in expanding to a nice graphics box (cheaply).  I'd also like to hear
from Peter da Silva and all other Amiga hacks that have some UNIX
experience as to how hard/easy using an Amiga as front end to a
UNIX box would be.
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vanam@pttesac.UUCP (Marnix van Ammers) (01/14/88)

In article <289@flatline.UUCP> erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) writes:
>I'm interested in the Amiga, and I always have been.  I recently
>acquired a 3b1/67meg/EIA-RAM expansion/DOS-73 board, and am very
>happy with it except for it's horrible graphics and lack of internal
>sound (other than feeeeeeeeeeee).
>
>My question:
>Should I
[list of options deleted]

I've got an A1000 and a 3B1.  I really like having them
both.  Since you don't particularly want the A2000 bridge
card, there's no point in getting an A2000.  You'd lose
that 3B1 with it's powerful developmental tools.

What I suggest you do is look for a used Amiga 1000.  There
should be lots of A1000s out there because of the Commodore
trade in deal (an A1000 +$1000 for an A2000).  You can
probably get an A1000 at a very good price.

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farren@gethen.UUCP (Michael J. Farren) (01/14/88)

In article <289@flatline.UUCP> erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) writes:
>
>What I want is full-blown graphics/sound with multi-tasking, k&r c,
>and lotsa development goodies.  I have the latter under control,
>3b1's w/ full devlopment set are nice.

Whether or not you could do what you want depends very highly on what,
exactly, you want, something you don't state very clearly in your 
message.

If you only wanted a graphics terminal for your Unix system, I see
no reason an Amiga 500 with a good Tek emulator couldn't work (although
there isn't much support on the 3b1 for graphics).

If you wanted a Unix box with Amiga level graphics and sound, then
you are pretty well out of luck.  While this might be possible using
a 3b1 and an Amiga running concurrently, it would require massive
changes (or, at least, massive software) to both machines.  Somehow,
I doubt that you want to rewrite both the Unix kernel and Amiga's
Exec.  One possibility might be the A2000 with the 68020 board and
System V, but this is still in the category of vaporware.

If you were willing to compromise a little bit on your development
environment, the Amiga alone might suffice.  While it isn't Unix,
the OS on the Amiga is pretty good in its own right.  Or, you could
use all of the facilities on the 3b1 for development up to the actual
compiling and linking, then shove the source files over to the Amiga
via the serial ports, and compile and link there.  Or, maybe, if
somebody gets real ambitious, they could write a linker/loader that
would take the COFF files produced by the 3b1 compiler and link
them into a real live Amiga executable.

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