[unix-pc.general] Fan reversal on 3b1/7300

erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) (02/17/88)

Problem:  I live in an old, dusty house w/o central air or heat (eg: no
filtering for the air).  Add to that burning incense and stir frying
of various plants and animals. Lots of dust.  Huge amounts of dust.
All this gets sucked through my 3b1.  Dust collects on the floppy drive
latch, etc.  Generally nasty for everything involved.

Solution (of a sort):  Reverse the fan and add a easily removeable filter.
We had a Northstar and a Motorola S8000 at my old job, and they both
had filtered air blown through them.   Why not 3b1's and PC's?  My
guess was the manus didn't think owners would remember to clean the filters
once a week, or something like that...

Anybody tried this (and know an easy way to do it including Radio
Shack part #'s :-) ) / see any problems with doing this?
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motteler@umbc3.UMD.EDU (Howard E. Motteler) (02/19/88)

In article <409@flatline.UUCP>, erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) writes:
> 
> Problem:  I live in an old, dusty house ... [much dust ommitted]
> Solution (of a sort):  Reverse the fan and add a easily removeable filter.
> Anybody tried this (and know an easy way to do it including Radio
> Shack part #'s :-) ) / see any problems with doing this?

A scrap of pantyhose stretched and taped over an intake grill makes an
adequate filter for coarser types of particles, cat hair, etc.  I ran
an old kaypro II with an added fan and this sort of filter for years.
Every month or so you need to clean it off or just throw it away.  The
advantage is very little air resistance and cheapness.  The
disadvantage is that it doesn't stop the finer particles or smoke.
(You can zap these with an ionizer, but don't set it too near your
crt, or all those micron sized particles will migrate to your nice,
positive screen.)

I played around with reversing the fan in my 3b1.  Just pop the fan(s)
out and flip it (them) to face the other way, and tape your "filter"
over the grille(s).  The power supply will run quite cool with the fan
breathing on it, but the front of the motherboard warms up a bit.
I ran this way for a couple of weeks with no ill effects, but finally
switched back.

You get less overall cooling when you do this.  Gas cools when it
expands, and warms when it is compressed.  In suction mode, air
expands and cools when it is sucked through little holes into the box,
while if you reverse the fan, you are compressing and warming air.
This effect may not have been the sole cause of the exess warming of
the mother board (warm air wants to rise, and you will be blowing it
down, etc.), but reduced cooling was noticable.  I changed back
after I got tired of warm air blowing over my fingers.

						Howard Motteler

robert@mcco.UUCP (Robert R. Andrews) (02/24/88)

In article <804@umbc3.UMD.EDU> motteler@umbc3.UMD.EDU (Howard E. Motteler) writes:
>In article <409@flatline.UUCP>, erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) writes:
>> 
>> Problem:  I live in an old, dusty house ... [much dust ommitted]
>> Solution (of a sort):  Reverse the fan and add a easily removeable filter.
>> Anybody tried this (and know an easy way to do it including Radio
>> Shack part #'s :-) ) / see any problems with doing this?
>
>A scrap of pantyhose stretched and taped over an intake grill makes an
>adequate filter for coarser types of particles, cat hair, etc.  I ran

[stuff about pantyhose and reversed fans removed]

>the mother board (warm air wants to rise, and you will be blowing it
>down, etc.), but reduced cooling was noticable.  I changed back
>after I got tired of warm air blowing over my fingers.
>
>						Howard Motteler

I used to work on a system that the keyboard was integrated with the monitor
and keyboard.  A big graphics station.  It had positive air pressure cooling.
The biggest problem was the air coming out of the keyboard.  Caused chapped
hands and tearing in your eyes.  We could only work at this system for about
an hour before you had to go get some moisturizer and rest the eyes.  Nothing
as fun as typing with dry, cracked fingers.  Finally solved by putting a 
separate negative pressure fan in the bottom of the keyboard.

Some boards are designed so that the most heat sensitive parts are first
cooled.  Changing the air flow could mess this completely.  Heat is a chips
worst enemy.  Static is second.  I think it best to assume the designer had
to think about that.  But my experience only not the designers.  Any comments
AT&T?

						Robert Andrews