daveb@llama.rtech.UUCP (It takes a clear mind to make it) (05/16/88)
I am looking for some way to get SVR3ish STREAMS or sockets on my 7300.
I had heard that either the Starlan software or the TCP/IP software in
fact included one or the other beneath the covers, and I'd be willing to
pay real money for one of them if this were true.
The questions are, A) what is underneath these packages? B) does it
support poll() or select()? C) can you load the drivers/kernel hacks
necessary without theppresence of a controller card? C) does this
stream module
Thanks,
-dB
{amdahl, cpsc6a, mtxinu, sun, hoptoad}!rtech!daveb daveb@rtech.uucplenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) (05/18/88)
In article <2090@rtech.UUCP> daveb@rtecn.UUCP writes: |> |>I am looking for some way to get SVR3ish STREAMS or sockets on my 7300. |>I had heard that either the Starlan software or the TCP/IP software in |>fact included one or the other beneath the covers, and I'd be willing to |>pay real money for one of them if this were true. |> ... You've brought up a very interesting point. Can someone just buy the software that puts the "hooks" in the operating system to provide sockets, STREAMS, and RFS? It seems like the /usr/include/sys/errno.h file has the errors already there to support the function calls. Following excerpt from /usr/include/sys/errno.h (3.51) ... /* Errors from 4.2 BSD picked up to support sockets */ /* Note that the numbers are different from 4.2 numbering */ /* non-blocking and interrupt i/o */ #define EWOULDBLOCK 226 /* Operation would block */ #define EINPROGRESS 227 /* Operation now in progress */ #define EALREADY 228 /* Operation already in progress */ /* ipc/network software */ /* argument errors */ #define ENOTSOCK 229 /* Socket operation on non-socket */ #define EDESTADDRREQ 230 /* Destination address required */ #define EMSGSIZE 231 /* Message too long */ #define EPROTOTYPE 232 /* Protocol wrong type for socket */ #define EPROTONOSUPPORT 233 /* Protocol not supported */ #define ESOCKTNOSUPPORT 234 /* Socket type not supported */ ... /* operational errors */ #define ENETDOWN 240 /* Network is down */ #define ENETUNREACH 241 /* Network is unreachable */ ... #define ETIMEDOUT 250 /* Connection timed out */ #define ECONNREFUSED 251 /* Connection refused */ /* should be rearranged */ #define EHOSTDOWN 252 /* Host is down */ #define EHOSTUNREACH 253 /* No route to host */ #define ENOPROTOOPT 254 /* Protocol not available */ -Lenny -- US MAIL : Lenny Tropiano, ICUS Computer Group IIIII CCC U U SSS PO Box 1 I C U U S Islip Terrace, New York 11752 I C U U SS PHONE : (516) 968-8576 [H] (516) 582-5525 [W] I C U U S TELEX : 154232428 [ICUS] IIIII CCC UUU SSS AT&T MAIL: ...attmail!icus!lenny UUCP : ...{mtune, ihnp4, boulder, talcott, sbcs, bc-cis}!icus!lenny
root@rocky.cs.wisc.edu.CS.WISC.EDU (Charlie Root) (05/19/88)
I have worked with both the STARLAN and ETHERNET cards --- and BOTH will NOT WORK IF THE CONTROLLER IS NOT IN THE COMPUTER. This is due to the device drivers also doing socket handling. I.E. The socket code is not independant of the controller driver. HOWEVER, both cards will run WITHOUT having the controller hooked up to other hosts. Since the driver han have a conversation with the controller card, programs will work. Jonathan Sadler Computing Systems Lab (CSL) Unversity of Wisconsin - Madison
mmengel@cuuxb.ATT.COM (~XT4103000~Marc Mengel~C25~G25~6184~) (05/19/88)
In article <365@icus.UUCP> lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) writes: >In article <2090@rtech.UUCP> daveb@rtecn.UUCP writes: >|> >|>I am looking for some way to get SVR3ish STREAMS or sockets on my 7300. >|>I had heard that either the Starlan software or the TCP/IP software in >|>fact included one or the other beneath the covers, and I'd be willing to >|>pay real money for one of them if this were true. >|> >... >You've brought up a very interesting point. Can someone just buy the >software that puts the "hooks" in the operating system to provide sockets, >STREAMS, and RFS? It seems like the /usr/include/sys/errno.h file has >the errors already there to support the function calls. Well, yes and no. What Starlan has in it is a pre-SysVr3.0 version of streams (known as "B+" streams) which is used mainly inside the driver. The interface to streams is not the standard system call interface, but is actually done via ioctl() calls to the starlan driver. TCP/IP for the 7300 does not use streams, rather the Wollongong implementation of BSD sockets, similarly done through ioctl() calls to the driver. The /usr/include/sys/*.h files have BSD-isms in them for two reasons, one to support Wollongong TCP/IP, and two because large portions of the Unix PC kernel are BSD 4.0 derived (the paging system, for example is purest BSD); however only the barest semblance of the Berkeley extensions remain in the code. So, in summary, you can get a reasonable semblance of streams with Starlan software, and a reasonable semblance of sockets with the TCP software (although adding your own streams modules to the Starlan software would be a challenging proposition, to say the least...) >-Lenny -- Marc Mengel attmail!mmengel ...!{moss|lll-crg|mtune|ihnp4}!cuuxb!mmengel