mml@magnus.UUCP (Mike Levin) (06/29/88)
It seems to me that crossposting has become the reason that a lot of folks have to read through a lot of stuff on the net. And that's OK, since there are some 200+ groups on usenet. But, this little sub-net, unix-pc.*, is entirely for folks who share a common interest. Therefore, when I see articles cross-posted within this very group, I find it annoying. I'm not trying to flame anybody, but merely to *humbly* suggest that (unless I'm wrong, and there are folks out there who read unix-pc.general but *not* unix-pc.uucp, etc) it would be more *elegant* to not cross-post *within* this little group. One other thought. Unix-pc.sources might be a good place to post sources, but it might be a good idea to see if somebody out there might want to actually moderate it. That way, we could have a central repository of information (somebody with the charisma of Rich $alz). Just a thought. Mike Levin -- +---+ P L E A S E R E S P O N D T O: +---+ * * * * * * * * * * | Mike Levin, Silent Radio Los Angeles (magnus)| I never thought I'd be LOOKING | Path {csun|kosman|mtune|srhqla}!magnus!levin | for something to say! ! ! +----------------------------------------------+------------------------------+
lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) (07/02/88)
In article <226@magnus.UUCP> mml@magnus.UUCP (Mike Levin) writes: |>It seems to me that crossposting has become the reason that a lot of |>folks have to read through a lot of stuff on the net. And that's OK, |>since there are some 200+ groups on usenet. But, this little sub-net, |>unix-pc.*, is entirely for folks who share a common interest. Therefore, |>when I see articles cross-posted within this very group, I find it annoying. |> |>I'm not trying to flame anybody, but merely to *humbly* suggest that (unless |>I'm wrong, and there are folks out there who read unix-pc.general but *not* |>unix-pc.uucp, etc) it would be more *elegant* to not cross-post *within* this |>little group. |> I agree about crossposting. There is no need to crosspost an article to unix-pc.general and then to unix-pc.uucp. If it's UUCP related it should only be unix-pc.general. Another thought is to expand the unix-pc group hiearchy to other than: unix-pc.general unix-pc.misc unix-pc.sources unix-pc.test unix-pc.uucp First of all get rid of unix-pc.misc (it's the same thing as unix-pc.general) and I've never ever seen anything posted to that group. It's might be more useful to get a few extra groups on specific unix-pc related topics: A few suggestions: unix-pc.software.att - Discussion of AT&T supported UNIX pc software unix-pc.software.3rdparty - Discussion of 3rd party software & vendors unix-pc.software.user - Discussion about user created software unix-pc.hardware.att - Discussion of AT&T hardware for the 3B1 unix-pc.hardware.3rdparty - Discussion of 3rd party hardware & vendors unix-pc.hardware.user - Discussion about user created hardware unix-pc.security - Discussion of the security issues on the 3B1 unix-pc.programming - Programming issues on the 3B1 (tam, curses, shared libraries, gnu-cc, etc.) unix-pc.os.bugs - Discussion on current operating system software bug issues related (system crashes, etc..) unix-pc.sources.d - Discussion on software posted to unix-pc.sources unix-pc.sources.bugs - Discussion on bugs and bug fixes to software posted to unix-pc.sources These are only suggestions.. want a vote on this... mail me and I'll compile the results. If you have your own suggestions, please add it. Keep the *VOTING* off the NET, please use E-mail. |>One other thought. Unix-pc.sources might be a good place to post sources, |>but it might be a good idea to see if somebody out there might want to |>actually moderate it. That way, we could have a central repository of |>information (somebody with the charisma of Rich $alz). Just a thought. |> Well this is good and bad. Basically one person is in charge of all the sources for the UNIX PC community, but this slows down the posting of sources. I really haven't seen *too* much non-related sources posted to unix-pc.sources. If the unix-pc community really wants moderated unix-pc.sources, I volunteer. (I don't know if I have Rich $alz charisma, but why not :->) Want to vote on this... E-mail me as well! Devoted UNIX PC-er, Lenny -- Paper-net: Lenny Tropiano | @-net: lenny@icus.UUCP ICUS Software Systems | !-net: ...att \ PO Box 1 | boulder \ Islip Terrace, NY 11752 | talcott !icus!lenny Vocal-net: (516) 582-5525 [work] | pacbell / (516) 968-8576 [home] | sbcs / Telex-net: 154232428 ICUS | Another-net: attmail!icus!lenny
clb) (07/03/88)
In article <408@icus.UUCP>, lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) writes: > If the unix-pc community really wants moderated unix-pc.sources, I volunteer. > (I don't know if I have Rich $alz charisma, but why not :->) > Delusions of granduer? The volume in these groups would be quite low if people didn't use them to belly-ache all the time. Useful stuff will easily fit into the existing groups. All the unix-pc.sources for the past year or so are in the "killer" archives. These are admin'd by wisner@killer and are readily available to everyone. Let's restrain the urge to pollute the net with further chatter until a real need arises. The groups that exist at present are adequate to meet the need. -- CLBrunow - KA5SOF Loci Products, POB 833846-131, Richardson, Texas 75083 clb@loci.uucp, loci@killer.uucp, loci@csccat.uucp
lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) (07/04/88)
In article <4675@killer.UUCP> loci@killer.UUCP (loci!clb) writes: |>In article <408@icus.UUCP>, lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) writes: |>> If the unix-pc community really wants moderated unix-pc.sources, I |>> volunteer. (I don't know if I have Rich $alz charisma, but why not :->) |>> |> Delusions of granduer? The volume in these groups would be |> quite low if people didn't use them to belly-ache all the |> time. Useful stuff will easily fit into the existing groups. *FLAME ON* You seem to always take things out of context, don't you. If you happen to look back on the article that I "replied" to it was in reference to possibily getting an *OFFICIAL* moderator for unix-pc.sources. While their might be various people archiving the sources groups, it usually is the job of the moderator. As far as delusions of granduer... I think I can talk for quite a number of unix-pc.* readers in saying that I have participated in many discussions, started many myself and I have an excellent reputation with the net-at-large. I was just offering my ongoing assistance in being the moderator to the unix-pc.sources group, if the majority wanted it! *FLAME OFF* |> |> All the unix-pc.sources for the past year or so are in the |> "killer" archives. These are admin'd by wisner@killer and |> are readily available to everyone. |> Yes, I know this. I was just offering a solution. If Bill want's to offer one himself, by all means!! |> Let's restrain the urge to pollute the net with further |> chatter until a real need arises. The groups that exist |> at present are adequate to meet the need. |> As for "polluting" the net, I certainly disagree with you. My posed solution wouldn't increase the net traffic, it would only categorize articles, and avoid lumping them into vague newsgroups like unix-pc.general. I might have gotten carried away with all the new groups, but maybe a few other specific groups would be a viable solution. If everyone wants to keep things the way they are, so be it... If there are more people out there who are thinking the same as I, speak up! Yes, I realize the traffic in unix-pc.* is low, and therefore go against my unix-pc.general reorganization. |> CLBrunow - KA5SOF |> Loci Products, POB 833846-131, Richardson, Texas 75083 |> clb@loci.uucp, loci@killer.uucp, loci@csccat.uucp -Lenny -- Paper-net: Lenny Tropiano | @-net: lenny@icus.UUCP ICUS Software Systems | !-net: ...att \ PO Box 1 | boulder \ Islip Terrace, NY 11752 | talcott !icus!lenny Vocal-net: (516) 582-5525 [work] | pacbell / (516) 968-8576 [home] | sbcs / Telex-net: 154232428 ICUS | Another-net: attmail!icus!lenny