[unix-pc.general] Where is my Calendar

jim_belgium_sanchez@cup.portal.com (07/07/88)

When I received my UNIX-PC(aka 7300) I got all the various warranty
cards and filled them with the expectation that I would receive
my personal calendar package as promised in the manual.  Well
here we are several months later and so far NOTHING.  What is the
matter ATT, are you guilty of false and misleading adds or what.
I know that I am NOT the only one with this problem since I have
mentioned it to others and they say the same thing.  So how about
it ATT are you going to come through eventually or are we just
going to have to do without a proper copy.  Now I know about the
hidden one in /etc/<something> and I am using it but it ain't the
right stuff(no preferences etc).
Jim Sanchez
Sytek, Inc.
1225 Charleston Rd
Mt. View CA 94043 (just in case ATT wants to send it to me)

mml@magnus.UUCP (Mike Levin) (07/10/88)

In article <7152@cup.portal.com> jim_belgium_sanchez@cup.portal.com writes:
>When I received my UNIX-PC(aka 7300) I got all the various warranty
>cards and filled them with the expectation that I would receive
>my personal calendar package as promised in the manual.  Well
>here we are several months later and so far NOTHING.  What is the

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	I think if you look, however, in a funny little place on the
	PC, you'll find *a* calendar program strangely reminiscent of
	what they are promising.  Look at /etc/fixes/pcal.  I installed
	that file on my system, and now I have (what I assume to be)
	the calendar program that AT&T promised to me for free.


					Mike Levin

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oscar@sunspot.UUCP (Oscar Von der Luhe) (07/15/88)

In article <7305@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com writes:

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> ...the "pcal" in the "hidden" directory doesn't have the Preferences stuff so
>that one can set and save the options.

Gee, works for me! I pulled my calendar out of "/etc/fixes", too. This was
discussed on the net some time ago, so here is what I recall I did:

1.	move "pcal" to /usr/bin, and "pcal.hlp" to /usr/lib/ua

2.	add this to /usr/lib/ua/Office:

	Name=Calendar
	Default = Open
	Open = EXEC -d /usr/bin/pcal -c
	Help = EXEC -d /usr/bin/uahelp -h /usr/lib/ua/pcal.hlp -t "Calendar"

(now this is it:)
3.	add this to /usr/lib/ua/Preferences:

	Name=Calendar
	Default = Open
	Open = EXEC -d /usr/bin/pcal -p
	Help = EXEC -d /usr/bin/uahelp -h /usr/lib/ua/pcal.hlp -t "Calendar Preferences"

                  ...., ALL (myself included) have returned their warranty
>cards and only ONE person (per a phone call) has received the free calender
>stuff from AT&T.

So did I, and never heard from AT&T. I didn't even bother to call.

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jcs@tarkus.UUCP (John C. Sucilla) (07/16/88)

In article <642@sunspot.UUCP> oscar@sunspot.UUCP (Oscar Von der Luhe) writes:
>In article <7305@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com writes:
>
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>[[ more stuff deleted ]]
>                  ...., ALL (myself included) have returned their warranty
>>cards and only ONE person (per a phone call) has received the free calender
>>stuff from AT&T.
>
>So did I, and never heard from AT&T. I didn't even bother to call.

Me too.  But I called them to complain and they mumbled something about
it being back ordered.  I got it in about a week complete with the manual.

Somebody in another article said something about a class action lawsuit.
You *were* kidding weren't you?  Your gonna try to go to court over a
freebie???  Ha ha ha ha...

Just pick up the phone and call them.  They'll send it to you.


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bob@rush.cts.com (Bob Ames) (07/17/88)

In article <642@sunspot.UUCP>, oscar@sunspot.UUCP (Oscar Von der Luhe) writes:
> In article <7305@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com writes:
> 
> [ stuff deleted ]
>[>]                  ...., ALL (myself included) have returned their warranty
> >cards and only ONE person (per a phone call) has received the free calender
> >stuff from AT&T.
> 
> So did I, and never heard from AT&T. I didn't even bother to call.

Am I the only person to have actually received a calendar from AT&T?

I have it.  Just call the 'Hotline' and explain your problem (*MANY TIMES*),
and eventually you will reach someone who will actually order it for you.
I recommend calling twice a week.  NO |-)!  You'll get it within a couple
of months if you follow this approach.  We at Howard Publications have
about 150 UNIX PCs and we've received 3 I think.  I got mine within 6 weeks
of constant calling.

Until then, use Oscar's suggestion from /etc/fixes and the preferences entry.

BTW:  The manual for the calendar is, of course, incomplete now that more
features (like remote terminals, to-do lists, etc.) are included in PCAL.

The pcal and pcal.hlp are pulled out of /etc/fixes immediately after pcal
has installed it's (smaller, 3.0 UNIX Version) own.  This is one of
the reasons that just after installing *any* software from User Agent's
Install Software from ... menu the machine takes a million years to
stop cycling - it's checking /etc/fixes for any files that it could replace
with "newer versions" from fixes.  Personal Calendar is the only thing that
I have *ever* seen in /etc/fixes.  I have considered removing the
reference (in /usr/bin/Instcpio.sh?) to searching /etc/fixes against
the just-installed files.  The other reason the machine takes so long is
it's deleting all of the temp files that were created during installation.

Well, AT&T:  Can I redistribute an installable PCAL+IN via public uucp?
Why don't you guys just put it on the STORE!.

Bob Ames      INET: bob@rush.cts.com

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rjg@sialis.mn.org (Robert J. Granvin) (07/18/88)

>Well, AT&T:  Can I redistribute an installable PCAL+IN via public uucp?
>Why don't you guys just put it on the STORE!.

ATT redistribution policies seem to be on a case by case basis.  I've
never been denied redistribution rights for any fixdisk which is only
"available free of charge to registered owners".  Since pcal falls
under the same constraints, it's unlikely they'd be upset about
redistribution, but a call to the hotline is usually enough to confirm
it (surprisingly enough).

I'm convinced they've even forgotten that they _have_ anything like
The Store!  The catalog is still dated 9/01/87, and don't even bother
sending any mail the storekeeper.  It'll never get a reply, assuming
it even gets read...

Unfortunate.  If they were willing to maintain it, it could be
particularly useful.  As it is now, it's almost wasted resources (once
you've gone through the catalog once or twice, it _is_ wasted
resources).  :-(

thad@cup.portal.com (07/18/88)

Gee, didn't I suffix the comment (re: "class action lawsuit") with a
smiley face?   :-)   :-)

thad@cup.portal.com (07/19/88)

Right!  Many, many thanks!

I followed the latest posting of how to "setup" the items from '/etc/fixes/'
and the insertions into Preferences did the trick!

Actually a very nice program.  Now to see if it "alerts" me to my 2PM dental
appointment tomorrow.  Don't see how it could, though, since I have to *BE*
at the dentist at 2PM, and if the bells on the 3B1 ring at 2PM, I'm not going
to be there to hear them.  Oh well ... can THIS be the reason the 3B1 wasn't
the marketing success it deserves to { be | have been } ?   :-)

tom@lakesys.UUCP (Tom Baas) (07/26/88)

Howdee folks,  As I have been reading alote about requests on the Calander
that AT&T owes you,  I thought that seeing as Lenny Tropiano was kind enoug
put the following in the net several months ago, I should share it with you.
the following article a nuber of months ago.  (Thank me for saving it and 
and resubmitting it to the net)   .....You're welcome.....

Good Luck,
Tom                                :-)

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Subject: Re: Preferences for 3B1 Calendar
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Date: 3 Apr 88 18:02:26 GMT
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In article <521\@mccc.UUCP> pjh\@mccc.UUCP (Peter J. Holsberg) writes:
|>
|>Does anyone have a preferences file for the Calendar?  Or know of a way
|>to set preferences, as indicated in pcal.hlp?  Thanks.
|>

Append this to your /usr/lib/ua/Office file:

Name=Calendar
Default = Open
Open=EXEC -d /usr/bin/pcal -c
Help=EXEC -d /usr/bin/uahelp -h /usr/lib/ua/ua.hlp -t Calendar

Append this to your /usr/lib/ua/Preferences file:

Name=Calendar
Default = Open
Open=EXEC -d /usr/bin/pcal -p
Help=EXEC -d /usr/bin/uahelp -h /usr/lib/ua/ua.hlp -t Calendar

If you are using the pcal that is located in /etc/fixes:

$ su
Password:
# mv /etc/fixes/pcal /usr/bin
# mv /etc/fixes/pcal.hlp /usr/lib/ua
# chown bin /usr/bin/pcal /usr/lib/ua/pcal.hlp
# chgrp bin /usr/bin/pcal /usr/lib/ua/pcal.hlp
# chmod 755 /usr/bin/pcal 
# chmod 644 /usr/lib/ua/pcal.hlp

Good luck,
Lenny
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