[unix-pc.general] UNIX PC Questions

dxxb@beta.lanl.gov (David W. Barts) (05/23/89)

Hello there,

	I have been thinking of getting an AT&T UNIX PC (for my
own personal use) for some time now.  I saw an ad in UNIX WORLD
about a place called TRC (Technology Resource Center) in L.A.

	I have an few questions:

	1.  Anyone had any experiences (positive or negative)
	    with this company?

	2.  Any other companies that accept non-local orders for
	    the UNIX pc?  (I live in a remote area - nothing other
	    than a PC available locally.)

	3.  Software to buy - TRC's ad had a number of packages listed.
	    As a minimum I'd want the full UNIX - C compiler, nroff,
	    awk, all standard utilities.  My guess is that purchasing
	    `UNIX System V Release 3.51' and `UNIX Utilities 3.51' would
	    provide this; correct me if I am wrong.

The ad says the system is 10MHZ 68010 based.  Prices thay give are about
$1900 for a system with a 40Mb hard disk, $2400 for 60Mb.  I realize that
this is no longer considered state-of-the-art, but I don't have the $$$
for the latest AT&T, Sun, or NeXT box :-(.

Reply directly to me and I will summarize to the net in a few weeks.

David W. Barts, Ph. 509-376-1718 (FTS 444-1718), dxxb@beta.lanl.GOV

wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (05/25/89)

I bought my Unix PC from Technology Resorce Center in October of
1987.  I got the 2meg / 67 meg model and the Unix + Utilities.  The
whole tab came to ~$2150; the machine being $1500 and %650 for the
software.

They were willing to ship COD with no additional fee and instruct
UPS to accept a personal check.  This proved quite handy, as it
obviated the need to go to the bank for a special money order.

The TRC mahcines are drop shipped from a company named Elite Data
Systems, which is another comany in California.  I was somewhat
surpirsed when I received a bill for $2150 from Elite Data Systems
in March of 1988m, but one phone call was all that was necessary to
straighten out the situation.

There is a person at TRC named Ellis Goldberg who is reasonably
knowledgeable about the Unix PC and can help you get the pieces
that you want to get a reasonable system for your application.

There are threee caviats:  1.  TRC proved somewhat slow; about
1-1/2 months elasped between placing and receiving my order.  They
blamed it on a short supply of 67 meg machines and having misplaced
the paperwork for my machine on one occasion.  2.  There was some
lack of communication between TRC and EDS which resulted in me
being billed twice; though this was *very* quickly resolved.  3.
TRCs prices for everything other than the Unix PC aren't very
competitive.

The advantage is that they are willing to set up a minimum-hassle
COD delivery.  I really do believe that UPS takes better care of
COD orders, as they know that if your item arrives smashed-up that
you probably aren't going to take delivery.

I guess that about says it all.

Bill
wtm@impulse.UUCP

rk@bigbroth.UUCP (rohan kelley) (05/28/89)

In article <1645@neoucom.UUCP>, wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes:
> 
> I bought my Unix PC from Technology Resorce Center in October of
> 1987.  I got the 2meg / 67 meg model and the Unix + Utilities.  The
> whole tab came to ~$2150; the machine being $1500 and %650 for the
> software.

Let me add my observations re dealing with TRC.

If you're interested in mail order DOS & friends software, hardware,
etc. buy computer shopper and shop for the lowest price.  However,
there is virtually nobody who speaks unix whom you can buy from at a
discount.  I used to think that their was no such word as discount in
the unix language.

TRC is an exception.  I bought a 2meg/67meg unixpc from them and
recently bought their own OEM equivalent of the Bell Tech MPE - 386/25,
389meg disk, 4 meg memory, etc.  Their prices are the best around if
you want unix stuff and they shipped promptly to me on both occasions.
Ellis Goldberg, the fellow in charge, is knowledgable in unix and works
hard to give good service and keep his prices rock bottom.  Look at
their latest ad in Unix World.  No mail order house that works on
minimum margins can give you the service and support you expect (but 
often don't get) from the local BIG-COMPUTER-STORE.  If you don't need
a lot of support and are satisfied to work with the manufacturer's
warranty, go with TRC.  Also, they just told me that on their 386
machines, they can now arrange on-location service through intel who
manufacturers their OEM 386 box.

Bill Mayhew mentioned a connection with Elite which had dropshipped his
hardware and there had been some confusion.  I happen to know that TRC
no longer has any connnection with Elite.

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rusty@hodge.UUCP (Rusty H. Hodge) (05/31/89)

In article <1645@neoucom.UUCP>, wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes:
> I really do believe that UPS takes better care of
> COD orders, as they know that if your item arrives smashed-up that
> you probably aren't going to take delivery.

FYI, I recently sold my spare Unix PC to someone in Ohio, and COD'ed it to
him.  UPS really munged it up.  Killed the Hard Disk and yanked the CRT
yoke out of adjustment.

Of course, it was insured.  (Worth the extra $4)  And they were reasonable
good about getting us a check for the damage caused to it...