[unix-pc.general] Missing manual ?

dutchyn@alberta.UUCP (Chris Dutchyn) (06/23/89)

if I got everything I should have.  In particular, I got four
manuals:
	1. Owner's Manual (with GSS drivers)
	2. Getting Started
	3. Communications Management
	4. System Software (with all the disks)
But, everywhere the manuals say "look in AT&T UNIX(tm) PC UNIX System V
User's Manual" for information on just about everything.  In particular,
many of the unique utilities (ktune etc.) are not standard UNIX as I
know it, so I need that kind of info.  The question is: is this manual
supposed to have been included, or is it a separate (and separately
priced) object like the "extended editor" (vi) stuff?

				Thanks,
				Christopher Dutchyn
				(<backbone>!alberta!dutchyn
				 dutchyn@alberta)

sac@conrad.UUCP (Steven A. Conrad) (06/28/89)

In article <308@swanhills.UUCP> dutchyn@alberta.UUCP (Chris Dutchyn) writes:
>if I got everything I should have.  In particular, I got four
 ...
>But, everywhere the manuals say "look in AT&T UNIX(tm) PC UNIX System V
>User's Manual" ...
 ...  The question is: is this manual
>supposed to have been included, or is it a separate (and separately
>priced) object like the "extended editor" (vi) stuff?

The manual you are looking for comes packaged with the utilities (development
and document preparation) software package, not with the basic foundation
set.  They can be ordered separately (or at least could at one time).

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Louisiana State University Medical Center, Shreveport, LA
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rjg@sialis.mn.org (Robert J. Granvin) (06/29/89)

In article <308@swanhills.UUCP> dutchyn@alberta.UUCP (Chris Dutchyn) writes:
>if I got everything I should have.  In particular, I got four
>manuals:
>	1. Owner's Manual (with GSS drivers)
>	2. Getting Started
>	3. Communications Management
>	4. System Software (with all the disks)
>But, everywhere the manuals say "look in AT&T UNIX(tm) PC UNIX System V
>User's Manual" for information on just about everything.  In particular,
>many of the unique utilities (ktune etc.) are not standard UNIX as I
>know it, so I need that kind of info.  The question is: is this manual
>supposed to have been included, or is it a separate (and separately
>priced) object like the "extended editor" (vi) stuff?

So, did you buy the "Utilities" set?

The manuals you list are for the operating system, and the operating
system only.  The utilities include your (real) vi, cc, and all the 
other tools that make life worth living beyond the realm of a user.

If you bought that, you'll also receive:

	1. Programmers Guide
	2. User's Manual I and II
	3. Virtual Device Interface
and	4. Utilities (all the disks)

Since you didn't mention #4, my guess is that you didn't purchase the
set, and therefore you don't have any of the manuals.  If you did
purchase it, perhaps it's one of those cases where your vendor
installed the software for you.  In that case, they didn't send along
the manuals, and you should contact them.

If it was purchased used, well, caveat emptor and try your best.

(Of course, if you have it, and didn't pay for it, well, such is
life... :-)

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thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) (06/29/89)

Chris Dutchyn laments:

" ... if I got everything I should have.  In particular, I got four
  manuals:
	1. Owner's Manual (with GSS drivers)
	2. Getting Started
	3. Communications Management
	4. System Software (with all the disks)
  But, everywhere the manuals say "look in AT&T UNIX(tm) PC UNIX System V
  User's Manual" for information on just about everything.  In particular,
  many of the unique utilities (ktune etc.) are not standard UNIX as I
  know it, so I need that kind of info.  The question is: is this manual
  supposed to have been included, or is it a separate (and separately
  priced) object like the "extended editor" (vi) stuff?
"

The User's Manual (Vol.1 (Sysadmin stuff and misc docs), Vol.2 (commands,
subrs, etc.)), Programmer's Guide, and "something else" accompanies the
UNIXPC Development Set package (which include the C compiler, document
prep set, etc.).  I believe the list price of the Development Set is $495,
but discounts are available from various UNIXPC dealers (for example, I
believe I paid $395 from Softly Speaking in San Jose, CA, and MicroAge in
San Jose has (or had) it for around $425-$450; I don't have the current
pricing from TRC (in the Los Angeles area) or from DDS (in Atlanta GA)).
Other docs accompanying the Dev Set are also critical if you intend doing
software development on your UNIXPC, so you DO want to acquire the Dev Set.

You want to be SURE you get the correct version of the Development Set to
accompany your "basic" Foundation Set software (e.g. BOTH for version 3.51,
3.50, 2.0, etc.); I've noticed differences in both the docs and the software
for the (for example) 2.0 and 3.51 releases for the UNIXPC.

A price list accompanying the Foundation Set software also quoted pricing for
the docs (separately (for use with the programs accompanying the FS)), but
it's better to get the whole package (software and docs).

Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]