blarson@oberon.UUCP (Bob Larson) (12/12/85)
Although the kermit information in the article I am replying to is (as far as I know) correct, I find it easier to get kermit and kermit information via computer networks. I don't think there is currently a kermit version for the IBM System 38. There is an info-kermit mailing list, gatewayed onto usenet as mod.protocols.kermit. (formerly fa.info-kermit) This list anounces new versions, discusses bugs, protocol enhancements, etc. Subscription requests should go to info-kermit-request@cu20b.columbia.edu, submissions to info-kermit@cu20b.columbia.edu. Arpa: Anonymous ftp ker:aaread.me (I'm not sure of the name, but it starts with aa) from cu20b for instructions on how to get files. Bitnet: There is a bitnet server that has most versions of kermit (slightly behind arpanet). I'll post how to get help if there is interest. Uucp: okstate has an anonymous login to distribute kermit. I'll post details if there is interest. Tapes: Tapes of all current versions are available from columbia in serveral common formats. They used to charge $100, but that was when they all fit on one 1600 bpi tape. Frank daCruz can answer kermit questions, (at the above request address) but I'm sure he would apriciate it if you look at the readme files etc. first. -- Bob Larson Arpa: Blarson@Usc-Ecl.Arpa Uucp: ihnp4!sdcrdcf!oberon!blarson __________________________________ Unix: An operating system similar to Os-9, but with less functionality and special features designed to soak up excess memory, disk space and CPU time on large, expencive computers. -- Os-9/68000 operating system users manual
howellg@idec.UUCP (Gareth Howell) (12/24/85)
In article <164@oberon.UUCP> blarson@oberon.UUCP (Bob Larson) writes: >Although the kermit information in the article I am replying to is >(as far as I know) correct, I find it easier to get kermit and kermit >information via computer networks. > >Uucp: okstate has an anonymous login to distribute kermit. I'll post details >if there is interest. > Yes please gareth -- Gareth Howell <howellg@idec.UUCP> STC Network Systems Limited | ...!mcvax!ukc!stc!idec!howellg Private Networks Business Centre | Stevenage Herts England | +44 (0)438 738294 |
dennis@rlgvax.UUCP (Dennis Bednar) (01/06/86)
> In article <164@oberon.UUCP> blarson@oberon.UUCP (Bob Larson) writes: > >Although the kermit information in the article I am replying to is > >(as far as I know) correct, I find it easier to get kermit and kermit > >information via computer networks. > > > >Uucp: okstate has an anonymous login to distribute kermit. I'll post details > >if there is interest. > > > Yes please > gareth Heres the relevant information extracted from the file ckermi.ann, (C-Kermit announcements). Ckermi.ann was actually obtained from okstate using the procedures described below: The files are on CU20B as KER:CK*.*, available via anonymous FTP. The file CKERMI.DOC provides user-level documentation as well as a description of the program organization and hints for adapting it to new systems. Within several days the files should also be available on BITNET via KERMSRV (to get started with KERMSRV, type SMSG RSCS MSG CUVMA KERMSRV HELP), and to Unix systems via UUCP from Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK. Here's how to UUCP to OK State: You need to set up "okstate" as a site in your "L.sys" UUCP dialing file using the information listed below. You can then issue the following command on your system: uucp okstate\!/u/kermit/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic (this example will retrieve the new Unix version of Kermit) The "/usr/spool/uucppublic" is chosen as the destination on your system since the destination must be WIDE OPEN (drwxrwxrwx) to everyone. You should not remove files from your uucppublic until the entire transfer is complete including any redials that are necessary. If you do remove some files our system may retransmit them, resulting in a higher phone bill for you. -- UUCP Login information -- Site Name : okstate Phone number : (405) 624-6953 (one line only) Login name : uucpker Password : thefrog Hours : 10:00pm - 10:00am central time (7 day per week) Problem : okstate!uucp-support (UUCP) reports : uucp-support%okstate@csnet-relay (ARPA) The phone number is for 300/1200 baud (bell compatible). -- Dennis Bednar Computer Consoles Inc. Reston VA 703-648-3300 {decvax,ihnp4,harpo,allegra}!seismo!rlgvax!dennis dennis@rlgvax.UUCP
hans@erisun.UUCP (Hans Albertsson) (01/08/86)
Is there an X25 connection to okstate? I tried several times to call
the number indicated using various ( no doubt including illegal ) modems
but has had no success whatsoever.
I tried all known ( i.e. to me ) american and european modem standards.
--
Two's complement, but three's an int.
Hans Albertsson EIS, USENET/uucp: {decvax,philabs}!mcvax!enea!erix!erisun!hansvasoll@okstate.UUCP (01/09/86)
The version of the okstate announcement that was recently posted is quite
old. Here is an up-to-date version:
OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY KERMIT DIALUP ACCESS
UUCP and Kermit access to the complete Kermit distribution is available from
the Department of Computing and Information Sciences, Oklahoma State
University, Stillwater, Oklahoma.
The files from TAPE A are in /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-a/*
The files from TAPE B are in /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-b/*
- - UUCP -
You need to set up "okstate" as a site in your "L.sys" UUCP dialing file
using the information listed below. You can then issue the following
command on your system:
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic
(this example will retrieve the current version of C-Kermit)
"/usr/spool/uucppublic" was chosen as the destination on your system since
the destination must be WIDE OPEN (drwxrwxrwx) to everyone. You should not
remove files from your uucppublic until the entire transfer is complete
including any redials that are necessary. If you do remove some files, our
system may retransmit them, resulting in a higher phone bill for you.
There are 2 files available that contain information about the entire
distribution. We recommend that you retrieve these files first. They are
"aaaread.me" which explains the file name conventions used, and "aafiles.dir"
which is a complete listing (by name) of all files in the in each kermit
directory. These files will enable you to choose the right files the first
time to save those high dollar phone bills.
- ---- UUCP Login information ----
Site Name : okstate
Phone number : (405) 624-6953 (one line only)
Login name : uucpker
Password : thefrog
Hours : 24 hours per day, 7 days a week
Problem : okstate!uucp-support (UUCP)
reports : uucp-support%okstate@csnet-relay (ARPA)
The phone number is for 300/1200 baud (bell compatible).
The following is a sample L.sys line (\r is a carriage return). You might
want to put a time restriction on Any. ("Any2100-900" in Illinois)
okstate Any ACU 1200 405-624-6953 "" \r ogin: uucpker word: thefrog
Just a few notes on how to best retrieve parts of the Kermit distribution
using UUCP...
- Install the proper L.sys entry and test it using the debugging option
of UUCICO (-x). Repeat this step until you successfully complete a
"no work" connection, this will verify that your L.sys entry is correct
and will minimize frazzled nerves.
- Retrieve the files `aaaread.me' and `aafiles.dir' with the following
commands:
uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aaaread.me /usr/spool/uucppublic
uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.a
uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.b
You will have to escape the exclamation point and the tilde if you are
using the C shell (i.e. ...okstate\!\~uucp/kermit-a...).
- Choose the versions of Kermit that you wish to transfer and issue the
proper UUCP command. Some systems don't seem to like wildcards, but
in any case the wildcards will have to be escaped from your shell. The
following command would retrieve the files relating to C-Kermit:
uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic
PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF /usr/spool/uucppublic! Unless you *really*
understand how UUCP's protections work you should not change this! A
number of people have queued >100 files and had their systems refuse
to store them in out of the way places. This results in wasted phone
time!
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
KERMIT SERVER ACCESS TO THE KERMIT DISTRIBUTION AREA.
Okstate also provides access to the KERMIT distribution via a KERMIT Server.
The number is the same as above for the uucpker login, so the line may be busy
quite a bit. This server is a specialized server with controlled access. At
present, the server is only allowed access to the kermit directories on our
machine. By issuing the command "REMOTE HELP" from your KERMIT, you will see
a description of the commands that the server will recognize, and a line like
- --> /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-a: r
/usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-b: r
This means that the server can read files from the indicated directory. Other
possibilities exist, there is w-Write access, d-Delete access, and x-Execute
access. At any rate, you can only read from the kermit-* directories at this
time, and these are the only directories that you may access.
KERMIT login : kermsrv
Password : piggy
Parity : even
Data path : 7 bit
Available : 24 hours/day, 7 days a week
When the login is completed, the server will start, and you should escape
back to your local KERMIT to issue further commands. If the server remains
idle for a period of time around 10 minutes, it will be stopped. While the
server is receiving data other than NAK packets, it will continue to run.
The best place to start after logging on is "REMOTE HELP", followed closely by
the desired "REMOTE DIR" commands. If you don't include an argument to REMOTE
DIR, you should be prepared for more than 600 lines of output. It is usually
better to read the AAAREAD.ME file (using REMOTE TYPE perhaps) and then do
the DIR with some kind of wildcard (like "REMOTE DIR ck*").
If your kermit does not support remote commands, then you can get files from
either directory by preceding the file name with the proper path, as in:
get /usr/spool/uucp/kermit-b/ck*
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- If you are having problems connecting to our system PLEASE send mail
to {cbosgd, ea, ihnp4, isucs1, mcvax, uokvax}!okstate!uucp-support
- Kind words also make my day!
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks,
Mark Vasoll
Department of Computing and Information Sciences
Oklahoma State University
UUCP: {cbosgd, ea, ihnp4, isucs1, mcvax, pesnta, uokvax}!okstate!vasoll
ARPA: vasoll%okstate.csnet@csnet-relay.arpajimb@tekigm2.UUCP (07/15/86)
I am looking for a way to transfer ascii text files between a PDP-8 running OS-8 and an IBM PC (running MSDOS). I use kermit to transfer between other machines (Unix, RSTS, Macintosh, IBM, etc) and am wondering if there exists such a program for the PDP 8? Or, alternately, how else can I do it? Has anyone done this? I would welcome any help I can get. Please, no remarks like why would anyone want to do that and do PDP-8's really still exist, etc. No flames please. only constructive advice. jim boland tektronix!tekigm2!jimb