[unix-pc.general] vertically-mounted floppies

dwex@cbnewsj.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) (05/26/90)

What is peoples' opinion of vertically-mounted floppy drives these days?
In days of yore, most drives were vertical, but for the last 10 years or so,
all floppies I have seen have been mounted horizontally.

The reason I am asking is that I am planning on adding a 3.5" drive to my
3b1.  Jameco sells a cabinet, with power supply and cabling, for 2 half-height
drives (mounted vertically).  I was thinking about putting the existing
5.25" and the new 3.5" drive in the same cabinet, and mounting the drive-select
switch on the cabinet.

Please email your responses.  If anyone else gives a hoot, I will summarize
to the net.

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mdapoz@hybrid.UUCP (Mark Dapoz) (05/28/90)

In article <1990May25.184349.24830@cbnewsj.att.com> dwex@cbnewsj.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) writes:
>What is peoples' opinion of vertically-mounted floppy drives these days?
>In days of yore, most drives were vertical, but for the last 10 years or so,
>all floppies I have seen have been mounted horizontally.

For those of you that were at the 3b1 BOF at the last usenix, you probably
saw the case I designed for my 3b1.  In my case, I mounted the drives (a 5.25"
and 3.5") vertically in it.  Personally, I think drives are much easier to use 
when mounted vertcially since I don't have to twist my hand as much when 
inserting the disk.  Either that or I'm just used to it from my 'ole CP/M
days when almost all the systems had disks mounted vertically (I skipped the
DOS era so I was never forced to change :-).

>The reason I am asking is that I am planning on adding a 3.5" drive to my
>3b1.  Jameco sells a cabinet, with power supply and cabling, for 2 half-height
>drives (mounted vertically).  I was thinking about putting the existing
>5.25" and the new 3.5" drive in the same cabinet, and mounting the drive-select
>switch on the cabinet.

Sounds like a good idea but what are you going to do with the empty slot where
the 5.25" drive used to be?  You may also want to put the drive select switch 
in the plastic panel of the 5.25" drive, that's what I did.  This way you
can flip it one way for the 5.25" and the other way for the 3.5".
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rhaar@rcsac1.uucp (Bob Haar CS50) (05/29/90)

In article <1990May28.010513.3392@hybrid.UUCP> mdapoz@hybrid.UUCP (Mark Dapoz) writes:

>For those of you that were at the 3b1 BOF at the last usenix, you probably
>saw the case I designed for my 3b1.  In my case, I mounted the drives (a 5.25"
>and 3.5") vertically in it.  

How about posting a description of this new case? I, for one, would be
interested in re-packaging my 7300 and would like to discuss some
of the options.

I am planning to build some custom furniture for my study to include
my UNIX-pc and printer. I would like to get the main body of the
UNIX-pc off the desk top.

Some questions:

1) Can the monitor be removed from the case and run via some extension
cable/ Any noise problems with this? Alternatively, can the video
output be run to a composite video monitor?

2) Does anyone know how to get an extension cable for the keyboard other
than splicing in some wires?

3) are there any problems with moving the floppy drive to a seperate
box?

4) If I do move the floppy drive out, can I put a second hard drive
in its place? (assuming the second drive mod and a 3b1 power supply)

5) Might there be any temperature problems with putting the 7300 into
an enclosed cabinet ?


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mdapoz@hybrid.UUCP (Mark Dapoz) (06/04/90)

In article <14063@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
>In article <1990May31.035625.18728@hybrid.UUCP> mdapoz@hybrid.UUCP (Mark Dapoz) writes:
>|[...]
>	I think Mark had a spot of bad luck -
>	I've been running 2 drives on a 3B1
>	power supply for months, without a
>	hint of trouble. Thee drives are large
>	Maxtors (1105 & 2190). The supply seems
>	to run slightly hotter, but the top of
>	the 3B1 case doesn't seem too warm...

But Bruce, you only have one card installed, a combo card with no memory
on it.  I have a combo card with 1.5 meg, voice card and tape drive.  You'd
be surprised how much of a load those cards can add to the machine, especially
the voice card.  Let's see what happens when you add the 1.5 meg of ram on 
the combo card (you have an extra power supply right :-).
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bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (06/04/90)

In article <1990Jun3.202319.16565@hybrid.UUCP> mdapoz@hybrid.UUCP (Mark Dapoz) writes:
|In article <14063@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
|>In article <1990May31.035625.18728@hybrid.UUCP> mdapoz@hybrid.UUCP (Mark Dapoz) writes:
|>|[...]
|>	I think Mark had a spot of bad luck -
|>	I've been running 2 drives on a 3B1
|>	power supply for months, without a
|>	hint of trouble. Thee drives are large
|>	Maxtors (1105 & 2190). The supply seems
|>	to run slightly hotter, but the top of
|>	the 3B1 case doesn't seem too warm...
|
|But Bruce, you only have one card installed, a combo card with no memory
|on it.  I have a combo card with 1.5 meg, voice card and tape drive.  You'd
|be surprised how much of a load those cards can add to the machine, especially
|the voice card.  Let's see what happens when you add the 1.5 meg of ram on 
|the combo card (you have an extra power supply right :-).

	Actually the combo card has 0.5 meg on it.

	I suppose the needed extra 1.0 meg of memory
	will stress the supply more, but somehow I
	am not worried (perhaps foolishly?). The 3B1
	supply ought to still be within its published
	ratings...

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