[unix-pc.general] Problems with diagnostic disk

kak@hico2.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel) (01/14/91)

This is getting bizzare. 

In article <725@hico2.UUCP>, I (kak@hico2.westmark.com) 
> In article <671@hico2.UUCP>, I (kak@hico2.westmark.com) write:
> > In article <649@hico2.UUCP>, I (kak@hico2.westmark.com) write:

> > Now, the diagnostic disk won't boot EITHER.
> > I have no idea what would cause a progressive failure like this.
> The machine is still interacting with the floppy, if I open the
> latch, the generation of the squares stops.  

One suggestion I got was that the diagnostic floppy could have 
have been trashed, and suggested I test this with booting off 
Foundation set #3.  (thanks to Peter Schmit) Well, this disk booted!.
So I grapped the s4 diagnostics and Thad's install script.  I
created a new, bootable diagnostic floppy.  THAT won't boot.
(it, and the munged diagnostic both boot on hico2, 
 and while the bad diagnostic disk won't load properly
 on hico2, NOTHING works right with either disk on ailing hico3.)

I'm wondering what I did wrong, what's different about the
diagnostics disks (and hico3) that they won't boot in hico3,
but Foundation set #3 will?
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kak@hico2.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel) (01/16/91)

In article <772@hico2.UUCP>, I write:
> This is getting bizzare. 
> 
> > > Now, the diagnostic disk won't boot EITHER.
> 
> One suggestion I got was that the diagnostic floppy could have 
> have been trashed, and suggested I test this with booting off 
> Foundation set #3.  (thanks to Peter Schmit) Well, this disk booted!.
> So I grapped the s4 diagnostics and Thad's install script.
> I created a new, bootable diagnostic floppy.  THAT won't boot.
> (it, and the munged diagnostic both boot on hico2, 
>  and while the bad diagnostic disk won't load properly
>  on hico2, NOTHING works right with either disk on ailing hico3.)

Ok, I think I've got past this.  I started to try to create a diagnostic
disk by hand, and I had done the /etc/iv.  Then I got Thad's previous
script, and used that to re-make the floppy.  If I understand correctly,
Thad's script forgot to put a loader on, so maybe there was some kind
of remenent of when I did the first iv.

The original diagnostic floppy might have had a bad block somewhere
in the boot area, the first time it failed the surface test
with drive 0 track 0 sector 0 bad. (or whatever, all zeros)
I'm not sure why the double-written diagnostic disk would boot
on hico2 and not on hico3, but it could have been an artifact of
its odd upbringing.

I re-made the diagnostics disk using instructions from Peter Schmidt
(...mit-eddie!winter!pschmidt)(Thanks again!), and the new diagnostics
disks worked fine! (one I had to make twice).  I'm also putting a
write-protect tab on everything.  Sooooo, now the floppy disk works
and the hard disk doesn't.  At least it's a simpler problem.