[comp.windows.x] X Server for INTEL 82786 ?

zeller@strati.ethz.ch (Lukas Zeller) (02/21/88)

Recently I heard a rumour of an X implementation supporting the 82786
Graphics Coprocessor from INTEL.
Does anyone know more ? Thanks a lot in advance for any hint.

Lukas Zeller  <zeller@strati.ethz.ch>

swick@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ralph R. Swick) (02/21/88)

> From: Lukas Zeller <zeller%strati.ethz.ch@RELAY.CS.NET>
> 
> Recently I heard a rumour of an X implementation supporting the 82786
> Graphics Coprocessor from INTEL.

Intel (and others) showed it last week at Uniform.
They have a telephone...

bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) (02/22/88)

>Recently I heard a rumour of an X implementation supporting the 82786
>Graphics Coprocessor from INTEL.
>Does anyone know more ? Thanks a lot in advance for any hint.

There was a company "Bell Technologies" (no relationship to the
companies descended from Alexander Graham as far as I can tell, this
one was in CA someplace) showing an X server running on a 386 (some
SysV Unixoid no doubt) using the 82786 graphics co-processor on a
1260x1600 19" Monochrome screen at UNIFORUM.

The speed and responsiveness seemed quite impressive, don't remember
noticing if it was X10 or X11. The show price, with the screen, board
and software, was $995 (you roll your own 386 system.) I guess it's
more like $2K other times which still seems very good.

I certainly did not see enough of this product to recommend it but it
does seem worth looking into further if you are interested in such
things.

	-Barry Shein, Boston University

caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) (02/27/88)

In article <20079@bu-cs.BU.EDU> bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) writes:
:The speed and responsiveness seemed quite impressive, don't remember
:noticing if it was X10 or X11. The show price, with the screen, board
:and software, was $995 (you roll your own 386 system.) I guess it's
:more like $2K other times which still seems very good.

It's X10, the $995 doesn't include the monitor, that was $500 show
special ($1500 total).  I am trying to bring the package up on ISC 386
Unix, but there seem to be some missing files which Bell Tech is looking
into.  Thank heavens they have an 800 number.

bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) (02/28/88)

>It's X10, the $995 doesn't include the monitor, that was $500 show
>special ($1500 total).  I am trying to bring the package up on ISC 386
>Unix, but there seem to be some missing files which Bell Tech is looking
>into.  Thank heavens they have an 800 number.

[this borders more on misc.consumers...]

Interesting, he (the rep at the booth) specifically told me that the
monitor was included and went on about how they were losing money on
that but decided to include it because the handout seemed to hold them
liable to that offer. Verbatim from the glossy handout (I have it
right here):

	SHOW SPECIAL

	buy the graphics engine,
	get the monitor at 50% OFF!

	- The Graphics Engine
	- 19" Moniterm Monitor
	- X Windows Software
	- ``Best Of'' Software Collection

		from $995*

	...nothing relevent...

	Imagine! a 19" 1660 x 1200 display just like the
	$25,000 workstations, only faster -- for only $995
	on any 80386 ATT compatible!

	...more nothing relevent...

	*Other restrictions apply. Stop by Booth 2035 for details.

It's probably arguable what they meant by "get the monitor at 50% off"
and exactly what "from" and "Other restrictions apply" means. Don't ya
love it!

Anyhow, I provide this for anyone that bought it at the show and feels
like they may have been somehow deceived. Obviously anything he said
to me is mere hearsay and I would say that $995 for all of that does
seem a bit too good to be true, even $1500 seems like a very good
price for the whole package. For everyone else on the planet, this was
clearly marked a "SHOW SPECIAL", the show is over, so it doesn't
affect you.

	-Barry Shein, Boston University