jip@nih-csl.UUCP (john powell) (03/08/88)
Environment: SUN 3/50 OS 3.4, X11R2 via epos.mit.edu FTP. X11 server, libs and clients all build with no problems, following releasenotes and server/ddx/sun/README files. Observations: 1. I have not discovered the relevant documentation concerning setting up of .Xdefaults and other files for clients which use the toolkit. It seems that the '.' changes to a '*' for clients (like xterm) which use the toolkit. Although MAN pages suggest that the format is *[lowercase] it seems that both upper and lower case work. 2. Also it is not clear whether the -geometry switch wants an '=' sign or just the 111x111+0+0. For example xclock says Usage: [-g =[<width>][x<height>][<+-><xoff>[<+-><yoff>]]] but it accepts -g <width>][x<height><+-><xoff>[<+-><yoff>. 3. If you bring up xterm, get both vt and tek windows showing, reverse video on vt and both reverse (OK). However if you bring up xterm (NO tek window showing, just vt) and then select reverse video, now when tek window is shown it is still normal video and nothing shows up on the tek display. 4. xterm windows do not seem to want to DIE. The menu kill doesn't seem to do anything (signalInhibit is not in .Xdefaults and default should be false according to man). 5. Running xterm on a SUN (via rsh) to a server on IBM RT, the xterm comes up reverse video. xterm from R1 comes up correctly. 6. The spaceout (or space) program posted a while back, which runs correctly on RTs and uVAXs ... still displays a black screen on the SUN X11R2 as it did on R1. Although I have not yet tried andrew on R2 (still FTPing :)), trying the pre-release 2 andrew - cursors inside andrew windows are invisible as they were in R1 (included here because I suspect its the same problem.) 7. x10tox11 - is very nice - to bad Mark Poeppings Menuwm will not run thru it ... maybe CMU will provide an overlapping CWM - it would be NICE. (I am grateful for cmenu) John Powell (301) 496-2963 National Institutes of Health DCRT, CSL Bldg. 12-A, Rm 2031 Bethesda, Md. 20892 uucp - uunet!ncifcrf.gov!nih-csl!jip Internet - jip%nih-csl@ncifcrf.gov
jeff@polyslo.UUCP (Jeff Weinstein) (03/08/88)
In article <315@nih-csl.UUCP> jip@nih-csl.UUCP (john powell) writes: > >6. The spaceout (or space) program posted a while back, which runs > correctly on RTs and uVAXs ... still displays a black screen on > the SUN X11R2 as it did on R1. Although I have not yet tried andrew > on R2 (still FTPing :)), trying the pre-release 2 andrew > - cursors inside andrew windows are invisible as they were in R1 > (included here because I suspect its the same problem.) I worked on the IBM servers while on co-op. The spaceout program helped to find many bugs in the servers. It might be instructive for other server implementors to try it, especially Sun. As I recall the problem was with stipples. > >7. x10tox11 - is very nice - to bad Mark Poeppings Menuwm will > not run thru it ... maybe CMU will provide an overlapping > CWM - it would be NICE. (I am grateful for cmenu) > CWM and cmenu were done by the folks at the IBM cambridge scientific center in support of the Andrew on X work going on at CMU and Palo Alto. Jeff Weinstein Computer Systems Lab Cal Poly State Univ. San Luis Obispo, CA jeff@polyslo.uucp ucbvax!voder!polyslo!jeff DISCLAIMER: I no longer work for IBM, and I don't speak for them, or Cal Poly for that matter.
RWS@ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU (Robert Scheifler) (03/09/88)
Date: 7 Mar 88 20:23:27 GMT From: elsie!nih-csl!jip@cvl.umd.edu (john powell) 1. I have not discovered the relevant documentation concerning setting up of .Xdefaults and other files for clients which use the toolkit. Actually, it is for all clients using the resource manager services of Xlib, not just toolkit ones. Relevant documentaion can be found in the Xlib manual, section 10.11. It seems that the '.' changes to a '*' for clients (like xterm) which use the toolkit. That is a good first approximation; lots of things probably want the weak binding of '*'. However, you will still want to use '.' for various things. For example, in xmh, you probably want to specify .borderWith instead of *borderWidth, unless you want to affect the borders of all the internal buttons, etc. Although MAN pages suggest that the format is *[lowercase] it seems that both upper and lower case work. Case is significant in resource names, typically distinguishing instance from class. In simple toolkit clients either will work because there is only one instance. 2. Also it is not clear whether the -geometry switch wants an '=' sign or just the 111x111+0+0. The leading = is not required; we allow it for backward compatibility of a sort. 3. If you bring up xterm ... If you find bugs, submit reports to xbugs@expo.lcs.mit.edu. Use the template provided with the release. 4. xterm windows do not seem to want to DIE. Works fine for me. If you find bugs ... and provide us with sufficient context (OS, etc). 5. Running xterm on a SUN (via rsh) to a server on IBM RT, the xterm comes up reverse video. xterm from R1 comes up correctly. If you find bugs ... 7. x10tox11 - is very nice - to bad Mark Poeppings Menuwm will not run thru it If you find bugs ...