[comp.windows.x] YARTS

tek@CS.UCLA.EDU (04/12/88)

If you don't want to read Yet Another Release Two Story (YARTS), press 
"n" now and save yourself some eye strain. What follows is my
experience and comments concerning X11 R2. I admit right up front much
of it is just whining. 

The setting: SUN-3/60FC (CG4 with 16" display), SUN OS 3.5

On a 16" screen 9x15 font looks really small to me. So I have hacked
up an 11x19. If anyone wants it, I will send them the bdf.


	CORE DISTRIBUTION
This part compiles and installs beautifully, with a few minor
exceptions. The consortium people should be congratulated for that. 
Don't turn on the "MakeContributed" switch, there is almost a zero
chance that the contrib stuff will make without error. The Xlib man
pages are installed with "3X" suffixes, instead of the "ManSuffix",
but that's easy to fix. I think "make install" should also make a
symbolic link from "X" to "Xsun" or whatever server you make.

PLAID:	Typing CTRL/C to this demo, can cause "unknown event type: 19"
	messages.

UWM: 	Yes, I want titlebars too. I have not been able to get menu
	colors to work, has anyone else has this problem too?
	Maybe some parts of .uwmrc should be abolished and replaced
	with resources. Maybe .uwmrc should be called .uwmrc.X11 to
	prevent conflict with X10 uwm.

XBIFF:	They weren't kidding about ugly bitmaps. I wonder why they
	didn't use the one from X10 R4? A lot of nice features from
	the X10 one are missing (eg starting your mail reader).

XCLOCK:	The man page lists the wrong names for the "highlight" and
	"hands" resources.

XLOAD:	Does not have a "highlight" option like X10 R4 did.

XSETROOT: Don't use the "-gray" option, it seems to screw up all
	suceeding XCreateGC requests.

XSUN:	I can't get the CG4 to swap between mono and color screens.
	Anyone else with this problem?

XTERM:	There should be a "console" option.

doc/Helloworld: The examples come out with a super tiny font. 

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	CONTRIB DISTRIBUTION
	
Interviews: where can you get a C++ compiler?

Xr11:	I wish the HP guys would provide a postscript file for their
	documentation (even without the pictures).

	I got only one warning when compiling. In
	src/Editor/ScrollBar.c around line 1773, the line
		if (lineCount >= 199) break;
	gives a warning. "lineCount" is declared as an "INT8" 
	(ie a char). I changed 199 to 127. I suppose you could also
	change it to be declared as a "UINT8" (ie unsigned char) also.

Andrew:	does not compile for me, also it seems to take up a HUGE
	amount of space while making

Emacs:	I got 18.50 from PREP. It seems to generally work. The XMENU
	stuff has not been put in yet. I wish you could position the
	icon in a resource. The "-rn" (resource name) option ends up
	being interpreted as a filename. The cursor color seems to
	randomly switch between the color specified in "Cursor" and
	"Foreground" resources.

TeXX:	Unfortunately, this seems to blow up when I run it. I get an X
	server error for request 70, which I believe is the
	XFillRectangle request. I have not applied any of those fixes
	that have been posted recently, maybe they fix this.

-ted
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jim@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Jim Fulton) (04/12/88)

> XBIFF:  They weren't kidding about ugly bitmaps. I wonder why they
>         didn't use the one from X10 R4? A lot of nice features from
>         the X10 one are missing (eg starting your mail reader).

I did.  However, it was a version of xbiff that I wrote a long time ago.  This
was a one hour hack.  We'll most gladly accept diffs, new bitmaps, rewrites,
etc.


> Emacs:  I got 18.50 from PREP. It seems to generally work. The XMENU
>         stuff has not been put in yet. I wish you could position the
>         icon in a resource. The "-rn" (resource name) option ends up
>         being interpreted as a filename. The cursor color seems to
>         randomly switch between the color specified in "Cursor" and
>         "Foreground" resources.

People should make sure that they get 18.51 when it comes out.  The X11 support
in 18.50 was buggy and somewhat confusing to use.

bob@banjo.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) (04/12/88)

In article <11130@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> tek@CS.UCLA.EDU () writes:
>Interviews: where can you get a C++ compiler?

Get one via FTP from prep.ai.mit.edu:/u/emacs/g++.tar-1.18.2.Z, or via
UUCP from osu-cis.  Write me for UUCP instructions if you need them.
Or there are companies that will take your money to support one.

Note that I haven't yet made InterViews with GNU C++; it's on my
Things To Do list.  Has anybody else tried it yet?  Any luck?
-=-
 Bob Sutterfield, Department of Computer and Information Science
 The Ohio State University; 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277
 bob@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!att!osu-cis!bob