[net.news] Re net.emacs

furuta (01/11/83)

net.emacs is a gatewayed Arpanet list, Unix.Emacs@CMUA, which discusses
Gosling's Emacs.  Gosling's maintains the Arpanet list and has been
using it to announce new versions, bug fixes, etc. (where etc. also
includes software like his spreadsheet calculator, sc).  Creation of
the group probably wasn't discussed here in Usenet before being created
because it's making information currently available on the Arpanet also
available to those Unix sites which are on Usenet but not the Arpanet.
If Usenet doesn't want to hear this information, I'm sure that the
gateway could be convinced to turn it off.

Since the Arpanet list was serving a fairly specialized purpose,
disseminating information about Gosling's Emacs, it will obviously
become necessary and desirable to subdivide net.emacs if the Usenet
conversations start wandering too far afield.  There seem to be a
thousand and one different Unix Emacs.  Discussions involving the
internals of one particular one will not be of interest to those who
run the others.  Perhaps net news 2.10 will allow this subdivision.
Does it matter?  I'm sure, however, that there will be lots of people
who will be limited to 14 character news groups names for some time.

I happen to think that net.emacs is not that bad of a name for this
group.  I don't object violently to its existance.  The main purpose of
this note is to prevent another net.trivia-like renaming fiasco from
taking place.  Any damage which has been done by creating this group is
much less than the damage which will be done by moving it around.  In a
year, it may even seem logical.

			--Rick

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warren (01/11/83)

Being a recipient of all of the emacs mailing lists, I doubt that
the volume in net.emacs would swamp anybody.  It is interesting
information to see what is available in other implementations
anyway, even if your emacs isn't the one being disucssed.  I don't
really see it necessary to create lots of subgroups yet.  I could
make 2 suggestions to those submitting things.

1)	Identify which implementation you are talking about in each
	message.  (Gosling's, Zimmerman's, Montgomery's(BTL), ITS/TWENEX)

2)	When mailing lists are gatewayed, and this applies to other
	gatewayed mailing lists as well, strip the irrelevant junk
	out of the headers.  Gosling's mailing list comes with a
	full page of headers containing the entire list and all of
	the sites it visited along the way.


		Warren Montgomery
		ihnss!warren