mikew@x2.wyse.com (Mike Wexler) (07/19/88)
The current tally is 98 Yes votes, and 1 vote that is yes if I carry
X10 sources and no if I don't. I still haven't decided whether I
should carry X10 sources. If someone is willing to test them for me
I would probably be willing to accept them. Since they will be
processed by someone else they may get posted slower. If you want
to see this group get created, please send your vote now. At the
end of this article there is a list of the people who I have received
Yes votes from. If there are any mistakes, please send me mail.
Please send me source to post. It is likeley the group will be created,
and I would like to have something to send out.
Several people have offered to become archive sites. I have listed
each of the people that have offered to archive comp.sources.x.
If you would like to be an archive site, please contact me. Also
there are a group of people who are going to archive the X
distribution and other stuff. They will probably also archive this
newsgroup if it gets created.
Person/Site: James Turner (turner@daisy):
Where: Mtn View, CA
Service: Anonymous UUCP & SnailMail tapes
Ad: Yes
Direct connect: Yes
Modems: 1200/2400, Telebits RSN
Person/Site: Rich Kulawiec (rsk@j.cc.purdue.edu)
Where: Indiana
Service: Anonymous FTP
Ad: Yes
Direct connect: No
Person/Site: Lee Daniels (lee@hhb)
Where: New Jersey
Service: anonymous UUCP
Ad: yes
Direct connect: Yes
Modems: connect: 1200/2400
Person/Site: Paul Vixie (vixie@decwrl.dec.com)
Where: Palo Alto, California
Service: Anonymous FTP(decwrl.dec.com), UUCP to existing neighbors
Ad: Yes
Direct connect: No
Person/Site: Ron Heiby (heiby@mcdchg)
Where: Illinois
Service: Anonymous UUCP
Direct Connect: Yes
Ad: Yes
Modems: 1200 Baud
Person/Site: Sharan Kalwani (shan@mcf.uucp or mcb!shan@umix.cc.unich.edu)
Where: Michigan
Service: mail server and possible UUCP access
Ad: Yes
Direct connect: Yes
Modems: 1200/2400, Trailblazer
Person/site: Russell Brown (russell@imtec)
Where: Peterborough, Cambrideshire, U.K.
Service: anonymous UUCP
Ad: Yes
Direct connect: Probably not
Modems: Steebek Quatro - V.22 V.22bis V.23
--------------------------------------Yes Votes--------------------------------
mensa.uni-paderborn.de!hsg@unido (Joerg Hoyer)
B3DSCG9%CALSTATE.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (HELP)
actisb!usenet@unido ("Usenet Administrator")
aguayo@iris.ucdavis.edu (Carlos Aguayo)
andante!watmath!focsys!larry@EDDIE.MIT.EDU
apex!chuckh@microsof
asp@cos.com (Andrew S. Partan)
athertn.Atherton.COM!ericb@sun (Eric Black)
boning@CAF.MIT.EDU (Duane Boning)
brock@cs.unc.edu (J. Dean Brock)
bud@uts.amdahl.com (A. G. Bud Conrad)
carola!pell@rainier (P{r Emanuelsson)
cci632!ritcsh!boba@ccicpg (Bob Armstrong)
chemabs!chemabs!lwv27@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Larry W. Virden)
chongo@uts.amdahl.com (Landon Curt Noll)
chorus.fr!dp@mcvax (Didier Poirot)
cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
cks@ziebmef (Chris Siebenmann)
claris!skip@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Brian Schipper)
cmcl2!allegra!jac@rutgers.edu (Jonathan Chandross)
crin.crin.fr!tombre@mcvax (Karl Tombre)
david@pacbell.pacbell.com (David St.Pierre)
don@pyr.gatech.edu (Don Deal)
elan!jlo@ames (Jeff Lo)
elxsi!gazelle!len@sun (Len Mills)
ephraim%TECHUNIX.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Ephraim Silverberg)
esunix!roma!csteury@cs.utah.edu (Craig Steury)
ficc!peter@sugar
geovision!graham@cognos (Graham Ashby)
glennw@shark.gwd.tek.com (Glenn Widener)
gmdka!landwehr@unido (Rudolf Landwehr)
gore@eecs.nwu.edu (Jacob Gore)
gt-eedsp!kd4nc!dug@gatech.edu
heiby@mcdchg (Ron Heiby)
howard@erix.ericsson.se (Howard Gayle)
hplabs!utah-cs!gr.utah.edu!uplherc!sp7040!obie!wes@sun
hvr%tanelorn@Sun.COM (Heather Rose)
imtec!russell@mcvax (Russell Brown)
jac@uts.amdahl.com (John Carmichael)
jac@uts.amdahl.com (John Carmichael)
jdd%db.toronto.edu@RELAY.CS.NET ("John D. DiMarco")
jee@genrad.com
jeff%hammer.gwd.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET (Jeff Beadles)
jmsellens%watdragon.waterloo.edu@RELAY.CS.NET ("John M. Sellens")
john@viper.lynx.mn.org (John Stanley)
keith%perf.CRAY.COM@uc.msc.umn.edu (Keith A. Fredericks)
klr@hadron (Kurt L. Reisler)
kts@quintro (Kenneth T. Smelcer)
lef@nascom.nas.com (Lawrence E. Freil)
lisper-bjorn@YALE.ARPA (Bjorn Lisper)
lsefton@uts.amdahl.com (Laurie Sefton)
luis%postgres.Berkeley.EDU@Berkeley.EDU (Luis Miguel)
maureen@uts.amdahl.com (Maureen McKenzie)
mimsy!aplcen!lloyd
mips!koblas (David Koblas)
mirsa.inria.Fr!colas@mcvax (Colas NAHABOO)
mlandau@diamond.bbn.com (Matt Landau)
moraes%godzilla.ele.toronto.edu@RELAY.CS.NET (Mark Moraes)
msdc!peter@gatech.edu (Peter N. Wan)
natmlab.dms.oz.au!neilc@munnari (Neil Crellin)
naughton@Sun.COM (Patrick Naughton)
oxtrap!osm@umix (Owen Scott Medd)
pacbell!belltec!uucp@intsc
pacbell!belltec!uucp@intsc
pan!jw@mcvax
peters@apple (Steve Peters)
portal!cup.portal.com!Orion@sun
rbh00@uts.amdahl.com (Richard Hitt)
rick@svedberg.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rja@edison.ge.com (rja)
root@libove.UUCP (The Super User)
rtech!llama.rtech.UUCP!terryr@sun (Terry Rhodes)
scott@tekcrl.crl (Scott Huddleston)
shan%mcf.uucp@umix.cc.umich.edu
ssbell!root@btni (root)
starbarlounge.cc.umich.edu!emv@umix (Edward Vielmetti)
steven@uts.amdahl.com (Steven Swinkels)
stevet@athertn.atherton.com (Steve Tom)
texsun!killer!tness1!sugar!madhouse!sugar!ficc!peter@sun
texsun!vector!chip@sun (Chip Rosenthal)
tnagreen%dahlia.waterloo.edu@RELAY.CS.NET (T_revor Green)
tower@bu-it.BU.EDU (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
tron@uts.amdahl.com (Ronald S. Karr)
tsunami!valley!csun!lkw@sun (Larry Wake)
tub!net@unido ("Oliver Laumann")
ucbvax!violet.berkeley.edu!cosmic@decwrl
ucdavis!caldwr!ack@lll-crg.llnl.gov (David Ackerman)
ulowell!apollo!oj@mit-eddie (Ellis Oliver Jones)
umix!bio-image.bio-image!mike@rutgers.edu (Mike Bernson)
unizh!meyer@mcvax
utzoo!edhnic!hugh@attcan
vader!bcs212@cbmvax (Vince Skahan)
vix@ubvax.UB.Com (Paul Vixie)
vsi1!lmb (Larry Blair)
weemba%garnet.Berkeley.EDU@violet.berkeley.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
wohler@spam.istc.sri.com (Bill Wohler)
zgdvda!muth@unido (Matthias Muth)
------------------------------------Maybe vote---------------------------------
jeff%hammer.gwd.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET (Jeff Beadles)
Mike Wexler(wyse!mikew) Phone: (408)433-1000 x1330jkh@ardent.UUCP (07/19/88)
I don't think it's necessary to post a list of "yes" votes to xpert, getting Gene or Mark to agree that it's a "good thing" should be enough (you can show them the "yes" list if necessary). I also think you've left out the Canadian archive site(s), which should annoy the Canadian archive coordinator somewhat considering the number of times he's posted "Yes! Me! I'll do it!" messages to both of us. Jordan
vixie@palo-alto.DEC.COM (Paul Vixie) (07/19/88)
I apologize to the Internet readers of this message. It's aimed primarily
at the Usenix side of the list.
In article <8807190201.AA00201@scrod.ardent.com> jkh@ardent.UUCP writes:
# I don't think it's necessary to post a list of "yes" votes to xpert, getting
# Gene or Mark to agree that it's a "good thing" should be enough (you can show
# them the "yes" list if necessary).
Gene (Spafford) is on vacation right now; Mark (Horton) doesn't really get
that involved with newgroup proposals these days. In either case, someone
from the backbone simply agreeing that it's a "good thing" is _not_ enough
to get a group created (nor is enough to keep a group from being created if
the BB thinks a group is a "bad thing").
Posting the "yes" vote list is nec'y because of the basic unreliability of
mail. If someone voted "yes" and did not see their name on the list, they
would know to send another vote. Posting them here in comp.windows.x is
approp- riate, since it's the only related group in Usenet right now. I
didn't check, but if the "yes vote list" wasn't cross-posted to news.groups,
it should have been. That's common practice.
Again, I apologize to the Internet contingent of this list; Usenet is in an
unstable state right now and I wanted to make sure that Jordan's innocent
confusion about the newgroup process didn't lead to any further confusion.
--
Paul Vixie
Digital Equipment Corporation Work: vixie@dec.com Play: paul@vixie.UUCP
Western Research Laboratory uunet!decwrl!vixie uunet!vixie!paul
Palo Alto, California, USA +1 415 853 6600 +1 415 864 7013jkh@ardent.UUCP (07/20/88)
That's all well and good, but suppose a good number of people aren't interested in seeing this information when there's an excellent chance of seeing it replicated a number of times? Just trying to cut down on the signal-to-noise ratio... Perhaps it could be mailed directly to the interested parties? I also don't see how the "yes" votes are going to directly result in the creation of the newsgroup. Perhaps someone would care to explain the voting process to me? Via mail? Enough said on this subject.. This list is approaching critical mass. Jordan