[net.news] gatewaying USENET groups with ARPANET mailing lists

jim (04/14/83)

[ I am moving this discussion, since it doesn't really belong in
  net.news.group. ]

On the problem of replying to net news:

I gathered together from my uucp log file a list of addresses for all
mail passing through uw-beaver for the last 30 hours, not including
mail originating here.  There were 59 messages, of which 17 were going
more than one hop away.  Of these 17, 8 had less than optimal paths,
two had very bad paths (7 and 6 hops where 2 and 1 would have done),
and one had a better path than our routing tables.  The other six had
paths different from what our routing table would use, but it was not
clear whether they were better or worse.

I have considered fixing our uucp mailer to redirect mail to the last
machine in the path that our routing tables know about.  For example,
mail addressed to

	cornell!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxt!4341shn

would be redirected to

	allegra!houxt!4341shn

Has anyone actually implemented anything like this?  Can you think of
any problems with this scheme?  It makes "bounce tests" impractical,
and puts a large burden on the system administrator to keep the routing
tables up to date, but in some cases it would greatly improve message
paths.

smb (04/15/83)

There are serious problems with attempting optimal routing of netmail
passing through.  For one thing, loops are possible if more than one
node does this.  (I route all my long-distance calls to you; you route
them right back to me....  It isn't clear to me whether or not such
loops can occur if everyone uses the same routing tables.)  For another,
loop tests won't work properly.  Finally, deliberate attempts to route
around a node known to be bad will fail if your routing tables think
it's working.

		--Steve